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Sadly I think they'll both go. They have shown this season great defensive abilities now and become less risk taking in possession. A number of clubs in this division with ambition and more financial clout will already have sounded them out.
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Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 14:52 - Nov 5 with 1269 views
Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 14:36 - Nov 5 by heatwave
Sadly I think they'll both go. They have shown this season great defensive abilities now and become less risk taking in possession. A number of clubs in this division with ambition and more financial clout will already have sounded them out.
Contrary to what some will have you believe, they have both improved considerably under Luke Williams.
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Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 15:02 - Nov 5 with 1248 views
Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 14:52 - Nov 5 by jack247
Contrary to what some will have you believe, they have both improved considerably under Luke Williams.
Some posters take dislikes to certain players and managers ability. Once that dislike is in place it's seems hard to shift. Any improvements they make is just not accepted by them. As I state it's some posters and not all of them.
Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 13:18 - Nov 5 by Boundy
Shouldn't be in this position to have to choose one ,disgusting again by the yanks it no suprise.
We aren’t though, it’s just a question as to what you’d prefer. Our preferences won’t make any difference whatsoever. Saying that, I can’t answer it as they’ve both got their strengths. I possibly woukd buck the trend and say Darling but it’s close.
Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 15:06 - Nov 5 by heatwave
Some posters take dislikes to certain players and managers ability. Once that dislike is in place it's seems hard to shift. Any improvements they make is just not accepted by them. As I state it's some posters and not all of them.
Well,I’m not as impressed with Lukey as some. Furthermore,O don’t really see how the players mentioned here have improved “ considerably” In the case of Cabango, Martin virtually ruined him by playing him in an unnatural position and his game suffered . Darlings biggest issue can be a tendency to be overdramic . However, I had him down as a possible replacement for the captains armband . I appreciate many arms now experienced increased BP at the thought of it but hey ho.
Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 15:02 - Nov 5 by Fireboy2
If there is 'neither' I would select that.
Put this in perspective. We are not picking between them for one to be sold and raise money. We are not choosing between them as possible signings. They are both first team starters for us and playing extremely well. We have not offered them the going rate for players in their position and unless we do both will leave. How is this possibly deemed as acceptable in anyone's opinion. Just pay the money, we have nobody close to being good enough to step up and replace them. We will have to spend money to replace them and the overall package will probably cost more than just paying them. We are in a ridiculous situation again by the club having no knowledge of how to run a professional football club in the UK. A skill set from the USA is clearly not transferable.
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Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 16:00 - Nov 5 with 1153 views
Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 15:35 - Nov 5 by Whiterockin
Put this in perspective. We are not picking between them for one to be sold and raise money. We are not choosing between them as possible signings. They are both first team starters for us and playing extremely well. We have not offered them the going rate for players in their position and unless we do both will leave. How is this possibly deemed as acceptable in anyone's opinion. Just pay the money, we have nobody close to being good enough to step up and replace them. We will have to spend money to replace them and the overall package will probably cost more than just paying them. We are in a ridiculous situation again by the club having no knowledge of how to run a professional football club in the UK. A skill set from the USA is clearly not transferable.
That explanation is spot on, most of us see it but the frightening thing is our owners, even though they have 8 years of experience at running a football club can't or should I say won't.
It is that simple that they don't give a flying f@#% about the club or its fans all they care about is money.
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Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 16:13 - Nov 5 with 1115 views
Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 15:06 - Nov 5 by heatwave
Some posters take dislikes to certain players and managers ability. Once that dislike is in place it's seems hard to shift. Any improvements they make is just not accepted by them. As I state it's some posters and not all of them.
You’re absolutely correct
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Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 16:17 - Nov 5 with 1112 views
Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 16:00 - Nov 5 by Fireboy2
That explanation is spot on, most of us see it but the frightening thing is our owners, even though they have 8 years of experience at running a football club can't or should I say won't.
It is that simple that they don't give a flying f@#% about the club or its fans all they care about is money.
Our problem is other clubs will see this as well. Available in 6 months on a free, so pay £1.5M signing on fee over a 3 year contract £10K a week plus £10K a week and they get £20K a week wages. The new club has no immediate outlay and has an asset worth more than the total value of the contract over 3 years. It's absolutely insane our owners can't see this, just give them the money and a 3 year contract and we have a saleable asset for no outlay. It's probably too late for us now as it's gone to far.
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Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 16:21 - Nov 5 with 1094 views
Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 15:35 - Nov 5 by Whiterockin
Put this in perspective. We are not picking between them for one to be sold and raise money. We are not choosing between them as possible signings. They are both first team starters for us and playing extremely well. We have not offered them the going rate for players in their position and unless we do both will leave. How is this possibly deemed as acceptable in anyone's opinion. Just pay the money, we have nobody close to being good enough to step up and replace them. We will have to spend money to replace them and the overall package will probably cost more than just paying them. We are in a ridiculous situation again by the club having no knowledge of how to run a professional football club in the UK. A skill set from the USA is clearly not transferable.
Only thing I’d disagree with is it will cost more to replace them. Our owners won’t spend it on our players, they won’t spend the equivalent amount on anyone else.
They’ll just replace with far cheaper, almost certainly inferior, players.
Everything else you’ve said is bang on
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Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 17:11 - Nov 5 with 1032 views
Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 13:18 - Nov 5 by Boundy
Shouldn't be in this position to have to choose one ,disgusting again by the yanks it no suprise.
Darling it appears wants to move on according to other posters. Nothing the US people can do about that and it is not disgusting. They can sell him in January of other teams see him as a relatively cheap way of helping in a promotion push or avoiding relegation.
Luton had cash and preferred McGuiness over both the Swansea players. No one has made an offer for either of them. They are only worth what someone will pay and at present that is £0.
Swansea will offer the " going rate" for businesses losing £100k a week. Sadly Stoke have frequently paid over the going rate and had £150m debts with not much to show for it. Move on on in January and play Abbey Christie or Petersen.
Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 19:30 - Nov 5 by ReslovenSwan1
Darling it appears wants to move on according to other posters. Nothing the US people can do about that and it is not disgusting. They can sell him in January of other teams see him as a relatively cheap way of helping in a promotion push or avoiding relegation.
Luton had cash and preferred McGuiness over both the Swansea players. No one has made an offer for either of them. They are only worth what someone will pay and at present that is £0.
Swansea will offer the " going rate" for businesses losing £100k a week. Sadly Stoke have frequently paid over the going rate and had £150m debts with not much to show for it. Move on on in January and play Abbey Christie or Petersen.
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Do not take the bait people.
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Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 19:39 - Nov 5 with 845 views
Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 19:30 - Nov 5 by ReslovenSwan1
Darling it appears wants to move on according to other posters. Nothing the US people can do about that and it is not disgusting. They can sell him in January of other teams see him as a relatively cheap way of helping in a promotion push or avoiding relegation.
Luton had cash and preferred McGuiness over both the Swansea players. No one has made an offer for either of them. They are only worth what someone will pay and at present that is £0.
Swansea will offer the " going rate" for businesses losing £100k a week. Sadly Stoke have frequently paid over the going rate and had £150m debts with not much to show for it. Move on on in January and play Abbey Christie or Petersen.
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Bristol City made an offer in the summer. Cabango not.
Christie is unproven, as is Abbey. Pedersen is a dead duck.
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A great believer in taking anything you like to wherever you want to.
Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 19:34 - Nov 5 by Fireboy2
Do not take the bait people.
Mind your own business. My post like all my posts are my legitimate opinions which I am prepared to debate WITH ANYONE. My views are as good as yours. Stop you crude attempts of ad hoc censorship. When debate end the forum ends up dull as dishwater.
I make mistakes occasionally. I thought Robert Maxwell was lost at sea.
Ben V Harry who would you pick for a new contract if we could only afford one? on 19:44 - Nov 5 by ReslovenSwan1
Mind your own business. My post like all my posts are my legitimate opinions which I am prepared to debate WITH ANYONE. My views are as good as yours. Stop you crude attempts of ad hoc censorship. When debate end the forum ends up dull as dishwater.
I make mistakes occasionally. I thought Robert Maxwell was lost at sea.
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It’s a regular occurrence and very tedious Keep your views coming Res I might not agree but yours are as valid as anyone’s It’s an example of the know all ,hard travelling ,super loyal ,superfan
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