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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 22:14 - Dec 12 by Shun
Pretty stunned at those exit polls.
Not sure why. It's slightly bigger than I predicted this morning but not by a huge amount. At no point have I thought it was going to be anything other than a Tory majority.
A heartbreaking exit poll but not a majorly surprising one to me
If I hadn't seen such riches, I could live with being poor
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 23:33 - Dec 12 with 2160 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 23:03 - Dec 12 by ChaffRAFC
Not sure why. It's slightly bigger than I predicted this morning but not by a huge amount. At no point have I thought it was going to be anything other than a Tory majority.
A heartbreaking exit poll but not a majorly surprising one to me
I always expected a Tory majority. For them to actually increase their majority would be the stunning thing.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 00:42 - Dec 13 with 2106 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 00:42 - Dec 13 by sweetcorn
The UK confirmed as selfish boot-lickers. Here’s to 5 more years of austerity.
Seeing Tory win benefit cess-pool seats gave me a good laugh tbf.
When the 'leader' of the opposition has no position on Brexit (did he not look at how the voters in labour constituencies voted in the referendum?) I expected nothing else.
Any Labour leader who manages to lose workington, darlington, . . . . has to go . . he is clearly out of touch with voters.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 05:18 - Dec 13 with 1977 views
Well my conscience is clear - I didn't vote to make poor people poorer. Looks like they did that all on their own. Colin Lambert has a lot to answer for in Monkey Town.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 07:46 - Dec 13 with 1882 views
Really surprised that McInnes lost her seat. Who would have thought that voting against the will of the majority of your constituents and hard left economics wouldn't be a vote winner?
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 07:56 - Dec 13 with 1855 views
ironically I make the popular right-wing vote 48% and the popular left-wing vote, you guessed it...52%. Who says we aren't a democracy! We now have a majority right wing England and every other part of the Union not (even N.I.).
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 07:09 - Dec 13 by mingthemerciless
Well my conscience is clear - I didn't vote to make poor people poorer. Looks like they did that all on their own. Colin Lambert has a lot to answer for in Monkey Town.
Me too, and The only good thing is that Johnson and co, now completely own the shitshow that will follow as it becomes apparent he cannot deliver his promises.
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 08:58 - Dec 13 by rochdaleriddler
Me too, and The only good thing is that Johnson and co, now completely own the shitshow that will follow as it becomes apparent he cannot deliver his promises.
Only good thing is hopefully I dont have to read or see any more political crap on this fourm for 5 years
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 05:18 - Dec 13 by D_Alien
Dennis Skinner, the "Beast of Bolsover", unseated after nearly 50 years in one of the old mining seats - by a Tory...
I'm off to bed now. Think i might have to re-check some of these results when i wake up
This one is sad because he did represent his people. They voted to leave and he voted leave in votes. He's been let down by by the bubble living idiots who need to look beyond their circle. It was interesting to hear Ash Sarkar (the literal communist) going down the Trump avenue of fake news. The entire labour party is in a mess and this was all predictable. A landslide (which it pretty much is) was obvious to anyone who looked beyond social media. Both my parents and my grandad who'd voted Labour his entire life voted conservative. Will there been a change? No. The idiots will double down. Just like in the US where Trump will win a second term, people who believe they know better will never accept that they may not be 100% right. I write this as a paid member of the labour party. I voted labour yesterday but my MP lost his seat. A seat that should have been very safe, just like in Heywood, Castleton & Middleton.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 09:33 - Dec 13 with 1696 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 09:23 - Dec 13 by KenBoon
This one is sad because he did represent his people. They voted to leave and he voted leave in votes. He's been let down by by the bubble living idiots who need to look beyond their circle. It was interesting to hear Ash Sarkar (the literal communist) going down the Trump avenue of fake news. The entire labour party is in a mess and this was all predictable. A landslide (which it pretty much is) was obvious to anyone who looked beyond social media. Both my parents and my grandad who'd voted Labour his entire life voted conservative. Will there been a change? No. The idiots will double down. Just like in the US where Trump will win a second term, people who believe they know better will never accept that they may not be 100% right. I write this as a paid member of the labour party. I voted labour yesterday but my MP lost his seat. A seat that should have been very safe, just like in Heywood, Castleton & Middleton.
were their votes 'lent' or will they become permanent Tory voters? What should Labour do now - should they take up the views of the largely socially & fiscally conservative working class, now there are no Unionised mass industries to challenge that conservatism, become a centrist party competing with Johnson & the LibDems or accept they're a protest party only?
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 08:58 - Dec 13 by rochdaleriddler
Me too, and The only good thing is that Johnson and co, now completely own the shitshow that will follow as it becomes apparent he cannot deliver his promises.
I hope Brexit is a roaring success and the predictions from some quarters that we’ll be better off ring true. My gut feel is it’ll be a load of shite but I’d rather be proven wrong than see the country get worse just for the sake of saying “I told you so”.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 09:45 - Dec 13 with 1656 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 09:33 - Dec 13 by tony_roch975
were their votes 'lent' or will they become permanent Tory voters? What should Labour do now - should they take up the views of the largely socially & fiscally conservative working class, now there are no Unionised mass industries to challenge that conservatism, become a centrist party competing with Johnson & the LibDems or accept they're a protest party only?
I’d say they need to first of all get a leader who has charisma and appears like they can be trusted. I personally liked Corbyn, but he just has too much baggage for the vultures to go at for him to ever realistically be elected.
I’d say a move more centrally but not completely. Radical socialism hasn’t worked, but a lighter version may be the ticket, especially if the country is on its knees following the effects of brexit.
Rocky times lie ahead i’d Imagine and Boris can pretty much do as he pleases now.
Leader of the little gang of immature cretins.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 09:49 - Dec 13 with 1638 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 09:23 - Dec 13 by KenBoon
This one is sad because he did represent his people. They voted to leave and he voted leave in votes. He's been let down by by the bubble living idiots who need to look beyond their circle. It was interesting to hear Ash Sarkar (the literal communist) going down the Trump avenue of fake news. The entire labour party is in a mess and this was all predictable. A landslide (which it pretty much is) was obvious to anyone who looked beyond social media. Both my parents and my grandad who'd voted Labour his entire life voted conservative. Will there been a change? No. The idiots will double down. Just like in the US where Trump will win a second term, people who believe they know better will never accept that they may not be 100% right. I write this as a paid member of the labour party. I voted labour yesterday but my MP lost his seat. A seat that should have been very safe, just like in Heywood, Castleton & Middleton.
I agree about Skinner, and hope it was clear my post wasn't meant in any other way than as a "shakes head in amazement" moment. I don't agree with his politics but i respect his integrity and hard work in representing an area where the demise of old industry was bound to create economic and social problems. (And just as an aside, the outrage at the long-term burning of fossil fuels must leave young people confused about why the pit villages were ever glorified. That's another argument though, since they helped create the modern world and should always be given respect for that.)
But for those communities to reject the solutions offered by Labour in this election is quite astounding. BJ - if he has any brains at all - will act in a way which helps all our communities. For all our sakes, and cynicism aside, i wish him well
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 09:45 - Dec 13 by sweetcorn
I’d say they need to first of all get a leader who has charisma and appears like they can be trusted. I personally liked Corbyn, but he just has too much baggage for the vultures to go at for him to ever realistically be elected.
I’d say a move more centrally but not completely. Radical socialism hasn’t worked, but a lighter version may be the ticket, especially if the country is on its knees following the effects of brexit.
Rocky times lie ahead i’d Imagine and Boris can pretty much do as he pleases now.
I’d imagine someone like Keir Starmer will end up leader. I think Dan Jarvis if he was still an MP would be a good leader as he’d have appeal in the more “traditional” northern labour seats.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 10:06 - Dec 13 with 1603 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 09:52 - Dec 13 by Ancoats_Blue
I’d imagine someone like Keir Starmer will end up leader. I think Dan Jarvis if he was still an MP would be a good leader as he’d have appeal in the more “traditional” northern labour seats.
Keir Starmer played a big role in this loss, he’s a staunch remainer and played a role to steering the party in the catastrophic attempt to play both sides by winning remain seats and keeping hold of their strong holds. Wouldn’t want him as leader personally.
Seeing an impassioned Jess Phillips after the exit poll on channel 4 did her no harm in winning the vote of those with empathy for those less fortunate than themselves. Also seems to be quite grounded about where labour lie and the need for reform (this will probably put off union leaders though tbf, as they still think radical left is the way to go after listening to the momentum chair on bbc who insisted brexit was the sole reason for such a resounding defeat) Boris also see’s her as a threat, she’d get my vote for the party leadership.
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Leader of the little gang of immature cretins.
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Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 10:07 - Dec 13 with 1598 views
Is Boris Johnson a coward? on 09:52 - Dec 13 by Ancoats_Blue
I’d imagine someone like Keir Starmer will end up leader. I think Dan Jarvis if he was still an MP would be a good leader as he’d have appeal in the more “traditional” northern labour seats.
He is still an MP - so a more centrist Labour Party? If so why not go the whole hog and amalgamate with the LibDems?
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