| Spurs hospitality on 16:51 - Feb 9 with 2130 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Spurs hospitality on 16:27 - Feb 9 by deeplishblue |
Can't believe that anybody would spit their dummy because they can't get a pint in the Radcliffe. How small minded of them. |
No dummy being spat, a lot of people on here don't put money into the club bars and already choose to drink elsewhere , despite the beer being shite I use them, pre, during and sometimes post match. |  |
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| Spurs hospitality on 17:00 - Feb 9 with 2103 views | ColDale |
| Spurs hospitality on 15:38 - Feb 9 by Bobbyjoe |
It would have been perfectly reasonable to up the prices for such a game; I don't think Dale fans would have objected to paying a few quid more. An extra fiver on 10,000 tickets would be reasonable and lucrative. That would be honest and up front. But this way you don't make very much money, and you leave yourself open to accusations of profiteering. Trust me, it won't look good in a headline, with matching photographs of the *delicious" meal! |
Can you imagine the reaction if entrance prices had risen, and corporate hospitality remained the same price?
I'm guessing, the club have looked to this given the speed in which the upstairs corporate hospitality was sold out, they have looked at maximising money elsewhere. Given this will (not exclusively) be aimed at companies with a few more quid to stick down on the company credit card, then its a good thing. The Ratcliffe is usually aimed at away supporters, rather than home fans who predominantly go in the Dale Bar.
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| Spurs hospitality on 17:01 - Feb 9 with 2098 views | JimmyRustler |
| Spurs hospitality on 16:51 - Feb 9 by rochdaleriddler |
No dummy being spat, a lot of people on here don't put money into the club bars and already choose to drink elsewhere , despite the beer being shite I use them, pre, during and sometimes post match. |
With the £846 you'll save from not buying three or four extortionate pints in the Ratcliffe, you could have purchased a hospitality package...hehe |  | | |
| Spurs hospitality on 17:08 - Feb 9 with 2068 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Spurs hospitality on 17:01 - Feb 9 by JimmyRustler |
With the £846 you'll save from not buying three or four extortionate pints in the Ratcliffe, you could have purchased a hospitality package...hehe |
My dummy is back in, be good if club explained bar options for this game. I'll take an omeprazole and risk an MPA | |
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| Spurs hospitality on 17:09 - Feb 9 with 2069 views | 442Dale |
| Spurs hospitality on 17:00 - Feb 9 by ColDale |
Can you imagine the reaction if entrance prices had risen, and corporate hospitality remained the same price?
I'm guessing, the club have looked to this given the speed in which the upstairs corporate hospitality was sold out, they have looked at maximising money elsewhere. Given this will (not exclusively) be aimed at companies with a few more quid to stick down on the company credit card, then its a good thing. The Ratcliffe is usually aimed at away supporters, rather than home fans who predominantly go in the Dale Bar.
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There is the issue around the amount of seats which will now be unavailable to the regular punter who wants to go in the main stand.
Nobody disputes why the club are doing it, it’s weighing up the ability to maximise profit v other factors. And then communicating it. |  |
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| Spurs hospitality on 18:09 - Feb 9 with 1989 views | dingdangblue |
| Spurs hospitality on 17:09 - Feb 9 by 442Dale |
There is the issue around the amount of seats which will now be unavailable to the regular punter who wants to go in the main stand.
Nobody disputes why the club are doing it, it’s weighing up the ability to maximise profit v other factors. And then communicating it. |
Surely the regular punter - this season especially with the exceptional prices - is a season ticket holder? Aren't their seats reserved in the main stand? I can't see an issue. |  |
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| Spurs hospitality on 18:19 - Feb 9 with 1962 views | DaleiLama |
| Spurs hospitality on 18:09 - Feb 9 by dingdangblue |
Surely the regular punter - this season especially with the exceptional prices - is a season ticket holder? Aren't their seats reserved in the main stand? I can't see an issue. |
And even if a regular didn't have a ST, surely most would have gone to the reduced price cup replay knowing they have would priority for a potential Spurs tie? |  |
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| Spurs hospitality on 18:23 - Feb 9 with 1952 views | scooby |
Have you got your ticket? Why do you care about other seats being available then? Surely the key fact is the seats are being sold, and at an inflated price that someone is will to pay... There are many other seats / areas in the ground.
You are always grumble about communications from the club, get over it. Did you tell your Mrs everything every day? No, you chose to share what you wanted her or need her to know.
Too many people on board feel the club owe them the world because you buy a ticket / have a season ticket, they dont. You dont buy an iPhone and expect Apple to email you personally, or install Windows for Microsoft to hug you when you need it. |  | | |
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| Spurs hospitality on 18:52 - Feb 9 with 1892 views | 442Dale |
| Spurs hospitality on 18:19 - Feb 9 by DaleiLama |
And even if a regular didn't have a ST, surely most would have gone to the reduced price cup replay knowing they have would priority for a potential Spurs tie? |
Aye, and the thought process was around how many of those who went to the Millwall game in the main stand who aren’t ST holders and whether there would be enough seats left in there now. It was questions thinking out loud. Simply that. Does it affect me? Nope. Am I right or wrong to think about it? Don’t know or care. If the maths have been done, and everyone’s happy, great. If not, can a process be improved? | |
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| Spurs hospitality on 18:55 - Feb 9 with 1881 views | Dalenet |
For years the writers on this Board, including me, have been critical of the club for not optimising the commercial benefits of bigger games. So now they have some people are in arms.
Everybody with a season ticket is guaranteed their seat. Everybody with a Millwall ticket is guaranteed entry somewhere in the ground.
Anybody that thinks you can get a Nutters style meal for £25 is just deluded. The club put on a good quality meal at all games (thanks to the Flying Horse) and with hosting, access to drinks and refreshments at half time, and access to the bar at the end of the game, this price is what some clubs in our league charge for a normal hospitality ticket - never mind a big game.
And if some of these ticket holders are local firms that want to come back in the future that would be great. Our current hospitality suite is rarely sold out now so lets hope we can get some people on board for the future.
For the next round  I would like us to offer £300 packages with a room at Norton Grange, meal at hotel and limo service to the ground with heated seats. It is the future | | | |
| Spurs hospitality on 19:00 - Feb 9 with 1868 views | 442Dale |
| Spurs hospitality on 18:55 - Feb 9 by Dalenet |
For years the writers on this Board, including me, have been critical of the club for not optimising the commercial benefits of bigger games. So now they have some people are in arms.
Everybody with a season ticket is guaranteed their seat. Everybody with a Millwall ticket is guaranteed entry somewhere in the ground.
Anybody that thinks you can get a Nutters style meal for £25 is just deluded. The club put on a good quality meal at all games (thanks to the Flying Horse) and with hosting, access to drinks and refreshments at half time, and access to the bar at the end of the game, this price is what some clubs in our league charge for a normal hospitality ticket - never mind a big game.
And if some of these ticket holders are local firms that want to come back in the future that would be great. Our current hospitality suite is rarely sold out now so lets hope we can get some people on board for the future.
For the next round I would like us to offer £300 packages with a room at Norton Grange, meal at hotel and limo service to the ground with heated seats. It is the future |
Certainly not up in arms here! The price thing is up to market forces, which others have rightly posted, it was more logistical plans as mentioned. | |
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| Spurs hospitality on 19:12 - Feb 9 with 1840 views | DaleiLama |
| Spurs hospitality on 18:52 - Feb 9 by 442Dale |
Aye, and the thought process was around how many of those who went to the Millwall game in the main stand who aren’t ST holders and whether there would be enough seats left in there now. It was questions thinking out loud. Simply that. Does it affect me? Nope. Am I right or wrong to think about it? Don’t know or care. If the maths have been done, and everyone’s happy, great. If not, can a process be improved? |
Agree - there are so many processes that can be improved, but .............. | |
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| Spurs hospitality on 19:54 - Feb 9 with 1769 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Spurs hospitality on 17:00 - Feb 9 by ColDale |
Can you imagine the reaction if entrance prices had risen, and corporate hospitality remained the same price?
I'm guessing, the club have looked to this given the speed in which the upstairs corporate hospitality was sold out, they have looked at maximising money elsewhere. Given this will (not exclusively) be aimed at companies with a few more quid to stick down on the company credit card, then its a good thing. The Ratcliffe is usually aimed at away supporters, rather than home fans who predominantly go in the Dale Bar.
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To develop that point a bit Col, you have to admire the club for:
1) Striking while the iron is hot. There's a narrow window to get the bookings in and demand greater than supply.
2) Understanding that the revenue in the pre-match is going to be greater at £70+ per head than selling beer to a larger number of people. That's a lot of beer!
3) Attracting many floating businesses who see Spurs and think about visiting our club. Fitzo made the point about the number of floating fans at Wembley who didn't return. If just 5% of those businesses using the facilities come again, once for a league game it's been worth it for me.
The annoyance of not being able to get a beer pre-match on any scale (the Dale Bar will fill at 200 people?) will mean that some are unhappy but this is the case when you get a big crowd.
It's a shame the club can't erect in the car park near the Radcliffe the sort of thing that Slough did before the away game in the cup to sell beer pre-match; that might not work due to weather but it's another revenue opportunity.
Wholly supportive of the filling our boots for next weekend and I hope that we have some strategies on the turnstile to advertise future fixtures and give a voucher that gives money off for the next (few) home games to get some of that support back regularly. |  |
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| Spurs hospitality on 20:01 - Feb 9 with 1743 views | R17ALE |
I'd also add that had we been away, a similar package probably would have been around £200 per head. |  |
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| Spurs hospitality on 20:06 - Feb 9 with 1733 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Spurs hospitality on 17:00 - Feb 9 by ColDale |
Can you imagine the reaction if entrance prices had risen, and corporate hospitality remained the same price?
I'm guessing, the club have looked to this given the speed in which the upstairs corporate hospitality was sold out, they have looked at maximising money elsewhere. Given this will (not exclusively) be aimed at companies with a few more quid to stick down on the company credit card, then its a good thing. The Ratcliffe is usually aimed at away supporters, rather than home fans who predominantly go in the Dale Bar.
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We are talking about different things, I don't give a fook how much is charged for hospitality, the fact is no one really got a chance to buy it, as it was 'sold out' immediately, presumably to corporate sponsors. The Radcliffe arms bit hasn't occurred before and will displace some fans, every game has Dale fans in there. That is the issue, I don't see how you conflate that with the issue of match day prices , also aren't you a moderator ? | |
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| Spurs hospitality on 22:07 - Feb 9 with 1633 views | RAFCBLUE |
| Spurs hospitality on 20:06 - Feb 9 by rochdaleriddler |
We are talking about different things, I don't give a fook how much is charged for hospitality, the fact is no one really got a chance to buy it, as it was 'sold out' immediately, presumably to corporate sponsors. The Radcliffe arms bit hasn't occurred before and will displace some fans, every game has Dale fans in there. That is the issue, I don't see how you conflate that with the issue of match day prices , also aren't you a moderator ? |
People have had a chance to buy it - that's why the Main Stand piece is sold out.
You also make that statement without knowing what arrangements the club had in place already with existing sponsors. Imagine a contract where the club HAVE to offer a particular sponsor a certain amount of hospitality but the sponsor is under no obligation to take it.
For Spurs, EVERY sponsor will be at Spotland and take their contracted spaces and much more besides. It's THE home game of the last 50 years in terms of the stage of the competition, the opposition and what it brings into Spotland.
I think Col's point is that the club could have put prices up for fans and haven't but have maximised a corporate hospitality. Newport did both when they got Spurs in the last round.
I don't think most have a problem with it and if you want a drink, there are plenty of other options in the vicinity pre-match. | |
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| Spurs hospitality on 22:28 - Feb 9 with 1597 views | Bobbyjoe |
| Spurs hospitality on 18:55 - Feb 9 by Dalenet |
For years the writers on this Board, including me, have been critical of the club for not optimising the commercial benefits of bigger games. So now they have some people are in arms.
Everybody with a season ticket is guaranteed their seat. Everybody with a Millwall ticket is guaranteed entry somewhere in the ground.
Anybody that thinks you can get a Nutters style meal for £25 is just deluded. The club put on a good quality meal at all games (thanks to the Flying Horse) and with hosting, access to drinks and refreshments at half time, and access to the bar at the end of the game, this price is what some clubs in our league charge for a normal hospitality ticket - never mind a big game.
And if some of these ticket holders are local firms that want to come back in the future that would be great. Our current hospitality suite is rarely sold out now so lets hope we can get some people on board for the future.
For the next round I would like us to offer £300 packages with a room at Norton Grange, meal at hotel and limo service to the ground with heated seats. It is the future |
Actually, I think you'll find Nutter's 3-course Sunday lunch is precisely £25! | | | |
| Spurs hospitality on 22:32 - Feb 9 with 1586 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Spurs hospitality on 22:07 - Feb 9 by RAFCBLUE |
People have had a chance to buy it - that's why the Main Stand piece is sold out.
You also make that statement without knowing what arrangements the club had in place already with existing sponsors. Imagine a contract where the club HAVE to offer a particular sponsor a certain amount of hospitality but the sponsor is under no obligation to take it.
For Spurs, EVERY sponsor will be at Spotland and take their contracted spaces and much more besides. It's THE home game of the last 50 years in terms of the stage of the competition, the opposition and what it brings into Spotland.
I think Col's point is that the club could have put prices up for fans and haven't but have maximised a corporate hospitality. Newport did both when they got Spurs in the last round.
I don't think most have a problem with it and if you want a drink, there are plenty of other options in the vicinity pre-match. |
Good job you put the salient points in capitals or thickos like me wouldn't understand,I don't know anything about contractual arrangements, that was my point, sold out without advertising. Yes there are other options, and there will be the rest of the season, long after the spurs army leave town. | |
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| Spurs hospitality on 22:33 - Feb 9 with 1582 views | TVOS1907 |
| Spurs hospitality on 22:28 - Feb 9 by Bobbyjoe |
Actually, I think you'll find Nutter's 3-course Sunday lunch is precisely £25! |
Picture on a plate, you mean? |  |
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| Spurs hospitality on 22:44 - Feb 9 with 1558 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Spurs hospitality on 22:33 - Feb 9 by TVOS1907 |
Picture on a plate, you mean? |
NO, it's good food and great value | |
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| Spurs hospitality on 22:47 - Feb 9 with 1539 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Spurs hospitality on 20:01 - Feb 9 by R17ALE |
I'd also add that had we been away, a similar package probably would have been around £200 per head. |
It's at Wembley not a crappy pub in the north | |
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| Spurs hospitality on 22:48 - Feb 9 with 1539 views | TVOS1907 |
| Spurs hospitality on 22:44 - Feb 9 by rochdaleriddler |
NO, it's good food and great value |
Fair enough, I wasn't impressed last time I went, although it was a few years ago.
I'd rather have something at the White House up Blackstone Edge or The Border Rose in Walsden or even The White Hart in Tod.... | |
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| Spurs hospitality on 22:49 - Feb 9 with 1533 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Spurs hospitality on 22:48 - Feb 9 by TVOS1907 |
Fair enough, I wasn't impressed last time I went, although it was a few years ago.
I'd rather have something at the White House up Blackstone Edge or The Border Rose in Walsden or even The White Hart in Tod.... |
Three courses at the White House will cost you £18 minimum | |
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| Spurs hospitality on 22:51 - Feb 9 with 1526 views | Bobbyjoe |
| Spurs hospitality on 22:48 - Feb 9 by TVOS1907 |
Fair enough, I wasn't impressed last time I went, although it was a few years ago.
I'd rather have something at the White House up Blackstone Edge or The Border Rose in Walsden or even The White Hart in Tod.... |
You're a veritable galloping gourmet, TVOS! | | | |
| Spurs hospitality on 22:51 - Feb 9 with 1526 views | R17ALE |
| Spurs hospitality on 22:44 - Feb 9 by rochdaleriddler |
NO, it's good food and great value |
Can I thank you for putting NO in capitals. Without your help I fear I may not have understood you. | |
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