| Blackpool... 03:23 - Sep 24 with 10875 views | Mistication92 |
What are the odds that McClaren pisses this up the wall, makes 7 changes and we go out limply - ending any real spark in the season until our FA Cup exit in January? |  | | |  |
| Blackpool... on 17:16 - Sep 24 with 3007 views | robith |
@OP
The odds are 11/5 |  | | |
| Blackpool... on 17:23 - Sep 24 with 2996 views | 00calben |
| Blackpool... on 17:14 - Sep 24 by Juzzie |
I think this is a competition we can go reasonably far in without actually winning it. i/e 1/4 or semi's.
In the last 20 years it's been won by a big club on all but 5 occasions and those other 5 were still PL teams.
It's probably been 40-odd years since a non top flight team has won it. |
Agree.
It's been over 20 years since we played in the last 16 of a cup competition. That's almost an entire generation who've never seen anything which can be defined a 'cup run'.
Don't underestimate the importance of this game. It's absolutely massive. |  | | |
| Blackpool... on 17:24 - Sep 24 with 2993 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Blackpool... on 08:32 - Sep 24 by jonno |
Spot on. |
It's not spot on. It's missing the point entirely.
If one team has a good squad and can rotate and keep players fresh, then that squad will be stronger over a season than one that has almost no changes. Back when Forest or Liverpool only used 16 players in a season - so did every other team. The comparison doesn't work.
Wolves have played just 7 times since 11th Aug - and they made 9 changes for their cup tie with Sheff Wed - so that's actually 6 (plus internationals). So he can keep an unchanged side - largely - for now, although that won't last the season. We've played 11 times in that time frame and 7 in August alone.
Burnley have tried to do what they did last year while playing in Europe. And Saturday apart you see where that has got them, and commonly it's believed their small squad has become an issue.
Still, it's definitely correct to say that a largely settled side is a good thing - but winning sides tend to be settled and settled sides tend to be winners (if you kept losing, the side would change). We had a very settled side in our championship year - but we still changed it all for cup games.
It's not really about players being soft or not wanting to play - it's about keeping as many players as possible as fresh and as ready as possible for all games. |  |
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| Blackpool... on 17:28 - Sep 24 with 2989 views | Juzzie |
| Blackpool... on 17:14 - Sep 24 by robith |
In 1981 when Liverpool won the European cup they played 42 league games (finishing 5th) and 5 European cup games
Last year finishing fourth and getting to the CL final they played 38 league games and 15 European ties. In an era where the game is faster and even greater demands are put on players to be athletes pushing themselves to the limit in training vs an age where Liverpool spent half the game passing the ball back to the goalie. Hardly comparable imo |
This is why I spat my tea out laughing when half-a-dozen or so years ago Sky Sports were tugging off the likes of Scholes going on about how amazing they are having played 10 million European cup games compared to the likes of Bobby Charlton.
Had they really no idea that way less games were played back then in the European Cup, just 9 games (4 two-legged rounds + final) if you got to the final.
Now it's 13 (or 15 if you have to pre-qualify as Liverpoll did last season), nigh on double so of course a player like Scholes in a team like Man Utd is going to play more.
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| Blackpool... on 17:35 - Sep 24 with 2973 views | qprd |
Squad rotation is still important, considering some quality young players are getting absolutely no playing time in league competitions.
I'm not suggesting wholesale changes, but BOS and Kakay should start, and Smyth should be available on the bench | | | |
| Blackpool... on 17:59 - Sep 24 with 2942 views | CamberleyR |
| Blackpool... on 17:23 - Sep 24 by 00calben |
Agree.
It's been over 20 years since we played in the last 16 of a cup competition. That's almost an entire generation who've never seen anything which can be defined a 'cup run'.
Don't underestimate the importance of this game. It's absolutely massive. |
Not quite as bad as 20 years. We made the last 16 in the League Cup in 2008 (during one of Gaz Ainsworth's caretaker spells). |  |
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| Blackpool... on 19:58 - Sep 24 with 2901 views | dodge_stoke_r |
| Blackpool... on 17:14 - Sep 24 by Juzzie |
I think this is a competition we can go reasonably far in without actually winning it. i/e 1/4 or semi's.
In the last 20 years it's been won by a big club on all but 5 occasions and those other 5 were still PL teams.
It's probably been 40-odd years since a non top flight team has won it. |
Yes OK. I might have been a tad over optimistic lol. But I'd take the 1/4s or the semi's. And with the teams still in it, it's a possibility |  | | |
| Blackpool... on 21:20 - Sep 24 with 2814 views | Esox_Lucius |
Don't forget Bettache. |  |
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| Blackpool... on 22:01 - Sep 24 with 2771 views | YorkRanger |
Going to flick a coin tomorrow as to whether I go or not. Split between the possibility of making the last 16 and the risk McLaren makes wholesale changes, we donttake it seriously enough and get turned over... |  | | |
| Blackpool... on 22:30 - Sep 24 with 2708 views | CiderwithRsie |
Can I just point out that in the last match we played we were a bit crap, and one or two changes might therefore be a good thing? | | | |
| Blackpool... on 07:47 - Sep 25 with 2616 views | Lancashirehoop |
| Blackpool... on 16:34 - Sep 24 by Esox_Lucius |
It was actually 8 players as nobody knew there were two Morgans and thought it was the same player and he was blindingly fast.  |
This is where the myth of the '67 team starts to unravel. There might have been 9 players as some say there were 2 Springetts as well but they were never seen together at Loftus Road (allegedly). |  |
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| Blackpool... on 08:21 - Sep 25 with 2584 views | Dorse |
| Blackpool... on 17:14 - Sep 24 by Juzzie |
I think this is a competition we can go reasonably far in without actually winning it. i/e 1/4 or semi's.
In the last 20 years it's been won by a big club on all but 5 occasions and those other 5 were still PL teams.
It's probably been 40-odd years since a non top flight team has won it. |
It's very unusual to get a semi at QPR. |  |
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| Blackpool... on 08:27 - Sep 25 with 2579 views | DavieQPR |
Can see 10-11 changes. Will not spend that money to watch the reserves or in any way support the Oystons. Save my money for Swansea. |  | | |
| Blackpool... on 09:56 - Sep 25 with 2523 views | CamberleyR |
| Blackpool... on 17:28 - Sep 24 by Juzzie |
This is why I spat my tea out laughing when half-a-dozen or so years ago Sky Sports were tugging off the likes of Scholes going on about how amazing they are having played 10 million European cup games compared to the likes of Bobby Charlton.
Had they really no idea that way less games were played back then in the European Cup, just 9 games (4 two-legged rounds + final) if you got to the final.
Now it's 13 (or 15 if you have to pre-qualify as Liverpoll did last season), nigh on double so of course a player like Scholes in a team like Man Utd is going to play more.
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And you only got to play in the European Cup by being league champions, not by finishing fourth. | |
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| Blackpool... on 10:23 - Sep 25 with 2499 views | DannyPaddox |
| Blackpool... on 07:47 - Sep 25 by Lancashirehoop |
This is where the myth of the '67 team starts to unravel. There might have been 9 players as some say there were 2 Springetts as well but they were never seen together at Loftus Road (allegedly). |
Another theory is that the Morgan twins were in fact one bloke who went around with a full length mirror.
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| Blackpool... on 14:34 - Sep 25 with 2370 views | SimonJames |
We should win this one 0-2. |  |
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| Blackpool... on 15:49 - Sep 25 with 2315 views | themodfather |
any win, any how..i don't care if we cheat, punch the ball in for a winner anything, just win...a cup run still means something to fans even if the club and players dont give a to55 | | | |
| Blackpool... on 18:47 - Sep 25 with 2220 views | YorkRanger |
Just arrived. Seen the team sheet and bench. Nothing to suggest a cup run is on McLaren's agenda... | | | |
| Blackpool... on 18:55 - Sep 25 with 2182 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Blackpool... on 18:47 - Sep 25 by YorkRanger |
Just arrived. Seen the team sheet and bench. Nothing to suggest a cup run is on McLaren's agenda... |
In his prematch article on the official site he describes the match as "far better than training and under 23s games". Says it all. |  |
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| Blackpool... on 18:56 - Sep 25 with 2174 views | PinnerPaul |
| Blackpool... on 18:55 - Sep 25 by CliveWilsonSaid |
In his prematch article on the official site he describes the match as "far better than training and under 23s games". Says it all. |
Said in the context of players not in the 1st team showing what they are capable of - which is perfectly true! | | | |
| Blackpool... on 18:59 - Sep 25 with 2159 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Blackpool... on 18:56 - Sep 25 by PinnerPaul |
Said in the context of players not in the 1st team showing what they are capable of - which is perfectly true! |
Yes but doesn't say very much about the league cup! | |
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| Blackpool... on 19:13 - Sep 25 with 2112 views | WokingR |
Oh, oh, oh
I've spotted Goss on the bench
What's my prize ? |  | | |
| Blackpool... on 20:34 - Sep 25 with 1979 views | davman |
| Blackpool... on 19:13 - Sep 25 by WokingR |
Oh, oh, oh
I've spotted Goss on the bench
What's my prize ? |
I spotted him on the pitch, what's my prize? |  |
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| Blackpool... on 21:06 - Sep 25 with 1890 views | WokingR |
| Blackpool... on 20:34 - Sep 25 by davman |
I spotted him on the pitch, what's my prize? |
Christ, he's only come on!
Clive owes me a trolley dash and a helicopter ride | | | |
| Blackpool... on 21:46 - Sep 25 with 1790 views | paesanu |
| Blackpool... on 14:34 - Sep 25 by SimonJames |
We should win this one 0-2. |
What's a Blackpool fan doing here |  |
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