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Reply | Cifuentes gone?
at 12:32 24 Nov 2024
Exactly. Lloyd was in the Conference and Morgan was in Spurs’ U18s.
Our problem is the quality of the squad and fitness/injuries, it’s not the manager. And who are responsible for the former? |
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Reply | Cifuentes gone?
at 08:33 24 Nov 2024
It is pretty clear he cannot stand Nourry, things he’s getting sacked, and does not want to go.
The little comment about “data” embedded in one of the answers was also telling.
Also the comment about him being clear to those above what we need, indicates a) he thinks the squad is poor and b) they haven’t signed what he wants (yet).
All in all, sad. He is clearly feeling the pressure - understandable given the situation - feels exasperated at what he can do with so many injuries and this squad, and does not feel supported by the CEO/DOF. |
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Reply | Celar
at 21:07 23 Nov 2024
We sold Armstrong to buy Celar. After Shamrock Rovers share, it was supposedly a straight in and out at that level of money.
Armstrong or Celar? Your call (well, it was Christian’s…)
But a lot to do with Armstrong. |
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Reply | Cifuentes gone?
at 21:04 23 Nov 2024
The fundamental issue is:
What competent manager/head coach comes to work under Christian Nourry?
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What competent DOF comes to work with Marti Cifuentes?
It is blindingly obvious what the issue is. |
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Reply | Cifuentes gone?
at 20:33 23 Nov 2024
Quite.
A change of CEO and the recruitment of a competent DoF with some experience in this game we call football…that’d be nice. |
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Reply | Cifuentes gone?
at 20:30 23 Nov 2024
Well, quite.
Doesn’t work for Christian that, does it? [Post edited 23 Nov 20:30]
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Reply | Taking ownership – Preview
at 20:47 22 Nov 2024
Real barrel of laughs at the end there with the predictions!
I keep telling myself, surely, SURELY we win at home at some point, even if by pure fluke. Celar scores off his knob when looking the other way. |
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Reply | Things You Have Changed Your Mind About
at 12:23 22 Nov 2024
They are far better treated now than they were. Animal welfare is much much higher. And that number of deaths in one day is very very uncommon. |
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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 14:48 15 Nov 2024
Or we struggle in the next few games. Nourry sacks Cifuentes, hires a bloke who struggles to, we get relegated, and then we get into a new cycle in the league below. |
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Reply | MC has got to go
at 14:17 13 Nov 2024
Yeah, 10-15 years from starting in your early 20s is mid-late 30s, isn’t it?! I wasn’t saying 30s was unrealistic. You need some maths’ skills for these Partner roles. ;)
He had 3 years on appointment.
Based on what Lee Hoos was earning, I’d say CEO is equivalent to a Partner level at the Big 4…not a 20 year partner (agree they’d earn far more), but a 5 year partner.
Nourry will be on a lot less than Hoos, but still at an experienced Director or 1-2 year Partner level. That would be my guess. Not bad after 3 years as a recruitment consultant. |
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Reply | MC has got to go
at 14:11 13 Nov 2024
You aren’t reading what myself, Benny, Clive, and Simply Nico are posting. Read SimplyNico’s post above.
“Managing Partner” in a 3 person recruitment consultancy does not mean he is successful yet.
No one is criticising him because he is posh - I would probably be described by many as posh - not because he is young, but because he is inexperienced!
It’s obvious the club did no due diligence because when they appointed him they said he had spent half a decade advising major European football clubs. That isn’t true. It has been debunked by Simply Nico using quotes from Nourry himself and following his full time education history. |
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Reply | MC has got to go
at 13:51 13 Nov 2024
It’s a 3 person company. They began as a recruitment consultancy in the non-playing side of football. Ignore the titles. In a small start up you can call yourself whatever you like.
They have some impressive club badges on their website but you and I don’t know exactly what they did. Hire some fitness coaches? Advise the Board? We know the above about their company. They are tiny.
They did an audit on QPR. He did it. Not a large team of consultants beneath him.
You can believe he was at a Partner level of the Big 4 if you want, but I think you are MILES off the mark there. A couple of close friends are partners at the Big 4. It takes 10-15 years of solid career experience to get there whether you work up through them or parachute in from the private or state sector.
3 years as a recruitment consultant, even for some big football clubs, would not cut it. |
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Reply | MC has got to go
at 13:43 13 Nov 2024
James, that is a ludicrous assertion. Are you aware of the experience levels required to reach Director or Partner level at the Big 4?
Nourry had 3 years of career experience when he was appointed CEO, and a maximum of 2 years when he began the audit at QPR.
Retexo, I believe, employed only a handful of people. He wasn’t the Founder and Leader. He also performed the audit, doing the leg work, just like an Associate would at the Big 4.
At a push, he might have been at the Senior Associate or Manager level. To suggest Director or Partner level is silly. |
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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 21:30 12 Nov 2024
They should be mutually exclusive. Only the incredibly and stupidly short term focused would disagree. |
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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 18:16 12 Nov 2024
There needs to be some quite vocal messaging at the Stoke home game.
We need to get a message to the club.
Back Marti
Sack Nourry. |
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Reply | Now it ´s started, Gregory Vignal
at 16:23 12 Nov 2024
Nourry is the founder of that site. It’s a tinpot website that operates under one of those entities I mentioned the other day.
He’s leaking stuff to his own website about his own manager. This is the type of person in charge of our club. Beggars belief.
And as I said the other day, the only Head Coach that will come here is a terrible one keen on a payday, and the only one Nourry will hire is a puppet he can control and direct.
It’s been said before but we have an unqualified, inexperienced, 27 yr old trying to play football manager with out club…and failing badly. |
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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 11:10 12 Nov 2024
It’s insecurity and fear of scrutiny dressed up as business smarts. That’s all. Hardly surprising for a 27 yr old with about 4-5 years of career experience finding himself in a very visible CEO role. |
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Reply | Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out
at 07:27 12 Nov 2024
Yes, but this precise situation is ridiculous, isn’t it?
Last year the club wheel Ben Williams out at the fans forum, make him front and centre, and laud ip our injury record as we go through the season. Fair’s fair, it was bloody good and played a big part in keeping us up.
Now, Nourry won’t say if he’s still working with QPR or departed. At the fans forum he told fans Williams was still working for the club, just based on Dubai, and we were unhappy with the Net’s announcement. It’s all in Clive’s write up.
However, reality is he’s certainly not physically working at the club (quite important for the Head of Performance of a football club), and several are saying that he has left and others have taken over his responsibility. If so, did Nourry lie? And who hired these new staff? When? Is there a Head of Performance/Fitness accountable for our overall fitness and injury record? These are basics of management. If he has a group of people now doing Williams’ role but no one is overall accountable he’s making one of the most basic mistakes of organisational structure. So he’s accountable. Our fitness and injury record are terrible this season.
He’s lost a key member of staff, lied about it and sounds like he’s bodged the replacement, and whatever he’s done we have the worst injury record in the league…seriously impacting our competitiveness on the pitch.
You can’t take the credit and promote how great we are in this area when it’s going well, and then not take the blame/criticism when, quite soon after, it’s going terribly and we’re the worst. |
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