| Slavery reparation 18:38 - Oct 24 with 5037 views | johnlangy |
It's all the rage at the moment so I have a thought.
The idea would be that the UK government would fund this in whatever way it was agreed whether that be simply loads of money or development investment in those countries or whatever.
It's fair to say that very few people in the UK benefited from the slave trade when it existed. A small number of families made absolute fortunes while the vast bulk of the population got nothing out of it.
But then the government agreed to provide compensation to those slave owners to make up for their 'loss of earnings' from the vile trade when it was abolished.
So they borrowed £20 million to provide that compo and we have been paying back that debt for the last 200 years (until 2015). That £20 million, allowing for inflation, would now equate to £16/17 billion.
So rather than saying we should all pay reparation why not make those families pay it all back. Let's say £50 billion. Sounds a nice number to me.
And if it was argued that in some small way we all benefited from the trade then it could be said that we've already paid our dues because the £16/17 billion came out of ordinary peoples taxes. |  | | |  |
| Slavery reparation on 09:15 - Nov 3 with 478 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Slavery reparation on 06:02 - Nov 3 by felixstowe_jack |
Killy loves the EU he wants independence for Scotland and Wales only to surrender it to the undemocratic EU.
As spock would say "it is not logical captain " |
Whats not logical is fighting 2 world wars for peace and influence in Europe and then walking away from it.
Welsh and European is our future.
Isolationism has already failed and eaten Johnson. |  |
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| Slavery reparation on 16:12 - Nov 3 with 423 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Slavery reparation on 09:15 - Nov 3 by Kilkennyjack |
Whats not logical is fighting 2 world wars for peace and influence in Europe and then walking away from it.
Welsh and European is our future.
Isolationism has already failed and eaten Johnson. |
Leaving the EU wasn't about isolationism and only the ignorant or thise with agendas say so. The UK will always trade with the rest of the world, we need to, it's not a choice.
We are not self sustaining and amongst all the other things we need, there's immigrants too, we'll always need a certain amount of immigration.
Isolationism, utter nonsense. | | | |
| Slavery reparation on 20:05 - Nov 3 with 385 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Slavery reparation on 16:12 - Nov 3 by SullutaCreturned |
Leaving the EU wasn't about isolationism and only the ignorant or thise with agendas say so. The UK will always trade with the rest of the world, we need to, it's not a choice.
We are not self sustaining and amongst all the other things we need, there's immigrants too, we'll always need a certain amount of immigration.
Isolationism, utter nonsense. |
The point that kilky often fails to comprehend is that we don’t need to be in a political/financial/security/trade etc union with Europe to be able to work with them in a positive way.
I think isolationism in his mind looks like North Korea where the drawbridge is pulled up and you’re removed from the world. |  |
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| Slavery reparation on 20:15 - Nov 3 with 382 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Slavery reparation on 20:05 - Nov 3 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The point that kilky often fails to comprehend is that we don’t need to be in a political/financial/security/trade etc union with Europe to be able to work with them in a positive way.
I think isolationism in his mind looks like North Korea where the drawbridge is pulled up and you’re removed from the world. |
The irony is that he'd rejoin the EU even if it meant a hard border with England and we (Wales) do much more trade with England than anybody else, even all 27 EU states.
The EU is about protectionism but they serve 2 members above all others, Germany and France because they run the show. All across the EU arguments rage about immigration, border controls, finances, it's like Kilky thinks it Utopia over there. | | | |
| Slavery reparation on 22:16 - Nov 3 with 358 views | Luther27 |
Reparation?…..just say no. | | | |
| Slavery reparation on 22:18 - Nov 3 with 355 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Slavery reparation on 20:15 - Nov 3 by SullutaCreturned |
The irony is that he'd rejoin the EU even if it meant a hard border with England and we (Wales) do much more trade with England than anybody else, even all 27 EU states.
The EU is about protectionism but they serve 2 members above all others, Germany and France because they run the show. All across the EU arguments rage about immigration, border controls, finances, it's like Kilky thinks it Utopia over there. |
The argument for Welsh independence is exactly the same argument as the brexit argument. Self determination, make our own laws have accountability sitting with our own elected representatives etc.
They are just too dumb to see it. | |
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| Slavery reparation on 10:20 - Nov 4 with 314 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Slavery reparation on 22:18 - Nov 3 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The argument for Welsh independence is exactly the same argument as the brexit argument. Self determination, make our own laws have accountability sitting with our own elected representatives etc.
They are just too dumb to see it. |
Except of course the people who want Welsh independence then want to surrender it to the undemocratic EU.
Fortunately only 20% of the Welsh population want independence. The rest agree we are better of as part of the UK. | |
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| Slavery reparation on 11:25 - Nov 4 with 291 views | onehunglow |
| Slavery reparation on 10:20 - Nov 4 by felixstowe_jack |
Except of course the people who want Welsh independence then want to surrender it to the undemocratic EU.
Fortunately only 20% of the Welsh population want independence. The rest agree we are better of as part of the UK. |
Depends where in Wales one lives
In parts of Gwynedd I reckon 90% are separatists
In the Gwent valleys and Townhill , zero | |
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| Slavery reparation on 19:43 - Nov 9 with 219 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Slavery reparation on 20:15 - Nov 3 by SullutaCreturned |
The irony is that he'd rejoin the EU even if it meant a hard border with England and we (Wales) do much more trade with England than anybody else, even all 27 EU states.
The EU is about protectionism but they serve 2 members above all others, Germany and France because they run the show. All across the EU arguments rage about immigration, border controls, finances, it's like Kilky thinks it Utopia over there. |
The EU union is modern and inclusive, everyone wants to join.
The UK is a tired old union, dominated by England, nobody wants to join.
Worse England does not want Cymru, Scotland or the north of Ireland to be able to leave.
Englush Nationalists like Mogg, Johnson and Farage wanted to avoid EU tax reform.
The hard of thinking believed their lies.
Nothing to do with anything else. | |
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| Slavery reparation on 19:56 - Nov 9 with 209 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Slavery reparation on 19:43 - Nov 9 by Kilkennyjack |
The EU union is modern and inclusive, everyone wants to join.
The UK is a tired old union, dominated by England, nobody wants to join.
Worse England does not want Cymru, Scotland or the north of Ireland to be able to leave.
Englush Nationalists like Mogg, Johnson and Farage wanted to avoid EU tax reform.
The hard of thinking believed their lies.
Nothing to do with anything else. |
Been here before, the EU enabled corporations to avoid billions in tax and tried to reform it but the vested interests vetoed the moves.
Yes the EU is very inclusive which is why they have such an immigration problem that the far right are rising across the continent again.
google.com/search?q=eu+immigration+problems&rlz=1CABVOQ_enGB1130GB1130&oq=EU+immigration+problems&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyCAgBEAAYFhgeMggIAhAAGBYYHjIKCAMQABgPGBYYHjIICAQQABgWGB4yCAgFEAAYFhgeMggIBhAAGBYYHjIICAcQABgWGB4yCAgIEAAYFhgeMg0ICRAAGIYDGIAEGIoF0gEIODkyNWowajeoAgiwAgE&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Let see how the EU reacts when Trump lands big tariffs on ALL imports.
Drakeford wasn't a fan of leaving either but how does Starmer feel? I'm sure you noticed the tories are no longer running the show. | | | |
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