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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa 12:47 - Aug 13 with 20665 viewsEasternJack

Roque Mesa was an unused substitute this weekend as the Swans kicked off the new season with a goalless draw at Southampton.

And Clement explained that he wants to give the 28-year-old, who arrived in an £11 million deal last month, the opportunity to come to terms with the challenges of English football.

“Roque Mesa is a really good player and he is going to be a good player for this team,”

“But it’s going to take him a little bit of time to adapt to the tempo of this league because he has been playing in La Liga.

“I have worked in La Liga and I know the difference. In La Liga you get time on the ball to play, especially in midfield.

“But over here it’s very different. You don’t get that time and space to play because of the tempo.

“Roque will get used to that, but it’s going to take him a bit of time.”

“If we get players in, it will be good if they have a bit of Premier League experience,”

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Thankfully that kills the Viera link, but probably reinforces the Joey, Bony and Chadli deals once/if Siggy goes

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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:50 - Aug 13 with 8609 viewsDarran

Dear God.

What happens if we bring players from abroad in before the window closes they don't play untill October is it?

What a load of bollox.

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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:53 - Aug 13 with 8592 viewsHighjack

Ok I'll ask the stupidly obvious question.

How the hell is he going to get used to the tempo of the English game whilst sitting on the bench?

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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:53 - Aug 13 with 8583 viewsPrivate_Partz

Seems to be criticising the DOF for not getting in players experienced in this league. He obviously feels Mesa is not up to the job at the moment.
I didn't like the 'if we get players in' bit either.

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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:54 - Aug 13 with 8570 viewsDarran

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:53 - Aug 13 by Highjack

Ok I'll ask the stupidly obvious question.

How the hell is he going to get used to the tempo of the English game whilst sitting on the bench?


The answer will be he didn't put him on incase we lost that point.

I get where you're coming from though Hije.

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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:56 - Aug 13 with 8561 viewsTheResurrection

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:53 - Aug 13 by Private_Partz

Seems to be criticising the DOF for not getting in players experienced in this league. He obviously feels Mesa is not up to the job at the moment.
I didn't like the 'if we get players in' bit either.


Like I said yesterday his subs were a statement to to the Board.

He is clearly pissed off and the Trust do nothing.

Get a facking message out there and do it today!!!!

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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:02 - Aug 13 with 8517 viewsEasternJack

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:53 - Aug 13 by Private_Partz

Seems to be criticising the DOF for not getting in players experienced in this league. He obviously feels Mesa is not up to the job at the moment.
I didn't like the 'if we get players in' bit either.


That's also how I read it. I don't think Mesa is a PC signing. Totally out of order

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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:06 - Aug 13 with 8482 viewsEasternJack

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:56 - Aug 13 by TheResurrection

Like I said yesterday his subs were a statement to to the Board.

He is clearly pissed off and the Trust do nothing.

Get a facking message out there and do it today!!!!

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Coming around to your way of thinking on PC.

I think if he had a stronger managerial track record as number 1 then he would be more forceful - probably with an ultimatum. As it is, he's got the Derby "failure" and a reputation as a solid number 2. Career wise, I don't think he can afford to tell HJ to shove it.
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:15 - Aug 13 with 8422 viewsE20Jack

He isn't going to adapt if he isn't going to play. Rubbish explanation.

I think PC is incredibly p*ssed off and I think its a great observation from the Res regarding it being almost a case of ''protest subs''. It didn't occur to me at the time, but think the assessment is spot on.

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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:17 - Aug 13 with 8411 viewsAngelRangelQS

I can see his point. Michu, DeGuzman and Chico were all terrible in their first league game for us
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:20 - Aug 13 with 8395 viewsraynor94

Absolutely farcical explanation

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:27 - Aug 13 with 8351 viewsclement

People on here love a moan don't they. Protest subs? More like, trying not to lose subs.

Messa will get minutes when we are in control of games, I am sure, not when we have backs to the wall and need everyone to be 100% switched on positionally. There are times to bed players in and yesterday wasn't that time.

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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:28 - Aug 13 with 8336 viewsicecoldjack

A point i picked up on with this signing and said on here at the time was it seemed a bit odd that there was a little too much about the manager wanting him.

""The manager knows me, he knows how I play and what I can contribute to the team. I'll try to make the team play. "

" "I know he's like [Carlo] Ancelotti - he likes to play and wants to create a different Premier League team which likes to play. The manager is a person who knows how to play and that's something I really like." Mesa.

He knows him so well he doesn't even give him 5 mins on the field and says he isn't ready.

All seems a bit odd to me but very early days .
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:31 - Aug 13 with 8308 viewsE20Jack

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:27 - Aug 13 by clement

People on here love a moan don't they. Protest subs? More like, trying not to lose subs.

Messa will get minutes when we are in control of games, I am sure, not when we have backs to the wall and need everyone to be 100% switched on positionally. There are times to bed players in and yesterday wasn't that time.


Why do you think Fulton is more positionally sound than Mesa out of interest?

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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:33 - Aug 13 with 8294 viewsraynor94

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:27 - Aug 13 by clement

People on here love a moan don't they. Protest subs? More like, trying not to lose subs.

Messa will get minutes when we are in control of games, I am sure, not when we have backs to the wall and need everyone to be 100% switched on positionally. There are times to bed players in and yesterday wasn't that time.


He's our £11 million star summer signing, and you want to give him time to bed in, on the bench? Minutes, he should be playing games!

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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:33 - Aug 13 with 8289 viewsNeath_Jack

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:27 - Aug 13 by clement

People on here love a moan don't they. Protest subs? More like, trying not to lose subs.

Messa will get minutes when we are in control of games, I am sure, not when we have backs to the wall and need everyone to be 100% switched on positionally. There are times to bed players in and yesterday wasn't that time.


He'll get minutes? He cost over £10m quid ffs, it's not like we signed him last week either. He's had plenty of time to bed in with the squad.

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:34 - Aug 13 with 8285 viewsShonky

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:02 - Aug 13 by EasternJack

That's also how I read it. I don't think Mesa is a PC signing. Totally out of order



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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:35 - Aug 13 with 8277 viewsNeath_Jack

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:34 - Aug 13 by Shonky



S'up Captain?

You think the manager signs players?

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:38 - Aug 13 with 8243 viewsShonky

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:35 - Aug 13 by Neath_Jack

S'up Captain?

You think the manager signs players?


If he doesn't sign players, then "I don't think hes a Clement signing" is a gigantically fking stupid comment in the first place. Fking morons.

Its just a ride...

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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:43 - Aug 13 with 8210 viewsNeath_Jack

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:38 - Aug 13 by Shonky

If he doesn't sign players, then "I don't think hes a Clement signing" is a gigantically fking stupid comment in the first place. Fking morons.


Hangover? You seem awfully aggressive today.

I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:51 - Aug 13 with 8162 viewsWhiterockin

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:27 - Aug 13 by clement

People on here love a moan don't they. Protest subs? More like, trying not to lose subs.

Messa will get minutes when we are in control of games, I am sure, not when we have backs to the wall and need everyone to be 100% switched on positionally. There are times to bed players in and yesterday wasn't that time.


Agree 100%. Yesterday was a backs to the wall job when it was time to make the subs. The diamond was leaving us exposed wide and we were being pulled all over the pitch. I have only seen Mesa play once against Sampdoria and if he came on and played the same way yesterday we would have lost. Yesterday the game was in the balance and that is not the time to bed in players in the Premier League.
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:53 - Aug 13 with 8146 viewsTheResurrection

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:06 - Aug 13 by EasternJack

Coming around to your way of thinking on PC.

I think if he had a stronger managerial track record as number 1 then he would be more forceful - probably with an ultimatum. As it is, he's got the Derby "failure" and a reputation as a solid number 2. Career wise, I don't think he can afford to tell HJ to shove it.
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Agreed. But I don't think it's Jenkins so much now.

Clement needs to get much more involved in transfers.

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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:58 - Aug 13 with 8102 viewsTheResurrection

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:27 - Aug 13 by clement

People on here love a moan don't they. Protest subs? More like, trying not to lose subs.

Messa will get minutes when we are in control of games, I am sure, not when we have backs to the wall and need everyone to be 100% switched on positionally. There are times to bed players in and yesterday wasn't that time.


Get minutes by fack...

He's our marquee signing!!!

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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 14:02 - Aug 13 with 8068 views3swan

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 13:58 - Aug 13 by TheResurrection

Get minutes by fack...

He's our marquee signing!!!


Agree he can only get into the pace of the game by playing.

What I saw of him in his sub role against Sampdoria was very little to say he will start soon.
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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 14:04 - Aug 13 with 8042 viewsr0ckin

Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 12:53 - Aug 13 by Highjack

Ok I'll ask the stupidly obvious question.

How the hell is he going to get used to the tempo of the English game whilst sitting on the bench?


Not the right game.

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Paul Clement on Roque Mesa on 14:09 - Aug 13 with 7991 viewsE20Jack

If we were talking about a midfield rock that he brought on in his place then I would see the point of the ''not the right game'' view. The fact he brought on Jay Fulton sort of negates that though.

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