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Whats happened to jeff? 23:39 - Jul 8 with 5449 viewsUplandsJack

I see there's already a thread on Baston's absence, but I wanted to know if anyones heard where Montero is hiding at?
Noticed from club images that it looks like he too hadn't returned to training last week, so my question is simply, has he been sold or released Or just injured yet again?
[Post edited 8 Jul 2018 23:45]
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Whats happened to jeff? on 23:43 - Jul 8 with 5442 viewsairedale

Can’t get a visa parantly. Kin ell. YCMIU!
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Whats happened to jeff? on 23:48 - Jul 8 with 5423 viewsBadlands

Potter said there were problems with his visa! Not sure if that was a border issue or his bank card wasn't accepted for the flight back!
Montero hasn't been a success in Europe (this time or the first period he had in Spain) and spent little time the pitch again last season playing.
Write off IMO.

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Whats happened to jeff? on 23:50 - Jul 8 with 5420 viewsjasper_T

Has he been playing enough international fixtures to qualify for a work permit?
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Whats happened to jeff? on 00:43 - Jul 9 with 5365 viewsairedale

So, whatever, the employers still have to pay him. Don’t think so.
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Whats happened to jeff? on 09:14 - Jul 9 with 5180 viewsSwan91

Whats happened to jeff? on 00:43 - Jul 9 by airedale

So, whatever, the employers still have to pay him. Don’t think so.


Well to be fair Swansea chose to send him out on loan, are in charge of his visa. If he is having problems getting another visa.. not his problem, should be down to the club working on that for him as they are most likely classed as his "Sponsor".
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Whats happened to jeff? on 09:21 - Jul 9 with 5161 viewsomarjack

He's been in the club for years now. And now all of a sudden he needs a work permit. What kind of f*ckery is this? He's still contracted to us right? So how did his visa expire?

What kind of bullsh!t laws are these. Having a non-EU criteria (numbers of players limitations like in most of other leagues) is acceptable..But this shIthousery of needing to play X matches with the player's national team in a period of Y years..Unless they have an outie bellybutton then it's ok..and His grandma shouldn't have diabetes and f*ck knows what else. It's just messed up. There are so many talents to discover overseas. Some with big potential who aren't internationals because maybe they're not good enough to play for Brazil,Argentina etc..but could still be really good signings for small clubs like ours.


When Watford signed Richarlison they probably had to bribe who knows who for a work permit..They had to go to court or something to get it done despite not fulfilling the FA criteria. Still they've managed somehow.
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Whats happened to jeff? on 09:21 - Jul 9 with 5162 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Whats happened to jeff? on 09:14 - Jul 9 by Swan91

Well to be fair Swansea chose to send him out on loan, are in charge of his visa. If he is having problems getting another visa.. not his problem, should be down to the club working on that for him as they are most likely classed as his "Sponsor".


Looks like we've taken our eyes off this one.

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Whats happened to jeff? on 09:45 - Jul 9 with 5117 viewsjasper_T

Whats happened to jeff? on 09:21 - Jul 9 by omarjack

He's been in the club for years now. And now all of a sudden he needs a work permit. What kind of f*ckery is this? He's still contracted to us right? So how did his visa expire?

What kind of bullsh!t laws are these. Having a non-EU criteria (numbers of players limitations like in most of other leagues) is acceptable..But this shIthousery of needing to play X matches with the player's national team in a period of Y years..Unless they have an outie bellybutton then it's ok..and His grandma shouldn't have diabetes and f*ck knows what else. It's just messed up. There are so many talents to discover overseas. Some with big potential who aren't internationals because maybe they're not good enough to play for Brazil,Argentina etc..but could still be really good signings for small clubs like ours.


When Watford signed Richarlison they probably had to bribe who knows who for a work permit..They had to go to court or something to get it done despite not fulfilling the FA criteria. Still they've managed somehow.
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"All of a sudden" he's gone from being an exciting international regular to perpetually injured (mentally as much as physically) and unable to get regular starts for a club side in his home nation. He's no longer considered an exceptional talent, and there are clearly UK and EU applicants that could do the same job as well or better.

There may be "so many talents to discover overseas" but there are plenty in South Wales as well.
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Whats happened to jeff? on 09:58 - Jul 9 with 5090 viewsomarjack

Whats happened to jeff? on 09:45 - Jul 9 by jasper_T

"All of a sudden" he's gone from being an exciting international regular to perpetually injured (mentally as much as physically) and unable to get regular starts for a club side in his home nation. He's no longer considered an exceptional talent, and there are clearly UK and EU applicants that could do the same job as well or better.

There may be "so many talents to discover overseas" but there are plenty in South Wales as well.


Yeah..it's better to "expand your horizon" in general.


Wales's population is 3 m only. South and Central America for example have a population of about 700 m people with a very strong football culture.

Just imagine the talent pool over there. Certainly only few make it on an international level which means we can't even consider signing most of these under the FA rules unless they carry an EU passport as well.


You're right about Montero. I'm sure nobody cares whether he stays or goes. But the idea is that the club should have the option here. And not some bureaucratic nonsensical rules.

And you say that there are many UK/EU players who can do a better job than Montero. Well no sh!t..Having a very simple and supportive EU recruitment criteria is terrific of course and no complaints about it. But in order to get those players the club will have to invest extra funds in order to sign them. Meanwhile Montero is already paid for and contracted. And Swans have to pay his wages for no return on top of that.

If Montero was quality I'd be outraged if we can't play him. Luckily it's no big loss if ir doesn't work out.

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Whats happened to jeff? on 10:03 - Jul 9 with 5076 viewsjasper_T

There is an enormous talent pool but they have their own domestic leagues and if the floodgates opened up for European clubs the hordes of unscrupulous agents would be exporting every kid who can do a stepover en mass.

Championship clubs like ours would not have a free run at a massive untapped market.
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Whats happened to jeff? on 11:41 - Jul 9 with 4928 viewsNeathJack

Work permits usually cover a player for the duration of his contract. It's possible that by going out on a loan (and then a sub loan) that it has meant he needs a new work permit.

If this is the case and he is no longer meets the criteria for a work permit, then whoever is responsible for overseeing such things needs sacking.
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Whats happened to jeff? on 15:25 - Jul 9 with 4730 viewsLoyal

Wouldnt be odd if Swansea just ignore his plight, and release him.
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Whats happened to jeff? on 20:13 - Jul 9 with 4544 viewsDewi1jack

Whats happened to jeff? on 09:21 - Jul 9 by JACKMANANDBOY

Looks like we've taken our eyes off this one.


Just this one?

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Whats happened to jeff? on 12:52 - Jul 10 with 4335 viewsomarjack

Apparently, the FA are investigating whether Montero not completing the "75% presence in national teams fixtures over 2 years" criteria is due to him not being good enough or only due to him being injured. And it's looking like it's the latter.

Swansea are confident he'll be cleared for a new work permit. Probably will join the squad next week.

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Whats happened to jeff? on 13:11 - Jul 10 with 4320 viewssP7qupUf

He's one that we need to get shot of rapidly. Been a disaster.... and we will still have those on here that will point to the games against Chelsea and arsenal when he was "unplayable". two games in how long. I was in West Brom for an evening game a couple of years back and he put in a performance that was the worst that I have ever seen by a Premier League player from ANY club.
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Whats happened to jeff? on 13:21 - Jul 10 with 4294 viewstheloneranger

"Swansea City's bizarre work permit problem with Jefferson Montero explained"


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/swansea-city-jefferso

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Whats happened to jeff? on 13:37 - Jul 10 with 4251 views34dfgdf54

It's been sorted apparently.

News of another incoming player due on Sunday.
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Whats happened to jeff? on 18:47 - Jul 10 with 4099 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Whats happened to jeff? on 13:37 - Jul 10 by 34dfgdf54

It's been sorted apparently.

News of another incoming player due on Sunday.


Any inside info?

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Whats happened to jeff? on 18:49 - Jul 10 with 4094 viewsforkbeard

Whats happened to jeff? on 18:47 - Jul 10 by Brynmill_Jack

Any inside info?


Other than he’s around 6ft, that’s all that’s been obtained so far from when someone asked if it was a big player we were signing.
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Whats happened to jeff? on 18:53 - Jul 10 with 4082 views34dfgdf54

Whats happened to jeff? on 18:47 - Jul 10 by Brynmill_Jack

Any inside info?


Just that Alan Nixon guy who never seems to be wrong when he breaks stories about us.
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Whats happened to jeff? on 18:59 - Jul 10 with 4066 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Whats happened to jeff? on 18:53 - Jul 10 by 34dfgdf54

Just that Alan Nixon guy who never seems to be wrong when he breaks stories about us.


Are we talking about the Sunderland lad or an additional player mate?

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Whats happened to jeff? on 19:15 - Jul 10 with 4054 views34dfgdf54

Whats happened to jeff? on 18:59 - Jul 10 by Brynmill_Jack

Are we talking about the Sunderland lad or an additional player mate?


Additional. Will be interesting to see if we go for experience or another youngster.
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Whats happened to jeff? on 22:25 - Jul 10 with 3943 viewsjack247

Whats happened to jeff? on 13:11 - Jul 10 by sP7qupUf

He's one that we need to get shot of rapidly. Been a disaster.... and we will still have those on here that will point to the games against Chelsea and arsenal when he was "unplayable". two games in how long. I was in West Brom for an evening game a couple of years back and he put in a performance that was the worst that I have ever seen by a Premier League player from ANY club.


Plenty will still trot out the ‘on his day’ argument for Jeff
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Whats happened to jeff? on 22:58 - Jul 10 with 3887 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Whats happened to jeff? on 22:25 - Jul 10 by jack247

Plenty will still trot out the ‘on his day’ argument for Jeff


I know montero has flattered to deceive but there's a clean slate for everyone now. Let's see if Potter can manage his mental and physical frailties because the ability is there and for us beggars can't be choosers. We need to get behind Potter and whoever he picks and I'm hoping he's going to pick up a few good bargains and make us a genuine competitive threat once more.

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