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Thread | Not a rant but a serious question re the mindset of shooting and passing
at 14:15 12 Dec 2024
I never played football at any level and recalling lunchtime playground 'kickarounds' if the ball ever came to me in an attacking and shooting position I just hit it and probably had a success rate of under 10%.
I did however play rugby and when passing the ball had 'instant' thought before the ball left my hands, a focus as to where the the ball 'needed' to go - I didn't just throw it 'wildly' as my football shooting prowess.
So firstly, considering the passing we see from our hooped professionals, I have to ask (because I really do not understand why so many balls are being passed tot he opponents or into areas where there is absolutely no hooped shirt)
'Do they actually have the same 'instant' thought before passing that clearly rugby players, basket ball players, netball players have- to ENSURE it goes to their intended recipient or do they just kick the ball thoughtlessly?
It happens so often and I (together with those I stand with) are bemused and I regularly hear "Why would you DO that?" so often !
Now considering shooting and there is obviously a difference in a shot coming from an immediate opportunity and one where the player is in control.
Koki, last night, clearly had control, thought and intent and curled the ball just past the post. Whereas for the last couple of games, i have seen Paul Smyth in the same situation and position on the field cut in and then raise the ball high and wide. Each time he does this, he smacks himself (not to learn but because we are not allowed on the pitch and he knows if we were someone would do it for him!). Then we see Varanne fire over the bar and so often Chair cutting in from the left and last night, Kholi just kicking the ball high over the bar and not hitting the target.
So do strikers actually think "I must hit the target!" before they shoot or, like me , in the school playground, do they just kick and hope without any thought of hitting the target?"
As I say, my successful playground shooting percentage was under 10%, my rugby passing was way above that but what of the percentages our professionals have re hitting the target and forcing a save?
Once again, I expect some ridicule and critical posts for asking but it IS a serious question...Do they think before they 'Do' or is it 'kick without thought?'
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Reply | Big screen
at 16:01 8 Dec 2024
Up until Saturday's result, there has been nothing to really show from previous games and I think the word from the club was "let's leave that unplugged for now!" 
Glad to see that, as the home team, the scoreboard had 'QPR' in the same size font as the opponents, whereas a few weeks back we had an 'apologetic' and 'fading away' little
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Reply | Paal
at 13:21 8 Dec 2024
I have been on his case for quite a while now and it is re-assuring that someone else can see what the 'emperor' is actually wearing!
I don't like our back left side (probably because that is where I stand and watch so, so often, the way people get round the back and to the goal line...as Kholi did yesterday to force the corner.
However, Paal in an attacking mode is different and must be credited for some good crosses and shots...so he is not the worst! I just don't like the way people constantly get round him at the back.
As for Ashby....I haven't been impressed by him as yet and there are signs of 'panic' and poor control (better than I'll ever be though and that's why he is on the pitch!!).
As for distribution, I really wish Marti could drill into their heads (and this refers to others and not just Paal and Ashby) NOT to play the ball to no one as happened a number of times yesterday, and NOT to keep making sloppy passes to the other team, which they are constantly doing.
Yesterday we had a 3 v 2 overload on our right wing just outside the box and Varane played a cross field ball immediately collected by Norwich who then pressed forward.
In such windy conditions the aim should be to retain control on the ground (which is what Norwich did well) and NOT kick balls that the wind can divert!
So sloppy distribution by many will ALWAYS kill us! [Post edited 8 Dec 13:23]
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Reply | Gladiator 2
at 16:58 26 Nov 2024
"No idea why anyone of any intelligence would go and watch this moronic, mass-market horse manure."
Its a bit like me heading down to Loftus Road each home game and believing that I am going to see something different, something more thoughtful, creative, well-executed (no puns intended), but it is the same as I saw last year and yet I still go, enjoy it for the most part for the nonsense it is and then tell myself that I'm not looking forward to the next one...until the next one comes along!
We keep reading the same script - as do the other teams- but they can improvise, we cannot!
I cannot now get the image out of my head that all those to be sacrificed in the West London arena are dressed in blue and white hoops and then the Lions, the Tigers, and Black cats tear them apart and Blue Birds, Robins, Hornets, Canaries, Swans all come and pick at the carcasses. Even the usual sacrificial rams can have a feast! |
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Reply | The QPR Cheese Board
at 22:56 25 Nov 2024
Swiss Cheese has fewer holes than our defence
Brie is like our throw ins and long kicks, sloppy at the sides
Caerphilly is NOT how we pass the ball
Cheshire (Cat) is how other teams smile when they see Paal in our defence.
Rancid is how we seem to procure players
Edam is what I say when we go a goal behind
Blue is my language when we let in two
Asiago is the way I might pay in future
Monterey Jack is by the railroad track
Madness but fun |
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Thread | Why??
at 16:51 25 Nov 2024
Why........
are we not able to shoot without it flying over the bar?
doesn't the shooting coach address this?
can't the players think (for a split second) 'keep it down!'?
do we keep kicking balls to (i) the other team or (ii) to no one?
do teams cut us apart through the middle?
cannot we retain the ball from a throw in?
do we keep playing high balls in the centre to Celar to flick on to nobody?
do we keep kicking the ball to the touchline and expecting Jimmy to head it to one of our players?
do we think crossing the ball at free kicks will bring thumping headers and bulging nets?
do we keep thinking that doing the same thing will bring results?
does Paal and others allow players to cut through to the goal line on our left but we seldom make the same incisive passes when we attack?
do other keepers keep having a blinder of a game with save upon save?
do we keep turning attack into defense and their scoring?
is Celar (and Frey for that matter) late to the dance wherever the ball is?
does it bother me so much that the players cannot address this?
I don't expect any answers but I thought I'd ask the questions ( I often ask) so the players can have a little think about it!
Yep, I expect lots of derisory comments (as per usual...go ahead) but at least I've asked the questions some of you are thinking need asking!
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Reply | Parental Control
at 20:55 8 Nov 2024
Its all a case of being taught manners, respect and decency and kids (or older) hanging onto the ball is stupid and idiots should be called idiots when they are-or perhaps we should let them grow up without respecting other people's property??
There is a lot riding on the game and people are there to enjoy it, not to let kids or older think they are being smart when they are not...hence the request to the parents...teach your kids to respect others and also call them out when they don't! [Post edited 9 Nov 10:29]
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Reply | Parental Control
at 20:52 8 Nov 2024
Yes, but this post is to the parents of said kid and, just for the record, there were lots of others shouting "Give the f..king ball back!!" so at least " idiot" may prompt him to say 'dad, I did this and they called me an idiot'
He could have been called worse and it just shows that, whereas over 50's were brought up to respect other people's beongings and if something that wasn't yours came your way, you had respect and decency to hand it back, today's lack of manners, thought and parental contol breeds idiots!
If someone else had done the same (not a kid) he would have been called far far worse! |
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Reply | Parental Control
at 16:56 8 Nov 2024
I think some of the players are misreading the signs and cannot see the 'r'!!
That might be the problem! |
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Thread | Celar and Freys' watches
at 16:53 8 Nov 2024
When my brother and I were small my dad, used tosecretely put our watches back an hour when we were asl;eep and having said we could get up and open presents at 7.00am on Christmas morning, we did but it was actually 8.00am. Later he would advance them back to normal time.
Please could someone at the club do something similar to Frey and Celar's watches but not to set them back - but to advance them (only by 5 seconds or so) before each game (and then reset them after the game).
That is all I think is required to get them to be where the ball is going to be so they can do their job that they are highly paid to do and not be consistently 5 seconds late!
(Just a suggestion) [Post edited 8 Nov 16:54]
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Thread | Parental Control
at 16:43 8 Nov 2024
Parents please please can you teach your children that when we are losing and need to try and score, the act of NOT giving the ball back to the keeper or other team works against us, is not clever and demonstrates either some idiotic upbringing by the parent (you!!) whereby the kids think its what their parents (you) want them to do OR the kid just doesn't get it and should not be at the game.
I openly admit that each time I pay money to see the team and we are losing and I see your child do this I will call him (less frequently her and hopefully never 'they') AN IDIOT ! and I believe it will catch on!
Be an educating parent and don't let your child grow up to be an imbecile! Or at least give them a placard so we know in advance and can take the ball off them, something like this will do  |
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Thread | A Definition of Madness (or, at least, How to make the supporters mad!)
at 16:35 8 Nov 2024
Do the same thing, again and again and again and again and then again knowing that it did not work the first, second, third, fourth or fifth thinking it is going to work and never, not once, not ever, no way, no cookies trying something different!
Free kicks:
Time and again we cross the ball and expecting a powerful header to hit the back of the net (or miss the goalkeeper) ......this is NOT going to happen!
Option: Try something different, an overlap and short pass to get behind the wall or a pass to the side and a shot (on target)?? Do somewthing different!
Supplying our £2m centre forward (I can't bring myself to use the word Stri..r !):
Time and again we pump high balls to him and he jumps (that's worth £500k of anyone's money) and he flicks it on (again another £500K worth) but to no one!
Option: Play the ball to his feet, cut through the midfield and let him turn and shoot..it is what others have been doing to us.
Our Corners:
Cross the ball and hit the first defender, or let the keeper catch it or over kick it and have no one backing up.
Option: Watch videos of what teams do to us!
Their corners:
Have small and fast players on the goal line or in the 6 yard box (i'm old) and tall, lanky and slow players further out such that, IF we get the ball (and it is not in the net) we have no one in the outfield to clear to and break away.
Option: Have small fast players in the outfield of on the edge of the box ready to run to wings
Goal Kicks (long):
Have everyone muster to the righthand side, leaving all of the left side of the pitch un-manned, keeper kicks long and 'hopes' that Jimmy Dunne heads it -the chances being 25% it goes into touch, 25% he heads it and they get it, 49% they get it and break and 1% we retain possession.
Option: Do the foregoing four times but on the fifth (coaches please note this is not ALWAYS the fifth every game) but then have two small fast players hold back (more to the middle of the pitch butr still 'inside' the defending perimeter. Then have the keeper kick left and the two fast players run to the ball, one overlaps the other, whilst the tall heading players run into the box! Chances are 75%-25% we retain possession and have a scoring chance!
Shooting:
Time and again, prior to the game, we see the players line up and shoot at the practice goal and are on target then, during the game (aside from the other night and Dieng's heroics) we don't shoot or when we do, it is blocked or misses the target.
Option: Duriommng the pre-game shooiting practice, have some dummies dressed in the visitors colours, in front of the practice goal, so that they get used to shooting at a target with people in the way!
How difficult are any of the foregoing 'Options' and I am sure that there are many others. So why OH Why (or as you may often hear coming from the lower loft "WHHHHYYYY?????' ) do we keep doing the same old things, game after game? |
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Thread | Fundamentals
at 11:37 20 Oct 2024
1. Shooting- aim at the gap inside that white posty thing as opposed to hitting the ball with all your might. We had three decent chances before they equalised and each was blasted over the bar (by some distance!). What is the point of practicing shooting before the game if during it you don't know what to do and panic?
2. Throw ins- Both hands hold the ball, pass it back over your head, then forward and let go- ensure it goes to one of your players and we keep the ball.
3. Ball control- Your feet are better at controlling the ball than your head. Stop the random head tennis. Anticpate the ball coming to your feet as opposed to hitting your legs and going into touch or to their side!
4. Defending - tackle and don't let them get behind you, if anything put the ball out of play. (Paal and Fox are attrocious at this!)
5. One on one - if you are through shoot even if it is on your weaker foot and hit the target. Practice shooting with your weaker foot.
6. Free Kicks- Do something different than always lofting the ball into a packed area. Short passes behind/ alongside the wall to get behind them.
7. Stop pointless 'flick ons' by Frey- Sinclair Armstrong is not there anymore and it rarely worked/works. Who is Frey actually meant to be flicking the ball to??
8 Centre Forward- learn to anticipate. Sit the strikers and wingers down (as if they were taking a driving safety test) and show them scenarios. For example...Mr Frey, your winger has the ball and has got round the back, if he crosses the ball are you really going to be in a position to head it? If not then we shall ALWAYS ask him to fire the ball in hard and low and you have to anticipate that!
Yesterday was terrible and it is basic fundamentals that we just do not seem to be able to grasp. I don't see this as Marti as much as the players BUT I do wonder what they had been focussing on in training during the two week break  [Post edited 20 Oct 12:29]
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Reply | Tactical approach
at 17:54 2 Oct 2024
Please please can someone thibnk of something different at free kicks.
I bemoaned this last season that all we do is either cross or shoot and always to no avail.
When they have two or three people in the wall, we have an advantage and when we stand two men over the ball I have said have one man peel off behind the wall and a short pass means we are in behind them and we take two or three of them in the wall out of the game! We did this ONCE last year and scored.
Separately, when we are kicking long and everyone goes to the right side of the pitch , the left hand side of the pitch is empty! Why cannot the keeper occasionally signal intent and two of our players be prepared to peel off as THEY know the ball is not going ointo the same place but is going left?!
Bottom line is DO something different, we are TOO predictable.
Stop passing to the other team (or Jude the cat! on the touchline)
Celar and Frey please anticipate and move rather than waiting for ther perfect delivery
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Reply | Are we weak at left back??
at 01:25 12 Aug 2024
Ok, so now having seen two goals against us resulting from beating Paal on our left and crossing to score_ as teams did consistently last year and in the pre-season friendlies_ has anyone changed their pro Paal stance or consider that he needs support?
I like hime further forward but he lets people go past him and cross to our centre time and again  |
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Reply | You ain’t are smart, you just is
at 11:24 3 Aug 2024
Ever wondered why it's Ping Pong or Bing Bong, Ding Dong, King Kong, or Sing Song and never the other way around? No....of course you haven't! 
....but if it was it would sound wrong!
It is something you may not know that you know but there is a sequence of vowel changes it is always: I then O or I then A, or, if three words, then I A O.
So Clip Clop, Flip Flop, Hip Hop Tick Tock and Zig Zag, Mish Mash, Tic Tac, KitKat, Jingle Jangle or Bish Bash Bosh, Tic Tac Toe, Bing Bang Bong!
There is a similar rule, not taught in School, we all follow withought knowing which is why we have Big Blue Sky or Little Green men but never a Blue Big Sky or Green Little men! We all place adjectives in the following order without ever being taught to do so, we just pick it:
Opinion, Size, Age, Shape, Colour, Origin, Material, Purpose then the noun!
So we can have a lovely, little, old, rectangular , green, French, silver, whittling KNIFE but if you change ther order you'll sound like a maniac! (Extract from Mark Forsyth's Book "The Elements of Eloquence"- Chapter 8!)
Thought some of you may be interested whereas others may just think its Poo! 
(i'm sure the will be some crass/ sarcastic comments but that's to be expected  . However, I hope at least one of you smiles and thinks...No I didn't know that! 
oh yes, bringing it back to why we are all here..."C'mon you R's" 
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Reply | Are we weak at left back??
at 21:40 29 Jul 2024
With respect -
No- not an over reaction based on pre-season as the OP clearly states!
It was a question and at least some if the replies concur that there IS a weakness there, if only lack of support/cover!
Let’s see how it pans out and whether teams again focus on a right sided overlap and crossing attack - as they have for two seasons!
Time will tell and, as both Marti and his post match interviewer said- better to react to things seen in friendlies than wait till the season and start losing points! |
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Thread | Are we weak at left back??
at 13:52 28 Jul 2024
Not a criticism, not a moan but an observation which I hope the team have seen.
Time and again for the last two seasons goals have come from teams getting round the back and Paal not being able (or willing) to commit to tackling and it is noticeable that the goal came from that same area yesterday.
Does Paal need support on our left? |
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Reply | Uncle Albert
at 18:22 23 Jul 2024
Good luck 'unc' and thanks for your commitment!
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