| FFP decision in - not good 14:01 - Oct 24 with 55831 views | Northernr |
Arbitration found in favour of the league, basically protecting its role as a lawmaker that can set the rules for its competition as it sees fit. It leaves QPR liable to paying the fine in full, £40m-£60m
https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/club-news/qpr-financial-fair-play-dispute/
The club will be launching an appeal against this which will basically drag the whole thing on for another two years or so. They've a good chance in that, on the grounds of proptionality - you can fine HSBC £1.4bn but you can't fine the local Spar Shop the same amount for the same offence. Basically leaves the whole club, everybody that works there, the training ground development and us supporters in limbo for another two years. But yeh, at least Harry won us a promotion right?
Hopefully critics of Ferdinand, Hoos, Holloway, even Hasselbaink, and basically everybody that's been left to clear up the mess left by Hughes, Redknapp, Beard and most of all Fernandes previously now appreciate what a fcking tight spot they're all in.
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| FFP decision in - not good on 14:04 - Oct 24 with 18102 views | stumbleandfall |
I cannot believe the FL will insist on a £60 million fine. That is insanity. Surely it will be suspended of some sort. |  | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:05 - Oct 24 with 18087 views | Hunterhoop |
Oh, bollocks. |  | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:07 - Oct 24 with 18063 views | Northernr |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:04 - Oct 24 by stumbleandfall |
I cannot believe the FL will insist on a £60 million fine. That is insanity. Surely it will be suspended of some sort. |
They're in an awkward position. They don't want to enforce the fine, they know it basically bankrupts a member club, but equally they don't want their rules to fall over, nor clubs punished already under those rules (Blackburn, Forest) to come after them. It's a mess from which only the lawyers are winning. | | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:09 - Oct 24 with 18035 views | Hunterhoop |
Completely agree with your assessment, Clive. But there is also a big part of me thinking that the FA can f*ck right off. They'll be worse offenders than us this season! What will they fine them? And we came back down straight away, so didn't benefit to the full extent possible AND we've almost got ourselves solvent, which was the whole f*cking objective of bringing FFP into existence! We didn't need a £60m fine to do that!
Utter vvankers. | | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:09 - Oct 24 with 18027 views | johncharles |
Drinks all round at Brentford no doubt.  |  |
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| FFP decision in - not good on 14:10 - Oct 24 with 18011 views | Northernr |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:09 - Oct 24 by Hunterhoop |
Completely agree with your assessment, Clive. But there is also a big part of me thinking that the FA can f*ck right off. They'll be worse offenders than us this season! What will they fine them? And we came back down straight away, so didn't benefit to the full extent possible AND we've almost got ourselves solvent, which was the whole f*cking objective of bringing FFP into existence! We didn't need a £60m fine to do that!
Utter vvankers. |
Football League, not FA, but yeh. | | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:17 - Oct 24 with 17934 views | SimonJames |
Stitch up. |  |
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| FFP decision in - not good on 14:19 - Oct 24 with 17909 views | paulparker |
At least Tony is learning by his mistakes
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That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| FFP decision in - not good on 14:20 - Oct 24 with 17888 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:19 - Oct 24 by paulparker |
At least Tony is learning by his mistakes
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Well to be fair to him he voted in its favour. But that isn't our argument is it. |  | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:21 - Oct 24 with 17877 views | Nov77 |
so when are we getting our new training ground and stadium then?   |  |
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| FFP decision in - not good on 14:21 - Oct 24 with 17876 views | robith |
Well. That's that then.
Pass the cyanide capsule Nigel |  | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:26 - Oct 24 with 17806 views | simmo |
Another 2 years of more of the same. That's about it, for now. |  |
| ask Beavis I get nothing Butthead |
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| FFP decision in - not good on 14:33 - Oct 24 with 17730 views | timcocking |
FFP, doesnt half make my blood boil.
Can we pass the fine to Mark Hughes and Harry Redknapp and their bloodsucking agents? |  | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:39 - Oct 24 with 17660 views | switchingcode |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:09 - Oct 24 by johncharles |
Drinks all round at Brentford no doubt. |
Piss off,but your own  | | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:40 - Oct 24 with 17642 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:39 - Oct 24 by switchingcode |
Piss off,but your own |
Blimey, you don't stray far from this board. Don't you have any of your own? | | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:46 - Oct 24 with 17566 views | FDC |
Best case scenario, this dragging on for another couple of years results in some enforced financial sanity at the club, and the the fine ends up being greatly reduced away from the spotlight at a future date...?
You wonder how this will effect owndership of the club. Does it restrict things like purchasing new grounds etc? Presumably it does, and presumably that chucks cold water over any prospects for making any money out of the club? |  | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:47 - Oct 24 with 17558 views | switchingcode |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:40 - Oct 24 by CroydonCaptJack |
Blimey, you don't stray far from this board. Don't you have any of your own? |
Just down the road 😃 yes we got a good fans forum that’s open to fans of other clubs just like yours.On a serious note can’t see this ever being paid if they give in and withdraw the fine there will be a string of clubs headed by Luton who would seek compensation that could fun into a fortune.Think it suits them to let this run and run. | | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:49 - Oct 24 with 17523 views | PlanetHonneywood |
Not sure who was on the adjudication panel, but put this before a competent and independent panel and I’m still of the view the fine will be apportioned to a sensible amount.
Now let’s get back to discussing our transfer targets for January? We need a proven goal scorer, possibly two, and a rock at the back...... |  |
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| FFP decision in - not good on 14:50 - Oct 24 with 17515 views | rsonist |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:26 - Oct 24 by simmo |
Another 2 years of more of the same. That's about it, for now. |
Yeah. A couple more years to further draw the poison out of the argument while we continue to fall in line with FFP (which may as well be an embargo in the current market).
I'm not really sure how much this changes, to be honest - is it even a surprise? - neither side were going to have a total victory, the whole thing was going to be about finding the most palatable compromise to lose least face.
I suppose we should bear in mind the FL will be gearing up to clobber Sheffield Wednesday next season and need all the leverage they can get. |  | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:55 - Oct 24 with 17481 views | qprd |
Debtors' prisons were done away with when lawmakers realized it was pretty stupid to put people in prison when they had high debts- putting them in jail made it impossible for them to earn money and actually pay back their debts
By the same token, how f***ing stupid is it to punish a club for financial mismanagement by handing them a massive massive fine? I can understand a points deduction or a transfer embargo. but if the intention of FFP is to make clubs financial sustainable, doesn't this rule just push the financially weak clubs off a cliff?
This is really, really bad. Even if QPR escapes a fine, the uncertainty will freeze any investment going forward. | | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:58 - Oct 24 with 17445 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
That’s a lot of shitty autobiographies they’ll need to shift.
I think we need to be honest with ourselves though, if this wasn’t QPR we’d all be saying ‘good’. |  | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:59 - Oct 24 with 17425 views | Dorse |
Gob status: bummed
Piss temperature: boiling
So, with the Sword of Damcles pressed firmly against the club's spinal column, we approach Saturday's game with a spring in our step and a song in our hearts. |  |
| 'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!' |
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| FFP decision in - not good on 15:00 - Oct 24 with 17419 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:47 - Oct 24 by switchingcode |
Just down the road 😃 yes we got a good fans forum that’s open to fans of other clubs just like yours.On a serious note can’t see this ever being paid if they give in and withdraw the fine there will be a string of clubs headed by Luton who would seek compensation that could fun into a fortune.Think it suits them to let this run and run. |
Yes, I think that is the problem. No-one wants to back down because of the knock-on effects. I feel we may be about to see just how deep our shareholders pockets are though.
There will also be a whole host of other clubs worried about this now as well. | | | |
| FFP decision in - not good on 15:10 - Oct 24 with 17334 views | Lblock |
| FFP decision in - not good on 14:49 - Oct 24 by PlanetHonneywood |
Not sure who was on the adjudication panel, but put this before a competent and independent panel and I’m still of the view the fine will be apportioned to a sensible amount.
Now let’s get back to discussing our transfer targets for January? We need a proven goal scorer, possibly two, and a rock at the back...... |
Panel Member Number One -- Mick Dennis
Panel Member Number Two -- Andy Hinchcliffe
Panel Member Number Three -- Rob Styles
All agreed that Bungle needs shooting |  |
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