| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here 19:22 - Dec 29 with 36280 views | Darran |
Are you aware of the intricate details of what Birch said about the academy today (below) and were aware of what he was going to say about the academy in today’s matchday programme?
A lot has been mentioned on forums and social media about the future direction of our Academy. As I have stated previously, we continue to keep all aspects of our operations, not just the Academy, under review as we adapt to the restrictive financial life outside the Premier League. Once we have the transfer window out of the way I will provide supporters with a further update.
My aim is to remain open, honest and regular in my communications to supporters, whether it’s good or not so good news. But we need to get through January and complete ongoing reviews first, before I can properly update you. So please bear with me a little longer. |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:16 - Jan 1 with 1709 views | Cooperman |
Correct.
Come on Wayne, wake up and smell the coffee. |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:17 - Jan 1 with 1703 views | Cooperman |
What do you mean by ‘privileged seats’? | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:25 - Jan 1 with 1686 views | exiledclaseboy |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:17 - Jan 1 by Cooperman |
What do you mean by ‘privileged seats’? |
Directors’ box I assume. |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:27 - Jan 1 with 1683 views | Cooperman |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:25 - Jan 1 by exiledclaseboy |
Directors’ box I assume. |
I’m trying to determine if it’s deemed to be a perk for your Trust colleagues (which I don’t believe it is). | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:34 - Jan 1 with 1925 views | exiledclaseboy |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:27 - Jan 1 by Cooperman |
I’m trying to determine if it’s deemed to be a perk for your Trust colleagues (which I don’t believe it is). |
I’ve never been in there and no intention of doing so but I can genuinely say that I don’t believe the four people who currently attend (not all at the same time I hasten to add) see it as a “perk”. | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:39 - Jan 1 with 1910 views | Dr_Winston |
Surely if people expect the Trust to be considered an equal part of the management and decision making process of the club, then a presence in the directors box during games is pretty much essential? |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:40 - Jan 1 with 1907 views | Cooperman |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:39 - Jan 1 by Dr_Winston |
Surely if people expect the Trust to be considered an equal part of the management and decision making process of the club, then a presence in the directors box during games is pretty much essential? |
I agree. | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:48 - Jan 1 with 1884 views | thornabyswan |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:40 - Jan 1 by Cooperman |
I agree. |
I would if we had transparent owners.
But this lot are leading the Trust on a merry dance.
It should go to a members vote |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:49 - Jan 1 with 1882 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:39 - Jan 1 by Dr_Winston |
Surely if people expect the Trust to be considered an equal part of the management and decision making process of the club, then a presence in the directors box during games is pretty much essential? |
Of course it is.
When (if?) legal action is launched it will be interesting to see the reaction of the club to the Trust Director. Will they try to ban him from attending meetings and taking a seat in the directors‘ box? Still legally entitled to those things I would say. Will they cut off all contact with a 21% shareholder? It may be a time for the Trust Director to be as bloody minded as possible and to attend everything he is entitled to attend. He will need to be strong. |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:58 - Jan 1 with 1859 views | 3swan |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:49 - Jan 1 by Joe_bradshaw |
Of course it is.
When (if?) legal action is launched it will be interesting to see the reaction of the club to the Trust Director. Will they try to ban him from attending meetings and taking a seat in the directors‘ box? Still legally entitled to those things I would say. Will they cut off all contact with a 21% shareholder? It may be a time for the Trust Director to be as bloody minded as possible and to attend everything he is entitled to attend. He will need to be strong. |
With potentially a courts case in the future the Trust has to be seen to be playing by the rules and not building walls, whether we agree or not is another matter | | | |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 11:02 - Jan 1 with 1852 views | Phil_S |
Sorry just catching up this morning so will pick up on the first few points.
In terms of your first question, I would say a positive if I was to reflect fully. However, increasing my attendance I don't think would add benefits unless attendance was for a specific reason. Largely over my tenure on the board I have been reluctant to attend too often unless there was specific reasons for doing so. This season was specific reasons and - especially with a new man at the helm - there was a benefit to doing so although it is fair to say that on matchday the chances to discuss anything in huge depth are limited but definitely the chance to set up those discussions if appropriate. I also think it can serve as a good reminder of the presence of the Trust something that certain people clearly forgot in a key period of our history.
On your questions on a paragraph 5. I probably wasn't clear enough in my full belief so apologies - I do believe there should be a case in point for Trust reps to attend the board but when there is a specific need. If for example at the next home game there was nothing of importance that required an attendance then don't take it up. I do believe that is different for Stuart but - as I alluded to - the other three who may also attend have done so with key aims to achieve from that. Contrary to any belief, the experience is generally not that enjoyable for any football fan. That I guess is why I say it is a duty to attend (i.e. when required) rather than a privilege/perk.
I take your point as two people attending but I retain a belief that this should only happen if there is a specific need or an aim to get something out of it.
In terms of stuart's weekly visit then I believe (from what he and others have suggested) that he has an open door to all of the management team at the stadium (outside naturaly of Steve Cooper and his team which isn't something we should have) He is normally sent in with some key questions to ask beyond the day to day things 0=- for example this week would have been the post about the lad and his grandfather and also he is working on comms for the increased (it seems) checking of tickets in the North East corner. In terms of work for the trust there isn't a single person on the board who puts more into it than Stuart and he is a big believer in a strong relationship at local level which we have tried to separate completely from the legal case that is building in the background |  | | |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 11:19 - Jan 1 with 1821 views | Swanjaxs |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 10:39 - Jan 1 by Dr_Winston |
Surely if people expect the Trust to be considered an equal part of the management and decision making process of the club, then a presence in the directors box during games is pretty much essential? |
An equal part of the club...
The same Trust that was excluded from any discussion about the sale of the club they represent?
Keep the Americans at arms length would be my advice 👠|  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 11:21 - Jan 1 with 1817 views | Phil_S |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 11:19 - Jan 1 by Swanjaxs |
An equal part of the club...
The same Trust that was excluded from any discussion about the sale of the club they represent?
Keep the Americans at arms length would be my advice 👠|
Given they have only attended one game this season then they couldn't be at any more arms length then they already are  | | | |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 11:25 - Jan 1 with 1797 views | Swanjaxs |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 11:21 - Jan 1 by Phil_S |
Given they have only attended one game this season then they couldn't be at any more arms length then they already are |
Fair ðŸ‘
Ok then
Keep the puppet master Birch at arms length | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 11:27 - Jan 1 with 1792 views | Badlands |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 11:21 - Jan 1 by Phil_S |
Given they have only attended one game this season then they couldn't be at any more arms length then they already are |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 11:31 - Jan 1 with 1785 views | Uxbridge |
This. And this is where I bow out on this one. It seems someone thinks they can say absolutely anything, without being called out on it, so long as there aren't profanities in it. Which is patently silly. |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 11:34 - Jan 1 with 1776 views | Uxbridge |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 11:02 - Jan 1 by Phil_S |
Sorry just catching up this morning so will pick up on the first few points.
In terms of your first question, I would say a positive if I was to reflect fully. However, increasing my attendance I don't think would add benefits unless attendance was for a specific reason. Largely over my tenure on the board I have been reluctant to attend too often unless there was specific reasons for doing so. This season was specific reasons and - especially with a new man at the helm - there was a benefit to doing so although it is fair to say that on matchday the chances to discuss anything in huge depth are limited but definitely the chance to set up those discussions if appropriate. I also think it can serve as a good reminder of the presence of the Trust something that certain people clearly forgot in a key period of our history.
On your questions on a paragraph 5. I probably wasn't clear enough in my full belief so apologies - I do believe there should be a case in point for Trust reps to attend the board but when there is a specific need. If for example at the next home game there was nothing of importance that required an attendance then don't take it up. I do believe that is different for Stuart but - as I alluded to - the other three who may also attend have done so with key aims to achieve from that. Contrary to any belief, the experience is generally not that enjoyable for any football fan. That I guess is why I say it is a duty to attend (i.e. when required) rather than a privilege/perk.
I take your point as two people attending but I retain a belief that this should only happen if there is a specific need or an aim to get something out of it.
In terms of stuart's weekly visit then I believe (from what he and others have suggested) that he has an open door to all of the management team at the stadium (outside naturaly of Steve Cooper and his team which isn't something we should have) He is normally sent in with some key questions to ask beyond the day to day things 0=- for example this week would have been the post about the lad and his grandfather and also he is working on comms for the increased (it seems) checking of tickets in the North East corner. In terms of work for the trust there isn't a single person on the board who puts more into it than Stuart and he is a big believer in a strong relationship at local level which we have tried to separate completely from the legal case that is building in the background |
That last para really is spot on. Stu does a shit ton of stuff and does a very good job IMO. He gets some stick for not being active online, but you won't find someone more active amongst the fan base in person. | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 11:34 - Jan 1 with 1773 views | NotLoyal |
We have a trust that owns over a fifth of the club and has little or no say in anything that matters or happens. All they can hope for is a sniff of the pot when this lot of chancers sell the club on. Again they will have no say in that either. Embarrassing. |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 12:25 - Jan 1 with 1726 views | Phil_S |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 11:34 - Jan 1 by NotLoyal |
We have a trust that owns over a fifth of the club and has little or no say in anything that matters or happens. All they can hope for is a sniff of the pot when this lot of chancers sell the club on. Again they will have no say in that either. Embarrassing. |
Indeed and we all know who made that happen with their collusion yet it seems to be all our fault | | | |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 12:27 - Jan 1 with 1716 views | NotLoyal |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 12:25 - Jan 1 by Phil_S |
Indeed and we all know who made that happen with their collusion yet it seems to be all our fault |
I personally don't believe that's the case though, again my only criticism is the lack of hope regards legal action. | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 12:47 - Jan 1 with 1677 views | BillyChong |
Would we be any further along if the trust hadn’t advised against legal action in the first vote? A glaring error which permanently tarnished fan power IMO. Are the legal bods charging us whilst awaiting a return from sickness/a replacement lawyer? | | | |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 12:57 - Jan 1 with 1663 views | londonlisa2001 |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 12:47 - Jan 1 by BillyChong |
Would we be any further along if the trust hadn’t advised against legal action in the first vote? A glaring error which permanently tarnished fan power IMO. Are the legal bods charging us whilst awaiting a return from sickness/a replacement lawyer? |
As has now been stated three or four times, no one is ‘waiting’ for anything.
There was a short delay but the work is progressing. | | | |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 13:24 - Jan 1 with 1637 views | waynekerr55 |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 12:57 - Jan 1 by londonlisa2001 |
As has now been stated three or four times, no one is ‘waiting’ for anything.
There was a short delay but the work is progressing. |
To give some context- it took me and my neighbours 3.5 years to deal with a poxy Freehold issue (worth 22k). Add in chronic underfunding for the justice system.
Yes, well I wish I'd voted for legal action last time but the past is the past. That said, given the alleged withdrawal of the offer by the Americans now adds in the Trust's favour |  |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 13:26 - Jan 1 with 1628 views | exiledclaseboy |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 13:24 - Jan 1 by waynekerr55 |
To give some context- it took me and my neighbours 3.5 years to deal with a poxy Freehold issue (worth 22k). Add in chronic underfunding for the justice system.
Yes, well I wish I'd voted for legal action last time but the past is the past. That said, given the alleged withdrawal of the offer by the Americans now adds in the Trust's favour |
There’s no alleged withdrawal. That the offer was withdrawn by the owners is a statement of fact. | |
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| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 13:32 - Jan 1 with 1618 views | waynekerr55 |
| FAO Supporters Trust Board Members that post on here on 13:26 - Jan 1 by exiledclaseboy |
There’s no alleged withdrawal. That the offer was withdrawn by the owners is a statement of fact. |
I wanted to be cautious - given that I'm not party to the facts | |
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