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Bony had Malaria 17:42 - Feb 3 with 13143 viewsDarran

I’ve heard a few people say you never fully get over it,especially at top level sport.

I’ve heard others say that’s nonsense.


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Bony had Malaria on 10:34 - Feb 4 with 3484 viewsShaky

Bony had Malaria on 09:58 - Feb 4 by WarwickHunt

Typical lazy buy from our laughably entitled “recruitment team”.

A huge and expensive gamble we couldn’t afford to make. Well past his prime, injury prone and had hardly kicked a ball in anger in two years. Who knew?

An appearance/performance based deal might have made sense.


Jenkins has a mentality very similar to one seen in certain flawed traders.

Make a good investment, then sell at a good price, but then buy back in thinking they have mastered that particular market only to see their self-proclaimed valuation expertise turn to shit as prices keep nosediving.

It is in essence a manifestation of over-confidence.

Will we see the same phenomenon again with A Ayew? Probably.

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Bony had Malaria on 13:07 - Feb 4 with 3397 viewsmax936

Bony had Malaria on 18:22 - Feb 3 by Darran

Pound for pound there’s several I’d put ahead of Bony in our history.


Jason Scotland was vastly underrated by many, 50 goals in two season's speaks for itself though, could he have done it at this level probably not, but my point still stands.

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Bony had Malaria on 17:04 - Feb 4 with 3320 viewsNirvana

Video below is an interesting watch (Justin Wren is a ffukkingg badass, btw) and goes into detail on the effects of malaria. Starts at about 1:45.

In short, yes, Bony is probably still feeling the effects and likely will for some time. Maybe not, but likely.

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Bony had Malaria on 10:57 - Feb 5 with 3247 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Bony had Malaria on 17:04 - Feb 4 by Nirvana

Video below is an interesting watch (Justin Wren is a ffukkingg badass, btw) and goes into detail on the effects of malaria. Starts at about 1:45.

In short, yes, Bony is probably still feeling the effects and likely will for some time. Maybe not, but likely.



When you contract malaria it's yours for life. Will flare up from time to time

Each time I go to Bedd - au........................

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Bony had Malaria on 12:56 - Feb 5 with 3181 viewslondonlisa2001

Bony had Malaria on 10:57 - Feb 5 by Brynmill_Jack

When you contract malaria it's yours for life. Will flare up from time to time


That's not true.

A few years ago, four of us were in Tanzania and one contracted malaria. All of us were taking Malarone. It's interesting after visiting a WHO clinic over there (the owners of the hotel recognised the symptoms and took us all there for the blood test) that they said that anti malarial drugs are not as effective as we are told here when getting them - for reasons I'll come to.

Anyway, a drug called coartem was taken for 4 days or so, and when we returned, the hospital here took a blood test to confirm that the parasite was eradicated, and then another a couple of weeks later to test white and red blood cell recovery. All was clear and the parasite had gone. Completely. Not lying dormant of any other such stuff, gone. Forever. The only way it would 'recur' is catching it again from scratch, from another infected mosquito.

It's only certain strains that can remain within the body, and even then, only when it's not treated with the correct drugs quickly enough.

The reason about incorrect statistics being used when telling people the effectiveness of Malarone etc by the way, was that when we returned, my friend had to report to the NHS that he had contracted malaria while on Malarone, but the doctor said that because the malaria had now gone (proved by the blood test) that the reporting was not done as there technically wasn't malaria any longer. So the official statistics show Malarone to be 90 something % effective, but the WHO clinic said that they believed it to be 70 something % effective in practice,

So even when taking anti malarials, if people are away and get flu type symptoms, it's really worth getting checked. Immediately. Because it's easy to treat in the early stages, but is massively dangerous if not treated early enough and the parasite takes hold. Particularly by the way in westerners. Because we have higher levels of iron in our blood (being healthier than the local people on average), and the parasite needs that to thrive. The widespread anaemia in local populations in Africa (for example), actually makes it harder for the malaria to take hold as quickly.
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Bony had Malaria on 13:02 - Feb 5 with 3165 viewsOldjack

Bony had Malaria on 12:56 - Feb 5 by londonlisa2001

That's not true.

A few years ago, four of us were in Tanzania and one contracted malaria. All of us were taking Malarone. It's interesting after visiting a WHO clinic over there (the owners of the hotel recognised the symptoms and took us all there for the blood test) that they said that anti malarial drugs are not as effective as we are told here when getting them - for reasons I'll come to.

Anyway, a drug called coartem was taken for 4 days or so, and when we returned, the hospital here took a blood test to confirm that the parasite was eradicated, and then another a couple of weeks later to test white and red blood cell recovery. All was clear and the parasite had gone. Completely. Not lying dormant of any other such stuff, gone. Forever. The only way it would 'recur' is catching it again from scratch, from another infected mosquito.

It's only certain strains that can remain within the body, and even then, only when it's not treated with the correct drugs quickly enough.

The reason about incorrect statistics being used when telling people the effectiveness of Malarone etc by the way, was that when we returned, my friend had to report to the NHS that he had contracted malaria while on Malarone, but the doctor said that because the malaria had now gone (proved by the blood test) that the reporting was not done as there technically wasn't malaria any longer. So the official statistics show Malarone to be 90 something % effective, but the WHO clinic said that they believed it to be 70 something % effective in practice,

So even when taking anti malarials, if people are away and get flu type symptoms, it's really worth getting checked. Immediately. Because it's easy to treat in the early stages, but is massively dangerous if not treated early enough and the parasite takes hold. Particularly by the way in westerners. Because we have higher levels of iron in our blood (being healthier than the local people on average), and the parasite needs that to thrive. The widespread anaemia in local populations in Africa (for example), actually makes it harder for the malaria to take hold as quickly.


Thanks Doc

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Bony had Malaria on 13:14 - Feb 5 with 3145 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Bony had Malaria on 12:56 - Feb 5 by londonlisa2001

That's not true.

A few years ago, four of us were in Tanzania and one contracted malaria. All of us were taking Malarone. It's interesting after visiting a WHO clinic over there (the owners of the hotel recognised the symptoms and took us all there for the blood test) that they said that anti malarial drugs are not as effective as we are told here when getting them - for reasons I'll come to.

Anyway, a drug called coartem was taken for 4 days or so, and when we returned, the hospital here took a blood test to confirm that the parasite was eradicated, and then another a couple of weeks later to test white and red blood cell recovery. All was clear and the parasite had gone. Completely. Not lying dormant of any other such stuff, gone. Forever. The only way it would 'recur' is catching it again from scratch, from another infected mosquito.

It's only certain strains that can remain within the body, and even then, only when it's not treated with the correct drugs quickly enough.

The reason about incorrect statistics being used when telling people the effectiveness of Malarone etc by the way, was that when we returned, my friend had to report to the NHS that he had contracted malaria while on Malarone, but the doctor said that because the malaria had now gone (proved by the blood test) that the reporting was not done as there technically wasn't malaria any longer. So the official statistics show Malarone to be 90 something % effective, but the WHO clinic said that they believed it to be 70 something % effective in practice,

So even when taking anti malarials, if people are away and get flu type symptoms, it's really worth getting checked. Immediately. Because it's easy to treat in the early stages, but is massively dangerous if not treated early enough and the parasite takes hold. Particularly by the way in westerners. Because we have higher levels of iron in our blood (being healthier than the local people on average), and the parasite needs that to thrive. The widespread anaemia in local populations in Africa (for example), actually makes it harder for the malaria to take hold as quickly.


The Malarone killed the parasite in his bloodstream? That's what it's supposed to do. If the parasite gets to your liver it's not curable, yes?

Each time I go to Bedd - au........................

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Bony had Malaria on 13:16 - Feb 5 with 3138 viewslondonlisa2001

Bony had Malaria on 13:02 - Feb 5 by Oldjack

Thanks Doc


Lol.

I wasn't pretending you be a doc old jack. I just happen to have been on holiday with a friend who contracted malaria - the whole experience was quite illuminating as it showed what the real issues are with the disease. The local villagers simply can't get to the clinics which would be able to treat them quickly (and for free by the way, although it wasn't free for my friend as they charge westerners for the drugs, rightly).

Actually, the other interesting thing was that the NHS would routinely treat by hospital admission and use of drips, whereas prescription of coartem for a few days is actually more effective, or as effective anyway, at a fraction of the cost. You're better off being diagnosed and treated in Africa than over here.
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Bony had Malaria on 13:21 - Feb 5 with 3127 viewsOldjack

Bony had Malaria on 13:16 - Feb 5 by londonlisa2001

Lol.

I wasn't pretending you be a doc old jack. I just happen to have been on holiday with a friend who contracted malaria - the whole experience was quite illuminating as it showed what the real issues are with the disease. The local villagers simply can't get to the clinics which would be able to treat them quickly (and for free by the way, although it wasn't free for my friend as they charge westerners for the drugs, rightly).

Actually, the other interesting thing was that the NHS would routinely treat by hospital admission and use of drips, whereas prescription of coartem for a few days is actually more effective, or as effective anyway, at a fraction of the cost. You're better off being diagnosed and treated in Africa than over here.


i'm presuming Bony contracted this disease when he went back to his motherland, why didn't he get jabbed before he left for the motherland ?

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Bony had Malaria on 13:32 - Feb 5 with 3117 viewslondonlisa2001

Bony had Malaria on 13:21 - Feb 5 by Oldjack

i'm presuming Bony contracted this disease when he went back to his motherland, why didn't he get jabbed before he left for the motherland ?


I have no idea what he did or didn't get or what strain of malaria he had or anything else.

The drugs for treatment if you contract malaria are tablets.

As for why he didn't get jabbed before he went back - there's no vaccination against malaria. You take anti malarial tablets, which as I said, aren't always effective. The people who live there (including westerners) don't take them. They treat it when they get it instead.
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Bony had Malaria on 13:38 - Feb 5 with 3104 viewslondonlisa2001

Bony had Malaria on 13:14 - Feb 5 by Brynmill_Jack

The Malarone killed the parasite in his bloodstream? That's what it's supposed to do. If the parasite gets to your liver it's not curable, yes?


No. The Malarone was ineffective. The coartem killed the parasite. It always (from what they told him) incubates in the liver. The coartem kills it.

It's only certain strains (there are a number of different strains of malaria) that can't always be effectively destroyed, and even then, the new drugs destroy it in most circumstances.

Malaria is dangerous because it's often not identified or treated quickly enough. It then becomes much harder (and sometimes impossible) to treat. As with a lot of disease, it is also harder to treat if the person has a weak immune system.
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Bony had Malaria on 13:52 - Feb 5 with 3088 viewsProfessor

Bony had Malaria on 13:38 - Feb 5 by londonlisa2001

No. The Malarone was ineffective. The coartem killed the parasite. It always (from what they told him) incubates in the liver. The coartem kills it.

It's only certain strains (there are a number of different strains of malaria) that can't always be effectively destroyed, and even then, the new drugs destroy it in most circumstances.

Malaria is dangerous because it's often not identified or treated quickly enough. It then becomes much harder (and sometimes impossible) to treat. As with a lot of disease, it is also harder to treat if the person has a weak immune system.


None of the antimalarials are 100% effective and resistance in the parasite is an increasing problem. There are, as you say, multiple strains of the 4 Plasmodium species affecting humans which vary in their susceptibility and form of disease. The complex life cycle with blood and liver stages along with the mosquito salivary glands and gut make vaccines difficult to develop-there is also variation in the surface which evades immunity.

And yes, co-infection with HIV is a problem, as indeed is infection with invasive Salmonella in kids and adults with malaria. It's a killer in Africa alright.
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Bony had Malaria on 05:25 - Feb 6 with 2995 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Bony had Malaria on 13:38 - Feb 5 by londonlisa2001

No. The Malarone was ineffective. The coartem killed the parasite. It always (from what they told him) incubates in the liver. The coartem kills it.

It's only certain strains (there are a number of different strains of malaria) that can't always be effectively destroyed, and even then, the new drugs destroy it in most circumstances.

Malaria is dangerous because it's often not identified or treated quickly enough. It then becomes much harder (and sometimes impossible) to treat. As with a lot of disease, it is also harder to treat if the person has a weak immune system.


Fair enough,that sounds logical. I'm using Malarone now, you get very vivid dreams with it. I don't think there is a high risk here but I'm being cautious

Each time I go to Bedd - au........................

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Bony had Malaria on 06:28 - Feb 6 with 2985 viewsWAFU

Plenty of malaria experts seem to have appeared out of the woodwork all of a sudden.
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Bony had Malaria on 07:44 - Feb 6 with 2951 viewsLohengrin

Bony had Malaria on 06:28 - Feb 6 by WAFU

Plenty of malaria experts seem to have appeared out of the woodwork all of a sudden.


The chemist was just about to shut but the Prof, Bryn and Lisa were having none of it....


An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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Bony had Malaria on 09:00 - Feb 6 with 2906 viewsProfessor

Bony had Malaria on 07:44 - Feb 6 by Lohengrin

The chemist was just about to shut but the Prof, Bryn and Lisa were having none of it....



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Bony had Malaria on 13:18 - Feb 6 with 2830 viewslondonlisa2001

Bony had Malaria on 05:25 - Feb 6 by Brynmill_Jack

Fair enough,that sounds logical. I'm using Malarone now, you get very vivid dreams with it. I don't think there is a high risk here but I'm being cautious


Where are you Brynnie? Africa?
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Bony had Malaria on 13:20 - Feb 6 with 2824 viewsLoyal

Bony had Malaria on 13:18 - Feb 6 by londonlisa2001

Where are you Brynnie? Africa?


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Bony had Malaria on 13:38 - Feb 6 with 2808 viewslondonlisa2001

Bony had Malaria on 13:20 - Feb 6 by Loyal

Llansamlet.


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Bony had Malaria on 14:17 - Feb 6 with 2779 viewsProfessor

Bony had Malaria on 13:20 - Feb 6 by Loyal

Llansamlet.


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Bony had Malaria on 20:23 - Feb 9 with 2629 viewsNirvana

Bony had Malaria on 13:16 - Feb 5 by londonlisa2001

Lol.

I wasn't pretending you be a doc old jack. I just happen to have been on holiday with a friend who contracted malaria - the whole experience was quite illuminating as it showed what the real issues are with the disease. The local villagers simply can't get to the clinics which would be able to treat them quickly (and for free by the way, although it wasn't free for my friend as they charge westerners for the drugs, rightly).

Actually, the other interesting thing was that the NHS would routinely treat by hospital admission and use of drips, whereas prescription of coartem for a few days is actually more effective, or as effective anyway, at a fraction of the cost. You're better off being diagnosed and treated in Africa than over here.


Lisa - "I am an official malaria expert."

PS - "How?"

Lisa - "Well, I was on holiday once..."

"Snigger."
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Bony had Malaria on 05:35 - Feb 10 with 2550 viewsdameedna

Malaria can stay for years. After two years it stopped. Five and no trace.
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Bony had Malaria on 06:28 - Feb 10 with 2538 viewsMo_Wives

Bony had Malaria on 13:20 - Feb 6 by Loyal

Llansamlet.



Good luck, Mr Cooper

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Bony had Malaria on 06:46 - Feb 10 with 2531 viewsBrynmill_Jack

Bony had Malaria on 13:18 - Feb 6 by londonlisa2001

Where are you Brynnie? Africa?


Goa in India

Each time I go to Bedd - au........................

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Bony had Malaria on 06:54 - Feb 10 with 2523 viewsairedale

Bony had Malaria on 06:46 - Feb 10 by Brynmill_Jack

Goa in India


Cool man.
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