| swans 22:02 - Oct 22 with 4216 views | sideline |
swansea afc being stripped bare,dc united flying now,since the yanks takeover of swansea afc,coincidence??? dont think so. |  | | |  |
| swans on 22:15 - Oct 22 with 4158 views | cmajack |
While I'm not saying the owners have put any of their own money into the club, the money we generated from the sale of siggy was absolutely wasted by jenkins. When you think what we paid for Bony, Baston, Clucas, Mesa , Andre ayew and the wages for Sanches we really should have carried on being an established premier league club. They bought Rooney and he has literally transformed their fortunes. Not one of those players i have listed contributed anything to the cause for the swans last season. | | | |
| swans on 00:44 - Oct 23 with 4014 views | Flashberryjack |
| swans on 22:15 - Oct 22 by cmajack |
While I'm not saying the owners have put any of their own money into the club, the money we generated from the sale of siggy was absolutely wasted by jenkins. When you think what we paid for Bony, Baston, Clucas, Mesa , Andre ayew and the wages for Sanches we really should have carried on being an established premier league club. They bought Rooney and he has literally transformed their fortunes. Not one of those players i have listed contributed anything to the cause for the swans last season. |
When you say wasted, it may have been for the club, but maybe not for others, someone did well out of those deals. |  |
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| swans on 09:19 - Oct 23 with 3883 views | andypitt56 |
Really?? this again..... The owners are not taking money out of the club and sending it to DC!
they would not be allowed to do that, and even if they were found to be doing that they would be in serious trouble.
As stated above the reason we are in the situation is because they spent a lot of money on absolute dross!! Baston 15m, Mesa 15m, Bony 12m, Ayew 18m, clucas 15m....the list goes on. | | | |
| swans on 09:22 - Oct 23 with 3871 views | angryjack |
| swans on 09:19 - Oct 23 by andypitt56 |
Really?? this again..... The owners are not taking money out of the club and sending it to DC!
they would not be allowed to do that, and even if they were found to be doing that they would be in serious trouble.
As stated above the reason we are in the situation is because they spent a lot of money on absolute dross!! Baston 15m, Mesa 15m, Bony 12m, Ayew 18m, clucas 15m....the list goes on. |
Like a previous post somebody had backhanders with the agents | | | |
| swans on 09:33 - Oct 23 with 3852 views | andypitt56 |
| swans on 09:22 - Oct 23 by angryjack |
Like a previous post somebody had backhanders with the agents |
Thats what you are hoping happened, why cant you just accept that the club wasted money on crap. There doesnt have to be anything going on behind the scenes. We signed Poor players on big money its as simple as that. IMO They owners were idiots, there is no evidence that they have taken money out of the club for their own gain. They would have already put the club up for sale if that were the case. The fact is, the only way the owners can make money is by selling the club for more than they bought it for, they only way to do that is to improve the infrastructure... | | | |
| swans on 10:11 - Oct 23 with 3789 views | LeonWasGod |
Vicious bastards. Especially if they're guarding a nest. |  | | |
| swans on 10:20 - Oct 23 with 3773 views | Loyal |
| swans on 09:19 - Oct 23 by andypitt56 |
Really?? this again..... The owners are not taking money out of the club and sending it to DC!
they would not be allowed to do that, and even if they were found to be doing that they would be in serious trouble.
As stated above the reason we are in the situation is because they spent a lot of money on absolute dross!! Baston 15m, Mesa 15m, Bony 12m, Ayew 18m, clucas 15m....the list goes on. |
If they wanted to they could. |  |
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| swans on 10:37 - Oct 23 with 3744 views | JJJack |
| swans on 09:19 - Oct 23 by andypitt56 |
Really?? this again..... The owners are not taking money out of the club and sending it to DC!
they would not be allowed to do that, and even if they were found to be doing that they would be in serious trouble.
As stated above the reason we are in the situation is because they spent a lot of money on absolute dross!! Baston 15m, Mesa 15m, Bony 12m, Ayew 18m, clucas 15m....the list goes on. |
I don't disagree with your points on wasting money on poor players. Undoubtedly that's the predominant reason for our demise.
However, you are completely wrong to say our owners would not be allowed to/be in serious trouble for effectively transferring funds between 2 clubs they own. Of course they could bloody do this if they want they own the clubs!! |  | | |
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| swans on 10:40 - Oct 23 with 3738 views | Dr_Winston |
| swans on 10:37 - Oct 23 by JJJack |
I don't disagree with your points on wasting money on poor players. Undoubtedly that's the predominant reason for our demise.
However, you are completely wrong to say our owners would not be allowed to/be in serious trouble for effectively transferring funds between 2 clubs they own. Of course they could bloody do this if they want they own the clubs!! |
They don't own them entirely.
If they were using SCFC money to fund DCU without compensating other SCFC shareholders (ie The Trust) I believe that would be illegal. |  |
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| swans on 10:44 - Oct 23 with 3728 views | JJJack |
| swans on 09:33 - Oct 23 by andypitt56 |
Thats what you are hoping happened, why cant you just accept that the club wasted money on crap. There doesnt have to be anything going on behind the scenes. We signed Poor players on big money its as simple as that. IMO They owners were idiots, there is no evidence that they have taken money out of the club for their own gain. They would have already put the club up for sale if that were the case. The fact is, the only way the owners can make money is by selling the club for more than they bought it for, they only way to do that is to improve the infrastructure... |
Mate, please stop peddling this rubbish . Because its completely untrue. Now we've been relegated its far less lucrative but of course owners can have taken money out of clubs ( and other businesses) ad infinitum. They're just clever about it and unless they're PLCs, they do NOT need to declare how they do this. I don't know why you can't see this.
Not that I'm saying they have done this - on balance I think -probably they haven't - but they most certainly could. | | | |
| swans on 10:46 - Oct 23 with 3722 views | omarjack |
There are new posters who didn't complain yet about the obvious to most of us. Personally, I gave up on the state of our club a while ago.
Mr. Sideline, The time will come when you'll give up as well. It's like beating a dead horse, Nothing will change until the owners are gone for good.
Let's try and enjoy the football under Potter and the youngsters, that's all we have left. |  |
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| swans on 13:17 - Oct 23 with 3536 views | Fireboy2 |
| swans on 09:33 - Oct 23 by andypitt56 |
Thats what you are hoping happened, why cant you just accept that the club wasted money on crap. There doesnt have to be anything going on behind the scenes. We signed Poor players on big money its as simple as that. IMO They owners were idiots, there is no evidence that they have taken money out of the club for their own gain. They would have already put the club up for sale if that were the case. The fact is, the only way the owners can make money is by selling the club for more than they bought it for, they only way to do that is to improve the infrastructure... |
You are saying that our capitalist hedge fund businessmen are idiots? |  | | |
| swans on 14:08 - Oct 23 with 3458 views | andypitt56 |
| swans on 13:17 - Oct 23 by Fireboy2 |
You are saying that our capitalist hedge fund businessmen are idiots? |
I was talking about the players and money they have invested in, yes they are idiots, or at best they have been advised extremely poorly which is quite obvious. Just seems to be the same thing posted all the time, We massively overspent and this season we have to bare the consequences. I think potter is doing a great job with the tools at his disposal. | | | |
| swans on 15:15 - Oct 23 with 3373 views | Fireboy2 |
| swans on 14:08 - Oct 23 by andypitt56 |
I was talking about the players and money they have invested in, yes they are idiots, or at best they have been advised extremely poorly which is quite obvious. Just seems to be the same thing posted all the time, We massively overspent and this season we have to bare the consequences. I think potter is doing a great job with the tools at his disposal. |
Its obvious that they were badly advised re signings and they thought it would be easy to stay in the PL with PL money but now all thats gone they have been very very cut throat when it comes to cutting costs,some like me say too cut throat and it wouldnt surprise me in the least if they were cleverly siphoning funds off to the 'investors' | | | |
| swans on 15:37 - Oct 23 with 3337 views | Flashberryjack |
| swans on 15:15 - Oct 23 by Fireboy2 |
Its obvious that they were badly advised re signings and they thought it would be easy to stay in the PL with PL money but now all thats gone they have been very very cut throat when it comes to cutting costs,some like me say too cut throat and it wouldnt surprise me in the least if they were cleverly siphoning funds off to the 'investors' |
When it comes to lots of money....people become very adept at making it disappear (legally)
whether that be by smoke and mirror accounting, or some other ingenious way, but it does happen you know. | |
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| swans on 16:06 - Oct 23 with 3299 views | jasper_T |
| swans on 15:37 - Oct 23 by Flashberryjack |
When it comes to lots of money....people become very adept at making it disappear (legally)
whether that be by smoke and mirror accounting, or some other ingenious way, but it does happen you know. |
What money, though? Swansea City is set to make massive losses with or without ferreting it out the back door, and its failure will cost them way more than any success at DC United might gain in the land of constant playoffs and zero relegation. | | | |
| swans on 16:48 - Oct 23 with 3243 views | Flashberryjack |
| swans on 16:06 - Oct 23 by jasper_T |
What money, though? Swansea City is set to make massive losses with or without ferreting it out the back door, and its failure will cost them way more than any success at DC United might gain in the land of constant playoffs and zero relegation. |
Of course, there never was any money for them to ferret away in the first place, was there ?
The sell out directors were all flat broke until they sold their shares, poor f*ckers. | |
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| swans on 16:55 - Oct 23 with 3220 views | t1000 |
| swans on 09:19 - Oct 23 by andypitt56 |
Really?? this again..... The owners are not taking money out of the club and sending it to DC!
they would not be allowed to do that, and even if they were found to be doing that they would be in serious trouble.
As stated above the reason we are in the situation is because they spent a lot of money on absolute dross!! Baston 15m, Mesa 15m, Bony 12m, Ayew 18m, clucas 15m....the list goes on. |
Of course they sending it to dc . Even other people in media have noticed now . They compared us to other clubs spending and asked the question where has the money gone . It was before a TV game about a month ago . Thought we would be financially safe for decades after Prem league obvs not . | | | |
| swans on 17:17 - Oct 23 with 3174 views | jasper_T |
| swans on 16:55 - Oct 23 by t1000 |
Of course they sending it to dc . Even other people in media have noticed now . They compared us to other clubs spending and asked the question where has the money gone . It was before a TV game about a month ago . Thought we would be financially safe for decades after Prem league obvs not . |
Since when have tv pundits had a clue about anything to do with us? | | | |
| swans on 17:21 - Oct 23 with 3162 views | t1000 |
| swans on 17:17 - Oct 23 by jasper_T |
Since when have tv pundits had a clue about anything to do with us? |
They have more of an idea than half the people on here id say | | | |
| swans on 17:27 - Oct 23 with 3153 views | waynekerr55 |
| swans on 22:15 - Oct 22 by cmajack |
While I'm not saying the owners have put any of their own money into the club, the money we generated from the sale of siggy was absolutely wasted by jenkins. When you think what we paid for Bony, Baston, Clucas, Mesa , Andre ayew and the wages for Sanches we really should have carried on being an established premier league club. They bought Rooney and he has literally transformed their fortunes. Not one of those players i have listed contributed anything to the cause for the swans last season. |
And to think fans are accused of "attacking the club" for having the temerity to question why the main protagonist who spunked a kings ransom on dross. Nobody in their right mind could say that he wasn't great for us but he's a busted flush now. |  |
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| swans on 17:31 - Oct 23 with 3140 views | jasper_T |
| swans on 17:21 - Oct 23 by t1000 |
They have more of an idea than half the people on here id say |
If someone on TV said they thought we would be financially secure for decades after relegation then they're a fcking idiot. Anyone with a basic knowledge of the economic differences between the Premier League and the Championship could tell you that. | | | |
| swans on 18:27 - Oct 23 with 3081 views | t1000 |
| swans on 17:31 - Oct 23 by jasper_T |
If someone on TV said they thought we would be financially secure for decades after relegation then they're a fcking idiot. Anyone with a basic knowledge of the economic differences between the Premier League and the Championship could tell you that. |
There a difference between having money and going in to administration . Last season swans in prem league it’s been few months but now we have no money . Mr blobby could tell u that | | | |
| swans on 18:49 - Oct 23 with 3043 views | jasper_T |
| swans on 18:27 - Oct 23 by t1000 |
There a difference between having money and going in to administration . Last season swans in prem league it’s been few months but now we have no money . Mr blobby could tell u that |
We're not going into admin. It's not the case that we "have no money". There is no massive existing debt that needs servicing. We've sold players because our hundred million a year wage bill needed cutting to fit the division we're now in, where the average wage spend is £20-30m.
We could have banked 20% of our turnover every Prem season and still would have had to cut costs massively (unless we were gambling on an instant return. Let's see how that works out for Stoke). You don't have to invent conspiracies where money is being stolen, the maths are pretty simple. | | | |
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