| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. 08:14 - Sep 6 with 4872 views | NOTRAC |
James Davis from Blakeney in the Forest of Dean has been found not guilty at Cheltenham magistrates court of a charge of racially aggravated harassment.
His alleged crime.
He called two Welsh bouncers at Lydney who were in the process of evicting him from the club........"taffs"
We are now living in a country where rape,child molestation etc goes unpunished.But you dare come anywhere near being racist and the book is thrown at you.
To prosecute someone for calling someone a Taff would be pathetic except that it's actually happened.
As a Taff myself I am both sad and angry that the word now comes under the heading of racist. |  |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 08:24 - Sep 6 with 3063 views | Dr_Winston |
I'd find being named after a muddy trickle in Cardiff highly offensive. |  |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 08:26 - Sep 6 with 3059 views | ItchySphincter |
It's not racist and that's why he was found not guilty. They should be embarrassed. |  |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 08:26 - Sep 6 with 3058 views | Jackfath |
The world's gone MAD! |  |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 08:26 - Sep 6 with 3058 views | Cottsy |
But he was found not guilty.  |  |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 08:35 - Sep 6 with 3044 views | epaul |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 08:24 - Sep 6 by Dr_Winston |
I'd find being named after a muddy trickle in Cardiff highly offensive. |
Spot on, I detest being called it, although even living up here I'm hardly called it anymore, most people use a first name basis |  |
| The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day
The b*stards are coming back though |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 08:45 - Sep 6 with 3025 views | jack247 |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 08:35 - Sep 6 by epaul |
Spot on, I detest being called it, although even living up here I'm hardly called it anymore, most people use a first name basis |
A few people in Swansea, me included, dislike it because of the rivers location rather than the fact it is derogatory towards the Welsh.
Lambanger is fine | | | |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 08:56 - Sep 6 with 3006 views | Spratty |
I agree there is a line to be drawn and such lines are difficult to draw.
Given it is said he was swearing at them I doubt he was using that particular "collective noun" in a complimentary way. There are other such words for other groups of people, which if used in a similar way would involve fairly rapid and strong legal retribution (although some similarly use them proudly to describe themselves).
It's all about negative group stereotypes I suppose and I agree about being proud to be a Taff and the sadness and anger at it being seen as a racist term. There are sadly negative associations for e.g. from the shocking old old rhyme Taffy but that does not mean such pathetic things should be allowed to affect the positive image.
I am sure a Geordie would be proud to be such and many would describe them thus without any RANCOUR. However add a swearword on the end and it is is generally an insult (except for e.g. when used as amongst us Jacks - where it is a positive term of endearment and acceptance).
Complicated issue. Not dissimilar though to using someone's weight, hair state to describe them when speaking in a derogatory way. |  | | |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 08:58 - Sep 6 with 3002 views | Jackfath |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 08:56 - Sep 6 by Spratty |
I agree there is a line to be drawn and such lines are difficult to draw.
Given it is said he was swearing at them I doubt he was using that particular "collective noun" in a complimentary way. There are other such words for other groups of people, which if used in a similar way would involve fairly rapid and strong legal retribution (although some similarly use them proudly to describe themselves).
It's all about negative group stereotypes I suppose and I agree about being proud to be a Taff and the sadness and anger at it being seen as a racist term. There are sadly negative associations for e.g. from the shocking old old rhyme Taffy but that does not mean such pathetic things should be allowed to affect the positive image.
I am sure a Geordie would be proud to be such and many would describe them thus without any RANCOUR. However add a swearword on the end and it is is generally an insult (except for e.g. when used as amongst us Jacks - where it is a positive term of endearment and acceptance).
Complicated issue. Not dissimilar though to using someone's weight, hair state to describe them when speaking in a derogatory way. |
You should think about becoming a magistrate. | |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:01 - Sep 6 with 2997 views | Spratty |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 08:58 - Sep 6 by Jackfath |
You should think about becoming a magistrate. |
They need to make decisions not endlessly pontificate | | | |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:03 - Sep 6 with 2989 views | Jackfath |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:01 - Sep 6 by Spratty |
They need to make decisions not endlessly pontificate |
I agree. The magistrates I've come across in my extremely sad experiences have been utter buffoons. I reckon they need people like you who would be able to make better decisions and be far far more understanding in the real world.
I realise this could be costrued as you being a buffoon. I am not making that comparison. Unfortunately I have to really be careful as there are some very very sensitive souls on here recently. | |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:07 - Sep 6 with 2981 views | ItchySphincter |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 08:35 - Sep 6 by epaul |
Spot on, I detest being called it, although even living up here I'm hardly called it anymore, most people use a first name basis |
I tend to inform people that the taffs are our bin dipping cousins up the road when I get called it down there. | |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:08 - Sep 6 with 2977 views | ItchySphincter |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 08:56 - Sep 6 by Spratty |
I agree there is a line to be drawn and such lines are difficult to draw.
Given it is said he was swearing at them I doubt he was using that particular "collective noun" in a complimentary way. There are other such words for other groups of people, which if used in a similar way would involve fairly rapid and strong legal retribution (although some similarly use them proudly to describe themselves).
It's all about negative group stereotypes I suppose and I agree about being proud to be a Taff and the sadness and anger at it being seen as a racist term. There are sadly negative associations for e.g. from the shocking old old rhyme Taffy but that does not mean such pathetic things should be allowed to affect the positive image.
I am sure a Geordie would be proud to be such and many would describe them thus without any RANCOUR. However add a swearword on the end and it is is generally an insult (except for e.g. when used as amongst us Jacks - where it is a positive term of endearment and acceptance).
Complicated issue. Not dissimilar though to using someone's weight, hair state to describe them when speaking in a derogatory way. |
Not racist, not complicated. | |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:10 - Sep 6 with 2974 views | Spratty |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:03 - Sep 6 by Jackfath |
I agree. The magistrates I've come across in my extremely sad experiences have been utter buffoons. I reckon they need people like you who would be able to make better decisions and be far far more understanding in the real world.
I realise this could be costrued as you being a buffoon. I am not making that comparison. Unfortunately I have to really be careful as there are some very very sensitive souls on here recently. |
No I would not take that amiss in any way, but do admit to definite personal elements of baffoonery.
Which amongst us should judge our fellow man - oh yep we do on PS every day | | | |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:12 - Sep 6 with 2964 views | Spratty |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:08 - Sep 6 by ItchySphincter |
Not racist, not complicated. |
Not according to the EU definition | | | |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:15 - Sep 6 with 2958 views | YrAlarch |
I have to say I am struggling to understand how 'Race' has been substituted for a national identity i.e. 'Welsh'. I suppose that for some people being called 'Taff' may be insulting, but how can it be considered Racial? Both the complainants and the CPS need to get a life and the latter concentrate on carrying out serious prosecutions with a degree of competence. At least the verdict indicated that someone had some common sense. | | | |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:16 - Sep 6 with 2958 views | ItchySphincter |
Is 'Taffy' defined as a racist word in the EU definitions? Well blow me. | |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:46 - Sep 6 with 2913 views | max936 |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 08:35 - Sep 6 by epaul |
Spot on, I detest being called it, although even living up here I'm hardly called it anymore, most people use a first name basis |
Morning Taff  |  |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:49 - Sep 6 with 2900 views | max936 |
I coudn't give a monkeys chuff myself, its quite endearing really. | |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:50 - Sep 6 with 2899 views | epaul |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:46 - Sep 6 by max936 |
Morning Taff |
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| The hair and the beard have gone I am now conforming to society, tis a sad day
The b*stards are coming back though |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:57 - Sep 6 with 2888 views | perchrockjack |
not as bad as a SWANSEA man born and bred being refered to as a Scouser.
There again JACK has and is being used by all manner of people from all over when its a birthright for those blessed | |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 10:02 - Sep 6 with 2873 views | lifelong |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 09:57 - Sep 6 by perchrockjack |
not as bad as a SWANSEA man born and bred being refered to as a Scouser.
There again JACK has and is being used by all manner of people from all over when its a birthright for those blessed |
What would you say the boundary would be for being born an official Jack?
Something like being born within sight of the guildhall clock maybe? |  | | |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 10:11 - Sep 6 with 2851 views | perchrockjack |
Morning Roger.
A good question.
Not really thought about that but I d like to know WHEN it became the norm for people from say Llanelli "turks" to be refered to as JACKS. I d suggest anyone doing this at the old Glen Ballroom would had a face to worry mam with when getting back home.
Techically I d say the old County Borough of Swansea..
ps, I now this thread will lead to blood so fookit. I never started it like..
pps, I been called TAFF so many times and I never thought much about it honestly and Im supposed to be precious . | |
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| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 10:14 - Sep 6 with 2843 views | max936 |
| Don't call me a Taff or you'll be charged with racially aggravated harassment. on 10:12 - Sep 6 by lifelong |
A Jurk maybe?
Was not born in the Gorseinon area though, born in the Swansea Valley, affectionately called 'Woolley Backs' by the Jacks. |
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