| Simulation 07:42 - Feb 2 with 5204 views | Daley_Lama |
Has yellow cards for simulation been banned from football and if not can anybody recall one given either for or against this season? |  |
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| Simulation on 08:50 - Feb 2 with 3921 views | BartRowou |
Dunno but football is notoriously bad at enforcing its myriad rules. Examples seen at Spotland recently:
Players going off at the nearest exit when subbed.
The six second rule
Failing to retreat ten yards from a free kick
Giving obvious penalties
The ref and linos have a hard job in general but none of the above are that difficult to get right. |  |
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| Simulation on 09:32 - Feb 2 with 3844 views | Ancoats_Blue |
Not banned. Just inconsistent refereeing.
Joe Pritchard (Accy) got a second yellow and sent off for a dive yesterday. |  | | |
| Simulation on 09:34 - Feb 2 with 3832 views | TVOS1907 |
Not banned but fans seem to think everytime an opposing player goes down without being fouled, he must have simulated and as a result, he's a "CHEAT CHEAT CHEAT". |  |
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| Simulation on 09:36 - Feb 2 with 3838 views | Ancoats_Blue |
| Simulation on 08:50 - Feb 2 by BartRowou |
Dunno but football is notoriously bad at enforcing its myriad rules. Examples seen at Spotland recently:
Players going off at the nearest exit when subbed.
The six second rule
Failing to retreat ten yards from a free kick
Giving obvious penalties
The ref and linos have a hard job in general but none of the above are that difficult to get right. |
The only time I’ve seen a ref enforce the “go off at the nearest point” rule was away at Tranmere. First ever game this rule was in place and a Dale player got booked. No leeway given. Fair enough rules are rules. I thought if that’s the standard this season some of the petty time wasting might dry up.
Wrong. As the season has wore on (and the rule had become common knowledge with players/managers/refs) I’ve seen the usual piss taking and players wasting time on subs. No cards. | | | |
| Simulation on 09:39 - Feb 2 with 3831 views | SandyDrum |
| Simulation on 09:36 - Feb 2 by Ancoats_Blue |
The only time I’ve seen a ref enforce the “go off at the nearest point” rule was away at Tranmere. First ever game this rule was in place and a Dale player got booked. No leeway given. Fair enough rules are rules. I thought if that’s the standard this season some of the petty time wasting might dry up.
Wrong. As the season has wore on (and the rule had become common knowledge with players/managers/refs) I’ve seen the usual piss taking and players wasting time on subs. No cards. |
It was the Doncaster home game that Morley got booked, and you were the sober one! |  |
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| Simulation on 09:46 - Feb 2 with 3812 views | BartRowou |
| Simulation on 09:36 - Feb 2 by Ancoats_Blue |
The only time I’ve seen a ref enforce the “go off at the nearest point” rule was away at Tranmere. First ever game this rule was in place and a Dale player got booked. No leeway given. Fair enough rules are rules. I thought if that’s the standard this season some of the petty time wasting might dry up.
Wrong. As the season has wore on (and the rule had become common knowledge with players/managers/refs) I’ve seen the usual piss taking and players wasting time on subs. No cards. |
Mata did it last night for United. He went off at the Stretford End as they were taking a corner. Thing is, without a bib on, it was confusing as it looked like he was part of play. They didn't really think this one through at FIFA HQ. [Post edited 2 Feb 2020 9:48]
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| Simulation on 09:50 - Feb 2 with 3801 views | Daley_Lama |
| Simulation on 09:32 - Feb 2 by Ancoats_Blue |
Not banned. Just inconsistent refereeing.
Joe Pritchard (Accy) got a second yellow and sent off for a dive yesterday. |
Cheers, one ref bothered with it at least.
It seems to me a rule rare enforced and i wasn’t asking in particular reference to yesterday (No 9 had a go at it a bit) - more a general view on this season as a whole.
Equally, i know ours can do it too. | |
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| Simulation on 10:14 - Feb 2 with 3750 views | Ancoats_Blue |
| Simulation on 09:34 - Feb 2 by TVOS1907 |
Not banned but fans seem to think everytime an opposing player goes down without being fouled, he must have simulated and as a result, he's a "CHEAT CHEAT CHEAT". |
True. It’s a contact sport after all. I think some of the “cheat” stuff is pure pantomime from most rather that a genuine belief in cheating.
With that all said there has been a creeping of play acting in the game in the last 5 -10 years. Players rolling around holding their faces after losing out in a tackle. That’s simulation and I’d say trying to con a ref that you have a head injury. Needs a booking or it keeps happening. | | | |
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| Simulation on 10:16 - Feb 2 with 3743 views | Ancoats_Blue |
| Simulation on 09:39 - Feb 2 by SandyDrum |
It was the Doncaster home game that Morley got booked, and you were the sober one! |
You may be right. Still, I’ve only seen one booking. Yet I’ve witnessed multiple offences live and on Tv with Dale and other sides involved. Inconsistent. | | | |
| Simulation on 10:19 - Feb 2 with 3732 views | SuddenLad |
Foul throws and 'stealing' 10 yards to throw it.
Very rarely enforced. Even when refs tell players to 'go back', instead of throwing it from where they are, they merely use it as the point to start their run before launching it and nick another 10 yards in doing so. |  |
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| Simulation on 10:53 - Feb 2 with 3680 views | KenBoon |
Players appear to have accepted this as part of the game. I understand players who play for a defender to do something stupid rather than try to score, but they're usually still fouled, so I would say that's clever play. The clowns who dive and are staring at the referee/flapping their hands about seem to get told to 'get up' rather than booked. Our own players do this a lot (Camps is a particular master of this). |  | | |
| Simulation on 11:02 - Feb 2 with 3658 views | DaleiLama |
| Simulation on 08:50 - Feb 2 by BartRowou |
Dunno but football is notoriously bad at enforcing its myriad rules. Examples seen at Spotland recently:
Players going off at the nearest exit when subbed.
The six second rule
Failing to retreat ten yards from a free kick
Giving obvious penalties
The ref and linos have a hard job in general but none of the above are that difficult to get right. |
Yesterday, there was a clear case of the ball being kicked by one of our players and deflecting into touch. Lino flagged throw in to us and ref, who was closer but with a worse view than the lino, gave a throw to them and didn't even look at the lino. 4th official just stood there with his hands in his pockets. Grim. |  |
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| Simulation on 11:16 - Feb 2 with 3646 views | Daley_Lama |
| Simulation on 11:02 - Feb 2 by DaleiLama |
Yesterday, there was a clear case of the ball being kicked by one of our players and deflecting into touch. Lino flagged throw in to us and ref, who was closer but with a worse view than the lino, gave a throw to them and didn't even look at the lino. 4th official just stood there with his hands in his pockets. Grim. |
The main stand went mental at that one, could actually hear it in the TDS. | |
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| Simulation on 11:16 - Feb 2 with 3638 views | dingdangblue |
Not sure who it was, but one of our players in the 2nd half on the left side (might have been RND) was running away from his man and got pulled back by his shirt. Free kick given but I thought that was always a yellow card foul? Certainly one so obvious. |  |
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| Simulation on 11:20 - Feb 2 with 3629 views | 1949er |
Did simulation happen before foreign players were introduced?. | |
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| Simulation on 11:26 - Feb 2 with 3613 views | TVOS1907 |
| Simulation on 11:16 - Feb 2 by dingdangblue |
Not sure who it was, but one of our players in the 2nd half on the left side (might have been RND) was running away from his man and got pulled back by his shirt. Free kick given but I thought that was always a yellow card foul? Certainly one so obvious. |
Pulling back someone by their shirt has never been a mandatory yellow card offence. | |
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| Simulation on 11:26 - Feb 2 with 3612 views | dingdangblue |
| Simulation on 11:20 - Feb 2 by 1949er |
Did simulation happen before foreign players were introduced?. |
Franny Lee
Steve Whitehall 😉 | |
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| Simulation on 11:27 - Feb 2 with 3611 views | TVOS1907 |
| Simulation on 11:16 - Feb 2 by Daley_Lama |
The main stand went mental at that one, could actually hear it in the TDS. |
It even woke most of them up! | |
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| Simulation on 11:37 - Feb 2 with 3588 views | D_Alien |
| Simulation on 11:27 - Feb 2 by TVOS1907 |
It even woke most of them up! |
Not me |  |
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| Simulation on 11:39 - Feb 2 with 3585 views | D_Alien |
| Simulation on 10:14 - Feb 2 by Ancoats_Blue |
True. It’s a contact sport after all. I think some of the “cheat” stuff is pure pantomime from most rather that a genuine belief in cheating.
With that all said there has been a creeping of play acting in the game in the last 5 -10 years. Players rolling around holding their faces after losing out in a tackle. That’s simulation and I’d say trying to con a ref that you have a head injury. Needs a booking or it keeps happening. |
Simulating a belief it was cheating! | |
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| Simulation on 11:41 - Feb 2 with 3583 views | BartRowou |
| Simulation on 11:02 - Feb 2 by DaleiLama |
Yesterday, there was a clear case of the ball being kicked by one of our players and deflecting into touch. Lino flagged throw in to us and ref, who was closer but with a worse view than the lino, gave a throw to them and didn't even look at the lino. 4th official just stood there with his hands in his pockets. Grim. |
When I'm reffing kids' matches and I'm not sure, I turn away as though it's the most obvious decision in the world and just wait for the ones nearest the action to assume their positions. It nearly always sorts itself out.
On the few occasions where it doesn't, I inform the team that feels hard done by that I'll give them the next one I'm not sure about. It's like VAR without the time delays. | |
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| Simulation on 12:00 - Feb 2 with 3542 views | 442Dale |
| Simulation on 11:41 - Feb 2 by BartRowou |
When I'm reffing kids' matches and I'm not sure, I turn away as though it's the most obvious decision in the world and just wait for the ones nearest the action to assume their positions. It nearly always sorts itself out.
On the few occasions where it doesn't, I inform the team that feels hard done by that I'll give them the next one I'm not sure about. It's like VAR without the time delays. |
BARt = the future. |  |
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| Simulation on 12:24 - Feb 2 with 3503 views | D_Dale |
| Simulation on 11:20 - Feb 2 by 1949er |
Did simulation happen before foreign players were introduced?. |
In the 1954-56 seasons Eric Gemmell used to go down like a felled tree, with the crowd shouting 'timber' to encourage him. Joe Lynn took the penalties (11 scored in those two seasons - though I'm not saying all were 'won' by Gemmell). | | | |
| Simulation on 19:32 - Feb 2 with 3342 views | Shun |
| Simulation on 09:34 - Feb 2 by TVOS1907 |
Not banned but fans seem to think everytime an opposing player goes down without being fouled, he must have simulated and as a result, he's a "CHEAT CHEAT CHEAT". |
As happened yesterday with Cummings. He went down in the box due to a (fair) challenge, didn’t look for a penalty, but was immediately subjected to boos and ‘cheat’ chants. |  | | |
| Simulation on 20:53 - Feb 2 with 3267 views | EllDale |
I don’t think that Billy Rudd was averse to falling over in the penalty area at times. | | | |
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