| The Away Problem 09:22 - Nov 6 with 5038 views | peejaybee |
What sound sensible reasons could there be for our terrible away form. |  |
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| The Away Problem on 09:28 - Nov 6 with 3998 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
Is it terrible, not good on Saturday but I'm not sure we are terrible every game.
Lack of a good goal score is problematic home and away, did Sylla get out of bed on Saturday, still got a number of players out. [Post edited 6 Nov 2017 9:29]
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| The Away Problem on 09:55 - Nov 6 with 3954 views | kenthoop11 |
A lack of pace I reckon. We're so slow getting up the pitch, so can't seem to counter. I also think we need to go 4 at the back away from home, and get some real width from our wingers/fullbacks. Players like Wszolek have to play away from home. |  | | |
| The Away Problem on 10:12 - Nov 6 with 3930 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| The Away Problem on 09:28 - Nov 6 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Is it terrible, not good on Saturday but I'm not sure we are terrible every game.
Lack of a good goal score is problematic home and away, did Sylla get out of bed on Saturday, still got a number of players out. [Post edited 6 Nov 2017 9:29]
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There are, perhaps, mitigating circumstances but no wins at all is terrible. There is no getting away from that fact. |  | | |
| The Away Problem on 10:22 - Nov 6 with 3916 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| The Away Problem on 10:12 - Nov 6 by Benny_the_Ball |
There are, perhaps, mitigating circumstances but no wins at all is terrible. There is no getting away from that fact. |
Not really, terrible would be losing every game by 2/3+ goals, no goals for, no shots on target.
Poor way results yes but no where near terrible. [Post edited 6 Nov 2017 10:24]
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| The Away Problem on 10:30 - Nov 6 with 3891 views | daveB |
Saturday was the first away game where we've been well beaten, all the others, much like the home games have been quite tight affairs.
I don't think it's a huge problem but the sooner we get that win the better. I do think the main issue is taking chances, we've had chances to win almost every away game but haven't taken them and you don't get as many chances away from home as you do at home. |  | | |
| The Away Problem on 10:35 - Nov 6 with 3876 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| The Away Problem on 10:30 - Nov 6 by daveB |
Saturday was the first away game where we've been well beaten, all the others, much like the home games have been quite tight affairs.
I don't think it's a huge problem but the sooner we get that win the better. I do think the main issue is taking chances, we've had chances to win almost every away game but haven't taken them and you don't get as many chances away from home as you do at home. |
Exactly my point.
Until we can find a 15/20 goal striker it's going to stay the same.
To much praise given to Sylla, his goal against SU was just luck and he never turned up on Saturday.
Wash, just not a goal scorer, same with Mc.
All of them will be lucky to get to 10 [Post edited 6 Nov 2017 10:42]
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| The Away Problem on 10:41 - Nov 6 with 3863 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| The Away Problem on 10:30 - Nov 6 by daveB |
Saturday was the first away game where we've been well beaten, all the others, much like the home games have been quite tight affairs.
I don't think it's a huge problem but the sooner we get that win the better. I do think the main issue is taking chances, we've had chances to win almost every away game but haven't taken them and you don't get as many chances away from home as you do at home. |
Yes Rome wasn't built in a day. It's definitely improved since last season. I think I managed 5 away games, won 1 lost 4, aggregate score about 2 for to 15 against or something silly. Sooner we get a win the better. |  |
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| The Away Problem on 11:22 - Nov 6 with 3808 views | peejaybee |
| The Away Problem on 09:55 - Nov 6 by kenthoop11 |
A lack of pace I reckon. We're so slow getting up the pitch, so can't seem to counter. I also think we need to go 4 at the back away from home, and get some real width from our wingers/fullbacks. Players like Wszolek have to play away from home. |
Sound sensible reasoning,but what would your back four be ????? | |
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| The Away Problem on 13:48 - Nov 6 with 3656 views | kenthoop11 |
| The Away Problem on 11:22 - Nov 6 by peejaybee |
Sound sensible reasoning,but what would your back four be ????? |
Logic suggests Furlong in at right back as he's got a bit of pace about him - watching Baptiste get done out wide on Saturday was horrifying! Unsure on the rest of the back 4, any combination of Lynch/Baptiste/Robinson for the central roles, then Bidwell on the left. | | | |
| The Away Problem on 16:43 - Nov 6 with 3558 views | TacticalR |
I thought everything was going to be solved through deep breathing, Positive Mental Attitude, player committees, right sorts and not mentioning 'bonus games'? Or is there something more to it than that? |  |
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| The Away Problem on 16:50 - Nov 6 with 3549 views | DevonWhite |
| The Away Problem on 10:35 - Nov 6 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Exactly my point.
Until we can find a 15/20 goal striker it's going to stay the same.
To much praise given to Sylla, his goal against SU was just luck and he never turned up on Saturday.
Wash, just not a goal scorer, same with Mc.
All of them will be lucky to get to 10 [Post edited 6 Nov 2017 10:42]
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In what sense is too much praise being given to Sylla? He gets far more stick from fans than he deserves.
The stats would suggest that if we play him every week then he'll get us the 15-20 goals that you think require another signing. Or do some of his goals not count because they're lucky? Most strikers get praised for being in the right place at the right time. | | | |
| The Away Problem on 17:01 - Nov 6 with 3538 views | Northernr |
| The Away Problem on 10:35 - Nov 6 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Exactly my point.
Until we can find a 15/20 goal striker it's going to stay the same.
To much praise given to Sylla, his goal against SU was just luck and he never turned up on Saturday.
Wash, just not a goal scorer, same with Mc.
All of them will be lucky to get to 10 [Post edited 6 Nov 2017 10:42]
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"find" being the operative word there, because literally unless we find one wandering about out of contract on the White City Estate we can't afford one. |  | | |
| The Away Problem on 17:08 - Nov 6 with 3520 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| The Away Problem on 17:01 - Nov 6 by Northernr |
"find" being the operative word there, because literally unless we find one wandering about out of contract on the White City Estate we can't afford one. |
It's a problem the club has, if they can't solve it somehow, we will just continue as we are.
Maybe if they unload a few in Jan and that may mean one of our midfield trio
Maybe TF hinted at that the other day re Freeman | |
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| The Away Problem on 19:43 - Nov 6 with 3410 views | jonno |
While it's true we aren't great at converting chances up front, we have actually managed to score in most of our away games. The real problem IMHO is that we simply cannot achieve a clean sheet, and with us unlikely to score more than once that means it's not possible to get a win away from home. Hopefully we'll improve once we get some injured defenders back. |  | | |
| The Away Problem on 19:48 - Nov 6 with 3401 views | JAPRANGERS |
Away game equals Bonus game . How do we get out of this mentality?? |  | | |
| The Away Problem on 21:26 - Nov 6 with 3342 views | actonman |
Yes I think for too many years now we turn up at away games hoping for a draw rather than going into games as alpha males !!
Don't do many away games but from what I have seen we just turn up , hope for the best and when we do somehow get in the lead or look like we might get something we inevitably fcuk it right up cos we don't believe in ourselves.
That and someone who can stick it in the back of the net a bit more would be great |  | | |
| The Away Problem on 22:21 - Nov 6 with 3302 views | ichbinnaughty |
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| The Away Problem on 08:26 - Nov 7 with 3194 views | francisbowles |
| The Away Problem on 21:26 - Nov 6 by actonman |
Yes I think for too many years now we turn up at away games hoping for a draw rather than going into games as alpha males !!
Don't do many away games but from what I have seen we just turn up , hope for the best and when we do somehow get in the lead or look like we might get something we inevitably fcuk it right up cos we don't believe in ourselves.
That and someone who can stick it in the back of the net a bit more would be great |
Not sure we turn up hoping for a draw. It's been reported that we had a bright start until Forest scored on Saturday and we have taken the lead in four of our eight away games, twice at Middlesborough. Additionally, we have come from behind for a draw in two of the others. | | | |
| The Away Problem on 08:46 - Nov 7 with 3170 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| The Away Problem on 17:01 - Nov 6 by Northernr |
"find" being the operative word there, because literally unless we find one wandering about out of contract on the White City Estate we can't afford one. |
I am available. And not a sign of a phonecall from HQ. I played last night and scored a belter. Well, the keeper just got a paw to it. But if he hadn't...And If it hadn't been tailing wide...
I'm just saying. There are options.
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| The Away Problem on 08:51 - Nov 7 with 3163 views | Watford_Ranger |
| The Away Problem on 17:01 - Nov 6 by Northernr |
"find" being the operative word there, because literally unless we find one wandering about out of contract on the White City Estate we can't afford one. |
The accuracy some of those lads strike the roulette machines in William Hill after a 2L bottle of Strongbow I'd give them a trial. | | | |
| The Away Problem on 09:41 - Nov 7 with 3124 views | stevec |
| The Away Problem on 17:01 - Nov 6 by Northernr |
"find" being the operative word there, because literally unless we find one wandering about out of contract on the White City Estate we can't afford one. |
Laugh me out of town if you like but how about..... Akinfenwa?
6 foot plus, sixteen and half stone. I know, we might not get much mobility. BUT..
What we would get is someone who could hold the ball up till the cavalry arrive and might be double handy wrestling centre backs to the floor allowing Sylla to nip in with one off his knee cap from 3 yards out. |  | | |
| The Away Problem on 10:33 - Nov 7 with 3079 views | Dorse |
I think our weakness away from home is linked to the makeshift nature of our back line. No one is in any doubt as to Smithies' ability but the back 3 (or 5, or 4 for that matter) seems to be under far more pressure playing away and it's those little differences that get exploited. It might be a reticence to push up when we're away, creating gaps for the oppo to run into.
I would really like to see Furlong in the side on the right, whether as right CB in a 3 or as a WB. I don't know if it would be better as an attacking option but it couldn't hurt defensively. |  |
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| The Away Problem on 13:07 - Nov 7 with 2993 views | LongsufferingR |
| The Away Problem on 09:41 - Nov 7 by stevec |
Laugh me out of town if you like but how about..... Akinfenwa?
6 foot plus, sixteen and half stone. I know, we might not get much mobility. BUT..
What we would get is someone who could hold the ball up till the cavalry arrive and might be double handy wrestling centre backs to the floor allowing Sylla to nip in with one off his knee cap from 3 yards out. |
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| The Away Problem on 13:18 - Nov 7 with 2975 views | Rs_Holy |
| The Away Problem on 09:41 - Nov 7 by stevec |
Laugh me out of town if you like but how about..... Akinfenwa?
6 foot plus, sixteen and half stone. I know, we might not get much mobility. BUT..
What we would get is someone who could hold the ball up till the cavalry arrive and might be double handy wrestling centre backs to the floor allowing Sylla to nip in with one off his knee cap from 3 yards out. |
Could you imagine a training ground bust up between Akinfenwa and Onuoha... Beast v Beast!... On a par with Joshua v Wilder  |  | | |
| The Away Problem on 13:32 - Nov 7 with 2960 views | R_from_afar |
| The Away Problem on 09:41 - Nov 7 by stevec |
Laugh me out of town if you like but how about..... Akinfenwa?
6 foot plus, sixteen and half stone. I know, we might not get much mobility. BUT..
What we would get is someone who could hold the ball up till the cavalry arrive and might be double handy wrestling centre backs to the floor allowing Sylla to nip in with one off his knee cap from 3 yards out. |
Interesting idea. I have seen a lot of him recently - no pun intended - having been to a lot of Wycombe games (my best mate is a season ticket holder and it's close and cheap).
His hold-up play is exemplary and his lay-offs are excellent and bring others into the game well. His finishing is also good and, as you can imagine, he is difficult to mark and dispossess.
That said, he can struggle to get involved because in open play, he can't always get to the action quickly enough. He would also need to make a lot of match-winning contributions early on in his Rs career because believe you me, he is the slowest footballer in the football league. He makes plate tectonics look rapid. In addition, apart from at set pieces, he offers nothing defensively and can't press.
I think a possible solution may be at Wycombe, though; Eze. He is looking a real handful, jinky and confident on the ball, plus he is banging in the goals. I reckon it would be worth bringing him back in January.
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