| Birch’s programme notes 12:09 - Dec 29 with 29196 views | marchamjack |
Can’t do the linky thing on my phone...thanks in advance to whoever puts them up...if anyone is still in any doubt about Trev being a puppet of the Yanks, have a read 😠|  |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 12:48 - Dec 31 with 1920 views | Vincent_Vega |
| Birch’s programme notes on 21:03 - Dec 30 by londonlisa2001 |
Interesting thread.
My main take on this :
We spent 7 years in the premier league. If we downgrade the academy (and it’s an if, but one that’s been raised by the programme notes so is undoubtedly possible), what exactly do we have to show for the income in excess of half a BILLION pounds we earned during that time.
The stadium isn’t any bigger.
The team will consist of, let’s be honest, mid ranking championship players playing bang average football.
We have an inexperienced manager.
We won’t have a high ranking academy.
We won’t have state of the art training facilities that we own.
We haven’t a new stadium sponsor.
We have a mid level kit supplier and mid level sponsors.
We have attendances that are no better than we had in 2010/2011.
We have owners that are disconnected from the fan base and a supporters’ trust that have been left outside in the cold.
It seems to me that all we have to show for the substantial amount of time in the top earning league in the world is a few individuals driving around West Wales in better cars, unable to show their faces in the stadium.
It’s not much of a legacy is it. |
Post of the year that for me.
Very sobering summary and also accurate |  |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 12:54 - Dec 31 with 1896 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Birch’s programme notes on 12:48 - Dec 31 by Vincent_Vega |
Post of the year that for me.
Very sobering summary and also accurate |
It was after watching the largely woeful displays over the Christmas period that I just thought not just how quickly it’s all gone but far more importantly how little there is to show for it. |  | | |
| Birch’s programme notes on 12:54 - Dec 31 with 1903 views | QJumpingJack |
| Birch’s programme notes on 21:03 - Dec 30 by londonlisa2001 |
Interesting thread.
My main take on this :
We spent 7 years in the premier league. If we downgrade the academy (and it’s an if, but one that’s been raised by the programme notes so is undoubtedly possible), what exactly do we have to show for the income in excess of half a BILLION pounds we earned during that time.
The stadium isn’t any bigger.
The team will consist of, let’s be honest, mid ranking championship players playing bang average football.
We have an inexperienced manager.
We won’t have a high ranking academy.
We won’t have state of the art training facilities that we own.
We haven’t a new stadium sponsor.
We have a mid level kit supplier and mid level sponsors.
We have attendances that are no better than we had in 2010/2011.
We have owners that are disconnected from the fan base and a supporters’ trust that have been left outside in the cold.
It seems to me that all we have to show for the substantial amount of time in the top earning league in the world is a few individuals driving around West Wales in better cars, unable to show their faces in the stadium.
It’s not much of a legacy is it. |
Post of the decade.
Lets hope Jason and Steve read it and digest it. | | | |
| Birch’s programme notes on 12:56 - Dec 31 with 1889 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Birch’s programme notes on 12:54 - Dec 31 by QJumpingJack |
Post of the decade.
Lets hope Jason and Steve read it and digest it. |
The sellouts should be ashamed of it. Their treachery has resulted in our current situation. |  |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 13:02 - Dec 31 with 1874 views | Gowerjack |
| Birch’s programme notes on 21:33 - Dec 30 by Swanjaxs |
Agree with all this.
I get the feeling that the next 18 months have the potential to be on a par with the dark days of the Petty fiasco ...
Not be dramatic, just the way I see it going.
Time for the Trust to get their shìt together 😎 |
The Trust.
Everyone who applied to be on the board went on about better communication.
Not even got that right.. |  |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 13:06 - Dec 31 with 1845 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Birch’s programme notes on 13:02 - Dec 31 by Gowerjack |
The Trust.
Everyone who applied to be on the board went on about better communication.
Not even got that right.. |
I’d be happy to give my spot to those who feel they can do better. Genuinely.
Post your names here or PM me and I’ll pass them on. |  |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 13:30 - Dec 31 with 1809 views | TimTtam |
| Birch’s programme notes on 12:46 - Dec 31 by Dr_Winston |
Can't argue with that.
For me the biggest mistakes have been the failure to properly expand the stadium in 2012-13 when we were flying, and the idiocy in appointing Monk alongside completely changing the way we did business as a club.
As always, the most frustrating thing isn't that we had a good spell in the Prem but ultimately struggled to compete, it's that most of our woes have been largely self-inflicted and had our owners been smarter and less greedy we could still have been a Premier League club now. |
Frustrating is the key word there. What an opportunity we had, if we were operated properly:
- 27,000 capacity stadium
- Brendan Rodgers as manager
- Approaching 9 full seasons of playing in the PL
- Cat 1 academy
- State of the art training facilities for the first team and academy
- Our U23s team still being in the PL 2 Division 1 & playing in the EFL Trophy
- Our talented younger players being able to spend time on loan with Championship clubs, as a fallback option if we got relegated
- Excess funds as a fallback option if we got relegated, allowing the Cat 1 academy to stay open for years to come
Then again, it could've been worse. Sunderland are 13th in League 1, and this is their last season of parachute payments. |  |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 13:39 - Dec 31 with 1793 views | Vincent_Vega |
| Birch’s programme notes on 12:54 - Dec 31 by londonlisa2001 |
It was after watching the largely woeful displays over the Christmas period that I just thought not just how quickly it’s all gone but far more importantly how little there is to show for it. |
It's bang on to be fair.
I thought like many that when Sinclair slotted that pen home in Wembley that 'that's it, Swansea City will be safe for a lifetime with all this extra dough.' How wrong was I!
I remember Huw and co saying about building a legacy through the academy programme, new training facilities etc. and once that is done then we can build a squad that can compete in the Premier League. I bought it all hell I got excited at the prospect. How wrong was I!
When they sold out to the Yanks, cashing in as they said they took the club as far as they could when really they knew a legal sh!t storm was on the horizon and that costs were spiralling due to some interesting football and business decisions they made (allegedly) and that the Yanks could take us to 'the next level' I went with it as I thought 'makes sense I suppose' How wrong was I!
Now I do think we're on the way down a la Blackpool, Portsmouth. All thanks to the leadership of previously mentioned board members past and present and well maybe Swansea city is not as safe as I thought when Sinclair put it to Federici's right. Lets hope I'm wrong again... | |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 13:50 - Dec 31 with 1766 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Birch’s programme notes on 13:39 - Dec 31 by Vincent_Vega |
It's bang on to be fair.
I thought like many that when Sinclair slotted that pen home in Wembley that 'that's it, Swansea City will be safe for a lifetime with all this extra dough.' How wrong was I!
I remember Huw and co saying about building a legacy through the academy programme, new training facilities etc. and once that is done then we can build a squad that can compete in the Premier League. I bought it all hell I got excited at the prospect. How wrong was I!
When they sold out to the Yanks, cashing in as they said they took the club as far as they could when really they knew a legal sh!t storm was on the horizon and that costs were spiralling due to some interesting football and business decisions they made (allegedly) and that the Yanks could take us to 'the next level' I went with it as I thought 'makes sense I suppose' How wrong was I!
Now I do think we're on the way down a la Blackpool, Portsmouth. All thanks to the leadership of previously mentioned board members past and present and well maybe Swansea city is not as safe as I thought when Sinclair put it to Federici's right. Lets hope I'm wrong again... |
Hopefully if we get the chance again, we will learn the lessons and make the most of it, putting down foundations to last a generation or two. The amounts involved certainly allow for that, as long as the people in charge make responsible decisions. | | | |
| Birch’s programme notes on 13:56 - Dec 31 with 1764 views | Vincent_Vega |
| Birch’s programme notes on 13:50 - Dec 31 by londonlisa2001 |
Hopefully if we get the chance again, we will learn the lessons and make the most of it, putting down foundations to last a generation or two. The amounts involved certainly allow for that, as long as the people in charge make responsible decisions. |
I hope so to or like you said our legacy will be an extra few flash cars about oh and video advertising hoardings, don't forget them. | |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 14:12 - Dec 31 with 1741 views | SwanDownUnder |
| Birch’s programme notes on 12:06 - Dec 31 by londonlisa2001 |
As has been stated a number of times now, that has not impacted the situation other than for a short time - less than a couple of weeks.
I realise your obvious and sad motivation is seemingly to spend a few days stirring up crap on here, but repeating lies over and over seems a strange way to spend a holiday.
What’s also sad is that so many are willing to jump on the bandwagon.
Several threads criticising the Trust and yet none criticising the actions of those that have caused this. What a time to be a supporter.
Morons. |
you are not a trust representative. | | | |
| Birch’s programme notes on 14:13 - Dec 31 with 1728 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Birch’s programme notes on 14:12 - Dec 31 by SwanDownUnder |
you are not a trust representative. |
Yes she is. She’s finance affiliate to the trust board. | |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 14:25 - Dec 31 with 1705 views | SwanDownUnder |
apologies didnt think she was elected, nice one Ands. | | | |
| Birch’s programme notes on 14:27 - Dec 31 with 1695 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Birch’s programme notes on 14:25 - Dec 31 by SwanDownUnder |
apologies didnt think she was elected, nice one Ands. |
I’m not elected.
But as an affiliate and member of the relevant sub group, I’m aware that the timeline was not affected by more than a week or so. As has been said a few times, which you choose to ignore for some reason. | | | |
| Birch’s programme notes on 14:38 - Dec 31 with 1672 views | SwanDownUnder |
Apologies, its a get out clause unless they respond yes? [Post edited 31 Dec 2019 14:40]
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| Birch’s programme notes on 14:42 - Dec 31 with 1664 views | waynekerr55 |
| Birch’s programme notes on 14:12 - Dec 31 by SwanDownUnder |
you are not a trust representative. |
And you're a great fan... |  |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 15:14 - Dec 31 with 1622 views | Neath_Jack |
| Birch’s programme notes on 13:06 - Dec 31 by exiledclaseboy |
I’d be happy to give my spot to those who feel they can do better. Genuinely.
Post your names here or PM me and I’ll pass them on. |
I'd like to see Chad on there, same as I'd love to have seen the other chap, who i won't mention. Stir the pot up a bit like.
Not in your place though, just to clear that up. |  |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 16:29 - Dec 31 with 1537 views | waynekerr55 |
The Trust have owned up for their failures in the past.
The sellers show zero remorse.
Why do the trust get it in the neck non stop yet the sellers get nothing and have people defending them?
It's a genuine question. | |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 16:36 - Dec 31 with 1517 views | waynekerr55 |
The Trust have owned up for their failures in the past.
The sellers show zero remorse.
Why do the trust get it in the neck non stop yet the sellers get nothing and have people defending them?
It's a genuine question. | |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 16:44 - Dec 31 with 1494 views | Cooperman |
| Birch’s programme notes on 16:29 - Dec 31 by waynekerr55 |
The Trust have owned up for their failures in the past.
The sellers show zero remorse.
Why do the trust get it in the neck non stop yet the sellers get nothing and have people defending them?
It's a genuine question. |
You can say that again! |  |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 16:49 - Dec 31 with 1478 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Birch’s programme notes on 21:20 - Dec 30 by monmouth |
It's actually tragic. but speaks volumes about the tuppeny ha'penny noddy nobodies that contemptuously chucked the club under a coach load of cash. |
You did not waste a word. |  |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 16:50 - Dec 31 with 1467 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Birch’s programme notes on 16:36 - Dec 31 by waynekerr55 |
The Trust have owned up for their failures in the past.
The sellers show zero remorse.
Why do the trust get it in the neck non stop yet the sellers get nothing and have people defending them?
It's a genuine question. |
Yeah but the minutes are out of date on the website. Think of the bigger picture mun. | |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 20:01 - Dec 31 with 1361 views | waynekerr55 |
| Birch’s programme notes on 16:50 - Dec 31 by exiledclaseboy |
Yeah but the minutes are out of date on the website. Think of the bigger picture mun. |
Yeah, silly me. | |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 21:49 - Dec 31 with 1296 views | Fireboy2 |
| Birch’s programme notes on 16:44 - Dec 31 by Cooperman |
You can say that again! |
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| Birch’s programme notes on 11:33 - Jan 1 with 1155 views | hammy |
| Birch’s programme notes on 12:42 - Dec 31 by londonlisa2001 |
Oh I don’t know - a few that have owned this football club have made quite a bit of money...
Any club going up to the premier league with no debt, no high salaries, no huge repayments due on a stadium, and staying there for 7 seasons should, with a bit of good management, have a legacy from that time. |
And how many clubs have achieved this mythical "legacy" status without a very rich sugar daddy backing them ?
The football business model is a basket case and there are no winners without very deep pockets … |  |
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