| TF Tweets.... 09:55 - Mar 13 with 4787 views | TheBlob |
"There has always had to be one leader. One voice to avoid confusion. All information should be given to one person who is in control."
"nothing wrong with Harry. Team playing hard. Some defensive lapses. Need to tighten up. And of course score goals. Playing much better"
"Takes time to rebuild. May take years to get it right. There was little to build on. Give support to team. And hope for Charlie back." |  |
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| TF Tweets.... on 22:41 - Mar 13 with 1278 views | Northernr |
| TF Tweets.... on 22:27 - Mar 13 by NgaiTahu_Hoop |
Far as i know no-ones dug up any bodies in his back yard yet so how about we all stop treatin him like Fred West and give the fella break. He sez nothin people slate him. He sez somethin people slate him. FFS the bloke has said he's in it for the long haul and hasn't shown any sign that he gonna change his mind. Sure we are playin like a bag of busted arses at the moment and makin things hard for ourselves but hey we are QPR and we still in this. Aint over till the fat lady sings an all that |
Out of interest, exactly how big does that debt have to get before we're allowed to ask if he's got the foggiest idea what the fck he's doing? |  | | |
| TF Tweets.... on 00:12 - Mar 14 with 1220 views | NgaiTahu_Hoop |
| TF Tweets.... on 22:41 - Mar 13 by Northernr |
Out of interest, exactly how big does that debt have to get before we're allowed to ask if he's got the foggiest idea what the fck he's doing? |
I reckon we have passed the "how big does that debt have to get" mark and you are right to ask the question. Does he have the foggiest? Obviously not in football sense but hoping he got the $$$$ side covered. Am I adopting ostrich head-in-sand approach here? Guess i am to certain extent but whaddaya do? There are so many issues at the club, and football in general for that matter, that i just try to focus what happens on the pitch. That is frustrating enough.
We all entitled to comment, TF included, so why do some crack the sh#ts when he does say/tweet something to us. |  | | |
| TF Tweets.... on 02:15 - Mar 14 with 1199 views | RangersAreBack |
I agree Tony, there should be one leader - Amit. |  | | |
| TF Tweets.... on 09:48 - Mar 14 with 1122 views | Antti_Heinola |
| TF Tweets.... on 22:41 - Mar 13 by Northernr |
Out of interest, exactly how big does that debt have to get before we're allowed to ask if he's got the foggiest idea what the fck he's doing? |
of course he's got an idea.
it's just that the idea isn't working.
still, in a sense Clive, being mischievous, you can't lose. He fcks it all up and we just go down a level or two (we won't go out of business, strangely, because debt is actually too large for that - it's too much to write off and the assets the club has nowhere near cover the losses) and rebuild, staying at LR. Or he triumphantly gets a new ground and the business becomes more successful and we all admit he did know what he was doing. |  |
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| TF Tweets.... on 10:15 - Mar 14 with 1094 views | THEBUSH |
| TF Tweets.... on 00:12 - Mar 14 by NgaiTahu_Hoop |
I reckon we have passed the "how big does that debt have to get" mark and you are right to ask the question. Does he have the foggiest? Obviously not in football sense but hoping he got the $$$$ side covered. Am I adopting ostrich head-in-sand approach here? Guess i am to certain extent but whaddaya do? There are so many issues at the club, and football in general for that matter, that i just try to focus what happens on the pitch. That is frustrating enough.
We all entitled to comment, TF included, so why do some crack the sh#ts when he does say/tweet something to us. |
What the anti TF brigade are saying, is that they are allowed to criticise him and the pro TF brigade are supposed to stay quiet, well it doesn't work like that !! |  | | |
| TF Tweets.... on 10:18 - Mar 14 with 1089 views | Jamie |
| TF Tweets.... on 10:15 - Mar 14 by THEBUSH |
What the anti TF brigade are saying, is that they are allowed to criticise him and the pro TF brigade are supposed to stay quiet, well it doesn't work like that !! |
I don't think anyone has said the pro-TF people should keep quiet. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and should be free to voice it.
To me, the suggestion that a group of successful businessmen wouldn't dump a deeply toxic asset, preferring to pour more money into it is laughable, but I respect the posters right to believe it. | | | |
| TF Tweets.... on 10:32 - Mar 14 with 1073 views | daveB |
| TF Tweets.... on 10:15 - Mar 14 by THEBUSH |
What the anti TF brigade are saying, is that they are allowed to criticise him and the pro TF brigade are supposed to stay quiet, well it doesn't work like that !! |
who are the anti Tony Fernandes people? If asking what on earth is going on makes you anti someone then I give up. I haven't seen anybody suggest he should go just ask what is going on |  | | |
| TF Tweets.... on 10:38 - Mar 14 with 1067 views | THEBUSH |
| TF Tweets.... on 10:32 - Mar 14 by daveB |
who are the anti Tony Fernandes people? If asking what on earth is going on makes you anti someone then I give up. I haven't seen anybody suggest he should go just ask what is going on |
I'm sorry but your so wrong on many accounts, either that or your not reading this message board, which I know you are.
Just go and have look at some past messages, it's all there to read, they want him to leave. | | | |
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| TF Tweets.... on 10:43 - Mar 14 with 1060 views | Northernr |
| TF Tweets.... on 10:15 - Mar 14 by THEBUSH |
What the anti TF brigade are saying, is that they are allowed to criticise him and the pro TF brigade are supposed to stay quiet, well it doesn't work like that !! |
I'll just send the same question your way then....
Out of interest, exactly how big does that debt have to get before we're allowed to ask if he's got the foggiest idea what the fck he's doing? | | | |
| TF Tweets.... on 10:50 - Mar 14 with 1049 views | Antti_Heinola |
| TF Tweets.... on 10:43 - Mar 14 by Northernr |
I'll just send the same question your way then....
Out of interest, exactly how big does that debt have to get before we're allowed to ask if he's got the foggiest idea what the fck he's doing? |
who says you're not allowed to ask, though?
i think everyone's asking that, it's just some people are panicking, some are very worried, some are a bit worried, some think Tone has it all in hand and some, like me, are a bit bored of worrying about the state of the club's finances for the last 30 years and prefer to just stop worrying and try and enjoy the actual football. OK, that last bit may not be working. | |
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| TF Tweets.... on 10:56 - Mar 14 with 1045 views | daveB |
| TF Tweets.... on 10:38 - Mar 14 by THEBUSH |
I'm sorry but your so wrong on many accounts, either that or your not reading this message board, which I know you are.
Just go and have look at some past messages, it's all there to read, they want him to leave. |
So if you question Fernandes you are against him?
There is a world of difference between wanting to know how on earth he is going to fix this mess of his own making and wanting him to go | | | |
| TF Tweets.... on 10:57 - Mar 14 with 1043 views | nadera78 |
| TF Tweets.... on 10:32 - Mar 14 by daveB |
who are the anti Tony Fernandes people? If asking what on earth is going on makes you anti someone then I give up. I haven't seen anybody suggest he should go just ask what is going on |
I'm afraid it's the way of the world these days (I sound really old saying that!).
As soon as you dare offer any kind of criticism or question what is going on you get accused of trying to drive someone out. Or wanting Paladini back. Or being told to go and watch Chelsea. It's really quite tiresome. | | | |
| TF Tweets.... on 11:03 - Mar 14 with 1035 views | THEBUSH |
| TF Tweets.... on 10:43 - Mar 14 by Northernr |
I'll just send the same question your way then....
Out of interest, exactly how big does that debt have to get before we're allowed to ask if he's got the foggiest idea what the fck he's doing? |
To think I'm not concerned about the debt is wrong, of course I am.
I didn't like it when we were 20-30 million in debt, so obviously our debt now is outrageous.
I think it's good we are divided about TF, it's just that I don't like some of personal abuse he gets.
My opinion is, were probably gonna get even bigger in debt, what with the New Stadium and training ground planned, what should TF do, pull the plug now and let us end up like the Wimbledons of this world ? | | | |
| TF Tweets.... on 12:16 - Mar 14 with 994 views | johnnyl14 |
| TF Tweets.... on 10:43 - Mar 13 by bosh67 |
To be completely fair to Tony what do you want him to say?
The press came out with the £177m loss, he said it was owed to the shareholders and that the board were committed to the project.
He has said there are no financial issues threatening the club.
He is getting behind his manager and team, even if he knows it has to change next season.
He has said getting it right might take years. If we build the academy and use it properly, that will take years, but it will be worth it.
The board's plans and wealth extends to building what will effectively be a QPR regeneration city and that is where we are heading.
The club will be bigger than football and sensibly so. It will a be physical city and that is where the owners will make their money and the club will probably be one of the wealthiest in the world.
The problem for us is that we are living through the messy end of this and that is hugely frustrating.
It may be a blessing not to go up this year because the whole structure of the club and its ethos will change for the better, in my mind, if we don't.
If we do go up we do face the pressures of bringing in expensive players that don't deliver. Stay down and we do have financial backing, a huge future plan and the chance to bring on a much younger and exciting team long term. [Post edited 13 Mar 2014 10:44]
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Well said. | | | |
| TF Tweets.... on 16:50 - Mar 14 with 935 views | wood_hoop |
I wonder sometimes at the gullibility of some, just how much do you think its going to take to get the books balanced ? unless of course TF and his fellow shareholders are going to take the hit of the gigantic debt hanging over the club, and just how much is it going to take to put things right ?, the TF way of course.
I am sorry but have not the slighest sympathy for the man, all this cobblers of him being some kind of messia just makes me laugh, if he walked out tomorrow, with his debt, just how many tears would be shed, a few crocidile maybe, from the sycophants who cannot see past someone who has shown to be incompentant at running a football club, good job him and his mates have deep pockets, then again maybe that's the problem, access to too much money.
So judging by how much he is admired by some, would you be prepared to buy shares if he decided to float some or all of the club's ownership.
I wouldn't trust him to get it right anymore than one of those famed Nigerian scams, in fact you got more chance of getting more off one of those than buying into his 'dream' judging by his performance at the helm of our club. |  | | |
| TF Tweets.... on 19:17 - Mar 14 with 905 views | WeaverQPR |
If TF was the chairman of another club we would all be pointing and laughing hysterically |  |
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| TF Tweets.... on 12:08 - Mar 15 with 871 views | THEBUSH |
| TF Tweets.... on 19:17 - Mar 14 by WeaverQPR |
If TF was the chairman of another club we would all be pointing and laughing hysterically |
So you actually care what other people think  | | | |
| TF Tweets.... on 12:59 - Mar 15 with 853 views | Pommyhoop |
| TF Tweets.... on 12:08 - Mar 15 by THEBUSH |
So you actually care what other people think |
Do what I do...
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| TF Tweets.... on 15:01 - Mar 15 with 833 views | isawqpratwcity |
| TF Tweets.... on 10:43 - Mar 14 by Northernr |
I'll just send the same question your way then....
Out of interest, exactly how big does that debt have to get before we're allowed to ask if he's got the foggiest idea what the fck he's doing? |
Er, you can ask that anytime.
But it might not make any difference because you don't own the club.
Go for your life: positive suggestions welcomed. |  |
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