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Racism in the stands at The Liberty 11:52 - Dec 23 with 15939 viewsJackfath

I'd like to think the people of PS would stand up and be counted if they heard anyone spouting racist bile towards any players/supporters.

Let's make sure we stamp this out by telling those who decide to use football to spread their hate, we aren't tolerating it and they're not welcome. Get them kicked out/arrested.

Who's with me?

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 15:50 - Dec 23 with 2077 viewsshandyjack

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 14:29 - Dec 23 by sg1912

That’s the problem, how can some racism be deemed lesser?


singing anti welsh songs isn't racist, and it's no different to us singing anti english songs.

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 16:33 - Dec 23 with 2023 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 13:09 - Dec 23 by shandyjack

please tell me you are not trying to compare the two here.


When is racism not racism?
Or xenophobia not xenophobia?
When it is accepted as normal by the side being abused and then everybody else and it becomes the norm.
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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 16:36 - Dec 23 with 2019 viewstheloneranger

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 15:50 - Dec 23 by shandyjack

singing anti welsh songs isn't racist, and it's no different to us singing anti english songs.


This Welsh court would disagree ... 😇


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2236911/Welsh-rugby-fan-Phillip-Pritcha

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 16:44 - Dec 23 with 2004 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Personally I don't think it can ever be stopped as humans are "tribal" let alone racist and always will be.
But just because you don't like someone there is no need to vocalise it.
One major problem is drink lowering inhibitions and civility bringing out the worst in people.
The other problem that is no longer talked about is excessive male pheromones in the atmosphere when there are large groups of excited men.
I don't know what happened to those studies.
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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 17:53 - Dec 23 with 1964 viewsbuilthjack

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 13:50 - Dec 23 by Darran

There a certain times where people make racism worse.
One example I’ll give you is the edited video from the Tory party conference a few months ago where Johnson refused to shake hands with three black fellas.
It doesn’t help the fight at all in my opinion.


But Johnson is a massive racist. It ok though, it's funny old Boris.

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:13 - Dec 23 with 1952 viewsDarran

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 17:53 - Dec 23 by builthjack

But Johnson is a massive racist. It ok though, it's funny old Boris.


Yes but you’re missing the point but that’s nothing new.

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:19 - Dec 23 with 1936 viewsNeath_Jack

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 16:44 - Dec 23 by A_Fans_Dad

Personally I don't think it can ever be stopped as humans are "tribal" let alone racist and always will be.
But just because you don't like someone there is no need to vocalise it.
One major problem is drink lowering inhibitions and civility bringing out the worst in people.
The other problem that is no longer talked about is excessive male pheromones in the atmosphere when there are large groups of excited men.
I don't know what happened to those studies.


Why doesn't it happen in rugby or cricket, boxing etc?

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:20 - Dec 23 with 1936 viewsSwanjaxs

The pond life that still think making monkey noises at football grounds are being brought to book make no mistake.

Same goes for homophobic references.

Your days are numbered.

Think on morons.

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:21 - Dec 23 with 1928 viewsjack247

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 16:33 - Dec 23 by A_Fans_Dad

When is racism not racism?
Or xenophobia not xenophobia?
When it is accepted as normal by the side being abused and then everybody else and it becomes the norm.


Racism is always racism, xenophobia is always xenophobia.

‘Always shit on the English side of the bridge’ etc are neither.

‘You black/English/Welsh......’ is a completely different matter.
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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:21 - Dec 23 with 1923 viewsLuther27

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:19 - Dec 23 by Neath_Jack

Why doesn't it happen in rugby or cricket, boxing etc?


Different audience Neath. Funny thing is some support more than the one sport, but keep certain attitudes for football. Perplexing.
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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:23 - Dec 23 with 1914 viewsHighjack

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 16:44 - Dec 23 by A_Fans_Dad

Personally I don't think it can ever be stopped as humans are "tribal" let alone racist and always will be.
But just because you don't like someone there is no need to vocalise it.
One major problem is drink lowering inhibitions and civility bringing out the worst in people.
The other problem that is no longer talked about is excessive male pheromones in the atmosphere when there are large groups of excited men.
I don't know what happened to those studies.


Yeah I do think we need a sense of perspective though. Every weekend hundreds of thousands of people go to matches up and down the country. The huge majority, probably 99.9% are decent, well behaved people who just want to watch a game of football and most matches pass off without incident with only a few arrests usually alcohol related.

We’ve had a couple of idiots in a 60000+ crowd and there’s talk of a big racism problem in football, and even talk of national inquiries. It’s a bit over the top.

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:31 - Dec 23 with 1867 viewsswancity

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:23 - Dec 23 by Highjack

Yeah I do think we need a sense of perspective though. Every weekend hundreds of thousands of people go to matches up and down the country. The huge majority, probably 99.9% are decent, well behaved people who just want to watch a game of football and most matches pass off without incident with only a few arrests usually alcohol related.

We’ve had a couple of idiots in a 60000+ crowd and there’s talk of a big racism problem in football, and even talk of national inquiries. It’s a bit over the top.


Precisely. One thick clown in a crowd of 60,000
and suddenly there’s a sense that it’s a big problem in football. It’s not. Not any more it’s not. What happened is wrong and hopefully the culprit will be dealt with severely but the over reaction has been out of proportion to what was an isolated incident in that game.

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:37 - Dec 23 with 1848 viewsJackfath

1 in 60,000 is too much. It is a problem.

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:45 - Dec 23 with 1824 viewsswancity

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:37 - Dec 23 by Jackfath

1 in 60,000 is too much. It is a problem.


With continued strict punishment, raising of awareness and now government involvement these incidents will hopefully continue to reduce even further. Agree that one incident is one too many but let’s put it into some sort of perspective. It was a real “problem” in football in the 1970s. Things have improved considerably and long may that continue.

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:52 - Dec 23 with 1789 viewslonglostjack

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 16:44 - Dec 23 by A_Fans_Dad

Personally I don't think it can ever be stopped as humans are "tribal" let alone racist and always will be.
But just because you don't like someone there is no need to vocalise it.
One major problem is drink lowering inhibitions and civility bringing out the worst in people.
The other problem that is no longer talked about is excessive male pheromones in the atmosphere when there are large groups of excited men.
I don't know what happened to those studies.


All credit to the North East for not rising to Sterling’s provocation in the FA Cup last year. Would have been all too easy for a couple of idiots to kick off with some racist shit. A cheat is a cheat.

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 19:05 - Dec 23 with 1718 viewsDarran

It’s quite interesting to see the lefties on twitter today bringing up Johnson’s letter box comment after the government vowed to do something about it.
They all seem to have missed Gary Neville having a go a Corbyn for it too.

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 19:10 - Dec 23 with 1685 viewstaffpunk

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:19 - Dec 23 by Neath_Jack

Why doesn't it happen in rugby or cricket, boxing etc?


It does happen, especially in Rugby.

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 19:12 - Dec 23 with 1679 viewsNeath_Jack

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:31 - Dec 23 by swancity

Precisely. One thick clown in a crowd of 60,000
and suddenly there’s a sense that it’s a big problem in football. It’s not. Not any more it’s not. What happened is wrong and hopefully the culprit will be dealt with severely but the over reaction has been out of proportion to what was an isolated incident in that game.


Keep burying your head in the sand butt.

Don't work for the FA by any chance?

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 19:12 - Dec 23 with 1678 viewstaffpunk

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 14:41 - Dec 23 by controversial_jack

I can't remember the last time I heard any racist comments at a Swans match.It's a non issue at our club


Obviously not, Badlands has confirmed it still sadly goes on regularly.

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 19:18 - Dec 23 with 1642 viewsCatullus

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 19:10 - Dec 23 by taffpunk

It does happen, especially in Rugby.


Yep,

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/wales-first-black-rugby-ico

And boxing,

https://tss.ib.tv/boxing/featured-boxing-articles-boxing-news-videos-rankings-an

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 19:21 - Dec 23 with 1636 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 18:23 - Dec 23 by Highjack

Yeah I do think we need a sense of perspective though. Every weekend hundreds of thousands of people go to matches up and down the country. The huge majority, probably 99.9% are decent, well behaved people who just want to watch a game of football and most matches pass off without incident with only a few arrests usually alcohol related.

We’ve had a couple of idiots in a 60000+ crowd and there’s talk of a big racism problem in football, and even talk of national inquiries. It’s a bit over the top.


I agree, I think the %age is probably nearer 99.99%, just a few individuals who get carried away and think they are clever.
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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 19:28 - Dec 23 with 1616 viewsCatullus

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 19:21 - Dec 23 by A_Fans_Dad

I agree, I think the %age is probably nearer 99.99%, just a few individuals who get carried away and think they are clever.


Some clubs have a bigger problem than others and some of them aren't just being clever, they are racist.
Many of them though are probably just drunk and stupid. Not that casual racism because of alcohol is ok.

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 19:36 - Dec 23 with 1587 viewsKilkennyjack

Never heard it at the Liberty.

Heard it plenty at the Vetch 🤷‍♂️.

Maybe things are getting better ..?

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 19:39 - Dec 23 with 1557 viewsDarran

Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 19:36 - Dec 23 by Kilkennyjack

Never heard it at the Liberty.

Heard it plenty at the Vetch 🤷‍♂️.

Maybe things are getting better ..?


I’ve never heard a racist shout at the Liberty from a Swans fan either and I haven’t heard one from a Swans fan at an away game for years either.

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Racism in the stands at The Liberty on 19:41 - Dec 23 with 1546 viewsmonmouth

I've never heard any racism around me. Are we talking about those West Stand hooligans and their hip flasks full of raw polish vodka again? Rowdy bastards.

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