| keefe/penny verdict on 20:39 - Apr 30 with 3203 views | theloneranger |
| keefe/penny verdict on 20:25 - Apr 30 by PozuelosSideys |
Yep. Im aware of unfair dismissals etc and the legislation around it. Have been part of a TUPE many years ago so its a sensitive subject ;)
We can only guess as to their motives, although im inclined to agree with you on that, but my gut feeling is this outcome is pretty bad for the club (couldnt care less about those on the Board etc). Given the rest of the items were thrown out, it will affect any compensatory payments and imo will be nominal.
Reading that article though, are Jenkins, Dineen, Levien and Kaplan still 'fit and proper'? I would like to think the Trust are asking probing questions too.. |
A glove and a lubricated finger to do the probing?? |  |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 20:40 - Apr 30 with 3197 views | HuntsJack |
Steve Penny was banned from the stadium by Huw Jenkins when they dared to raise their concerns |  | | |
| keefe/penny verdict on 20:42 - Apr 30 with 3189 views | PozuelosSideys |
| keefe/penny verdict on 20:39 - Apr 30 by theloneranger |
A glove and a lubricated finger to do the probing?? |
Only a finger? You are a gentleman Sir. That lot need the whole fist. |  |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 20:45 - Apr 30 with 3172 views | vetchonian |
And still some on here will continue to Defend Huw.
He is worse than Petty in my eyes.....all that guff about how the club was safeguarded when they took over only to go and sell us out to what appear to be a right bunch of charlatans all in the interest of lining his own pocket | |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 20:46 - Apr 30 with 3171 views | theloneranger |
| keefe/penny verdict on 20:42 - Apr 30 by PozuelosSideys |
Only a finger? You are a gentleman Sir. That lot need the whole fist. |
Ok, a hedgehog without lubricant 😂😂 | |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 20:48 - Apr 30 with 3166 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| keefe/penny verdict on 20:45 - Apr 30 by vetchonian |
And still some on here will continue to Defend Huw.
He is worse than Petty in my eyes.....all that guff about how the club was safeguarded when they took over only to go and sell us out to what appear to be a right bunch of charlatans all in the interest of lining his own pocket |
At least Petty was transparent. |  |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 21:08 - Apr 30 with 3110 views | Oldjack |
| keefe/penny verdict on 20:48 - Apr 30 by JACKMANANDBOY |
At least Petty was transparent. |
Right ,will we the fans have to indirectly pay for their lies and fraud ?,if so this is disgraceful and should never happen ,in fact there should be criminal charges brought against the culprits who have lied |  |
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You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| keefe/penny verdict on 21:11 - Apr 30 with 3099 views | QJumpingJack |
Lets see if the national press pick up on this story. The Americans won't want further bad PR.
Very sad times for the club and fans. | | | |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 21:50 - Apr 30 with 2995 views | Private_Partz |
| keefe/penny verdict on 19:24 - Apr 30 by theloneranger |
So they never checked Pinnochio's nose when he was giving evidence!!
It added: “Having seen and heard the evidence of Mr Jenkins we view it as improbable in the extreme that he was a party in a deliberate deception as alleged, and that the more likely explanation is simple error.” |
Am i reading this correctly?
They trying to get their friends out of the club to allow the sale to go though.
They make up a story about PL rules. This fails so they play on the heartstrings by saying litigation from The Yanks could follow creating expense for the club.
When that fails they file documents 2 weeks later with CH stating incorrectly both had resigned regardless.
Despite all this the beak then thought this was done in error?
I bet many a crook would love to be up before such a judge. [Post edited 30 Apr 2018 21:51]
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| keefe/penny verdict on 22:03 - Apr 30 with 2956 views | QJumpingJack |
bring back Thompson and Cullis | | | |
| keefe/penny verdict on 22:07 - Apr 30 with 2938 views | HuntsJack |
| keefe/penny verdict on 21:50 - Apr 30 by Private_Partz |
Am i reading this correctly?
They trying to get their friends out of the club to allow the sale to go though.
They make up a story about PL rules. This fails so they play on the heartstrings by saying litigation from The Yanks could follow creating expense for the club.
When that fails they file documents 2 weeks later with CH stating incorrectly both had resigned regardless.
Despite all this the beak then thought this was done in error?
I bet many a crook would love to be up before such a judge. [Post edited 30 Apr 2018 21:51]
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| keefe/penny verdict on 22:09 - Apr 30 with 2931 views | theloneranger |
| keefe/penny verdict on 21:50 - Apr 30 by Private_Partz |
Am i reading this correctly?
They trying to get their friends out of the club to allow the sale to go though.
They make up a story about PL rules. This fails so they play on the heartstrings by saying litigation from The Yanks could follow creating expense for the club.
When that fails they file documents 2 weeks later with CH stating incorrectly both had resigned regardless.
Despite all this the beak then thought this was done in error?
I bet many a crook would love to be up before such a judge. [Post edited 30 Apr 2018 21:51]
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Pinnochio looking all bashful and innocent in the witness box, hand over his face so the judge couldn't see his nose growing. | |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 22:23 - Apr 30 with 2891 views | TheResurrection |
| keefe/penny verdict on 19:59 - Apr 30 by londonlisa2001 |
They did win it. |
They won very little and wasted a lot of their time.
Whether people want to keep looking for more and more sticks to beat the Club with, it has a right who to employ and who not to. We've all been in situations where our jobs have been at risk or going.
Unfair dismissal, fine, that happens all the time in life.
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| keefe/penny verdict on 22:28 - Apr 30 with 2878 views | TheResurrection |
| keefe/penny verdict on 20:17 - Apr 30 by londonlisa2001 |
There was a claim for unfair dismissal and other subsidiary claims around that. They won the claim for unfair dismissal.
The compensation has yet to be decided as far as I can see. There are caps in place for compensation under law which I'm sure they were aware of. I don't imagine they brought the case for monetary reasons but more as a point of principle. |
Maybe they felt they were owed more from the millions of dollars that were suddenly appearing | |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 22:43 - Apr 30 with 2832 views | Private_Partz |
| keefe/penny verdict on 22:23 - Apr 30 by TheResurrection |
They won very little and wasted a lot of their time.
Whether people want to keep looking for more and more sticks to beat the Club with, it has a right who to employ and who not to. We've all been in situations where our jobs have been at risk or going.
Unfair dismissal, fine, that happens all the time in life.
Fraud. Not guilty |
You were the judge! . I claim my fiver ;-) | |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 23:07 - Apr 30 with 2777 views | swanforthemoney |
| keefe/penny verdict on 20:17 - Apr 30 by londonlisa2001 |
There was a claim for unfair dismissal and other subsidiary claims around that. They won the claim for unfair dismissal.
The compensation has yet to be decided as far as I can see. There are caps in place for compensation under law which I'm sure they were aware of. I don't imagine they brought the case for monetary reasons but more as a point of principle. |
No cap if they had proved age discrimination, but they lost that one. That’s why they would have put the age discrimination claim in there. |  |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 23:18 - Apr 30 with 2742 views | swancity |
| keefe/penny verdict on 22:23 - Apr 30 by TheResurrection |
They won very little and wasted a lot of their time.
Whether people want to keep looking for more and more sticks to beat the Club with, it has a right who to employ and who not to. We've all been in situations where our jobs have been at risk or going.
Unfair dismissal, fine, that happens all the time in life.
Fraud. Not guilty |
Unfair dismissal..fine?
Not really. Think about it for a moment. And the way it happened. It's symptomatic of the way things are going. The lies, the cheating, the sly way things are being done. Two men who have done so much for our Club are tossed to one side. They sue the club and rightly win the case. It's not fine. Far from it. It's embarrassing and a disgrace. As was the preparation of documentation to try to substantiate meetings which never took place. Sounds familiar, there's a theme developing here.
Fine? Not at all. | |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 23:35 - Apr 30 with 2702 views | max936 |
| keefe/penny verdict on 20:25 - Apr 30 by PozuelosSideys |
Yep. Im aware of unfair dismissals etc and the legislation around it. Have been part of a TUPE many years ago so its a sensitive subject ;)
We can only guess as to their motives, although im inclined to agree with you on that, but my gut feeling is this outcome is pretty bad for the club (couldnt care less about those on the Board etc). Given the rest of the items were thrown out, it will affect any compensatory payments and imo will be nominal.
Reading that article though, are Jenkins, Dineen, Levien and Kaplan still 'fit and proper'? I would like to think the Trust are asking probing questions too.. |
The Trust not a chance in hell in my opinion they won’t want to rock any boats.
The whole thing stinks, along with many other things over the last few yrs and probably longer. |  |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 23:52 - Apr 30 with 2678 views | TheResurrection |
| keefe/penny verdict on 21:11 - Apr 30 by QJumpingJack |
Lets see if the national press pick up on this story. The Americans won't want further bad PR.
Very sad times for the club and fans. |
Why would they, it's a low interest nothing story. | |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 23:58 - Apr 30 with 2670 views | TheResurrection |
| keefe/penny verdict on 23:18 - Apr 30 by swancity |
Unfair dismissal..fine?
Not really. Think about it for a moment. And the way it happened. It's symptomatic of the way things are going. The lies, the cheating, the sly way things are being done. Two men who have done so much for our Club are tossed to one side. They sue the club and rightly win the case. It's not fine. Far from it. It's embarrassing and a disgrace. As was the preparation of documentation to try to substantiate meetings which never took place. Sounds familiar, there's a theme developing here.
Fine? Not at all. |
But it is. It's a tiny story in the history of the Club. There were a lot of allegations brought before the Beak and the only thing they upheld was that the club didn't offer a consultation period and follow employment regulations in ending an employers tenure.
It's once again much ado about nothing but the usual suspects are making mountains out of molehills.
It's just the way it's going to be from now on. | |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 00:01 - May 1 with 2663 views | TheResurrection |
| keefe/penny verdict on 23:58 - Apr 30 by TheResurrection |
But it is. It's a tiny story in the history of the Club. There were a lot of allegations brought before the Beak and the only thing they upheld was that the club didn't offer a consultation period and follow employment regulations in ending an employers tenure.
It's once again much ado about nothing but the usual suspects are making mountains out of molehills.
It's just the way it's going to be from now on. |
It's a pity some of you don't show the same respect to another employee of the Club, Wayne Routledge. A lot of you don't want the same sentimentality shown there
Faux outrage.
OUTRAGED.....
OUTRAGEOUS!!!
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| keefe/penny verdict on 03:14 - May 1 with 2595 views | Dippy |
| keefe/penny verdict on 00:01 - May 1 by TheResurrection |
It's a pity some of you don't show the same respect to another employee of the Club, Wayne Routledge. A lot of you don't want the same sentimentality shown there
Faux outrage.
OUTRAGED.....
OUTRAGEOUS!!!
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Bunch of old women |
Wayne Routledge gets paid in millions.. it's a bit different to two -100k a year employees.
100k a year on the world average is rather decent, and In the worlds 20%.. but inflation costs and living standards take huge chunks out of 100k salaries.. when you calculate it all together.. someone who earns -100k a year is simply in the "average" humans stratosphere by mere 5% advantages.
Wayne Routledge is in the world's 10%.. the gap of living standards between someone at 20% to 10% is around 60-80% difference.
What I'm trying to get at here.. there's a HUGE difference between Routledge getting the boot than the other guys..
And when you put performance to income.. Routledge is very average in that department.
The gap is so ridiculous, you have Dr's shaking their head every day..
Could be worse, could be me.. show's ability in the Jedi 0.01% of the world's population.. yet people talk to me as if I'm some sort of inconsequential non entity.. Lionel Messi doesn't do some of the stuff I do on times.. they just dismiss me as a myth & fantasy. | |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 05:20 - May 1 with 2573 views | Bobby_Fischer |
Oh shit SCSA will be all over this can you confirm big phillip? |  |
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| keefe/penny verdict on 08:30 - May 1 with 2438 views | costalotta |
| keefe/penny verdict on 22:23 - Apr 30 by TheResurrection |
They won very little and wasted a lot of their time.
Whether people want to keep looking for more and more sticks to beat the Club with, it has a right who to employ and who not to. We've all been in situations where our jobs have been at risk or going.
Unfair dismissal, fine, that happens all the time in life.
Fraud. Not guilty |
I don’t think they were beating the club per se, even though th it’s the club that would foot any bill. Looks from where I am it was about them defending themselves and what was perceived as their actions, when they were not. That’s personal and I’m sure you would do the same? That should tell you something.
Little by little Huw is being found out for what he really is. Some of us have known for quite a while. When all is done that is what he will be remembered for as that what people are like. They rarely remember the positive but will always remember the negative.
No amount is f defending Huw by trying to deflect on to the club will help him. It’s a slippery slope for now and he’s sliding. As the saying goes ‘no smoke without fire’ . This one is starting to blaze! [Post edited 1 May 2018 8:49]
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