| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader 20:59 - Jan 26 with 17541 views | easthertsr |
This unelected idiot spouting vile right-wing bile to try to get on side with that c*nt! Doesn't it make you be proud to be British? |  | | |  |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 21:31 - Jan 27 with 2704 views | francisbowles |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 19:53 - Jan 27 by BromleyHoop |
Very misleading! Every Prime Minister we've had has, strictly speaking, been unelected by the British public. That is because we do not have a Presidential system. The British public vote for a party, irrespective of who the leader is. The Parliamentary party then chooose an MP to lead them although Jeremy Corbyn is changing the process for the Labour Party as he wants the Party membership to choose a leader. Either way the voting public don't choose who the Prime Minister is. |
Yes, whichever way you look at it, saying she is 'unelected' is irrelevant. | | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 21:32 - Jan 27 with 2701 views | Brightonhoop |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 21:28 - Jan 27 by MrSheen |
I think it's to run 200 social care centres, not have Branson descending from heaven once in a while. Ironically Virgin's for-profit healthcare subsidiary makes a big loss. |
The loss is a smoke screen in front of some mirrors. Snake skin oil salesman.
Point is the NHS is not the Tories to give away to Branson. They will stick it on ebay to highest bidder/Trump. It is why they have failed to increase spending, they have a dastardly plan. |  | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 21:56 - Jan 27 with 2654 views | MrSheen |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 21:32 - Jan 27 by Brightonhoop |
The loss is a smoke screen in front of some mirrors. Snake skin oil salesman.
Point is the NHS is not the Tories to give away to Branson. They will stick it on ebay to highest bidder/Trump. It is why they have failed to increase spending, they have a dastardly plan. |
We take privately made drugs, get examined on privately made machines and have our blood tested by privately owned labs. Do you feel cheated or unsafe? |  | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 22:19 - Jan 27 with 2622 views | Brightonhoop |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 21:56 - Jan 27 by MrSheen |
We take privately made drugs, get examined on privately made machines and have our blood tested by privately owned labs. Do you feel cheated or unsafe? |
Are you advocating the demise of the NHS? NHS pays heavily for those entities via taxation and National Insurance. Not entirely sure what your point is.
Start saving for health insurance, the American model is going to be imposed post Brexit. | | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 22:34 - Jan 27 with 2592 views | MrSheen |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 22:19 - Jan 27 by Brightonhoop |
Are you advocating the demise of the NHS? NHS pays heavily for those entities via taxation and National Insurance. Not entirely sure what your point is.
Start saving for health insurance, the American model is going to be imposed post Brexit. |
There's nothing evil and unsafe about prvate companies getting involved in public healthcare if it delivers better results.
The fetishisation of the NHS and the idea that there are only two options, it and a US free for all, are infuriating and nonsensical. French public health provision is the best in the world and mixes public and private provision and requires users to take out insurance, but it seems we are too proud and insular to think it worth considering. | | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 22:39 - Jan 27 with 2583 views | toemasher |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 11:08 - Jan 27 by francisbowles |
In the last 100 years we have changed prime minister 24 times.
12 of these took the job without being elected.May
Lloyd George, Baldwin (twice), Chamberlain, Churchill, Eden, McMillan, Douglas-Home, Callaghan and Major as well as Brown and May.
Only five of these, so far, have subsequently 'been elected' |
How many of these weren't even elected by their own party? |  | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 22:42 - Jan 27 with 2578 views | Hoop_Du_Jour |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 21:32 - Jan 27 by Brightonhoop |
The loss is a smoke screen in front of some mirrors. Snake skin oil salesman.
Point is the NHS is not the Tories to give away to Branson. They will stick it on ebay to highest bidder/Trump. It is why they have failed to increase spending, they have a dastardly plan. |
Why do you think Branson is desperate for UK to stay in the EU? |  | | |
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| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 22:50 - Jan 27 with 2566 views | Brightonhoop |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 22:34 - Jan 27 by MrSheen |
There's nothing evil and unsafe about prvate companies getting involved in public healthcare if it delivers better results.
The fetishisation of the NHS and the idea that there are only two options, it and a US free for all, are infuriating and nonsensical. French public health provision is the best in the world and mixes public and private provision and requires users to take out insurance, but it seems we are too proud and insular to think it worth considering. |
Ha! Absolute twaddle. And I'm sure you are far too intelligent to believe any of that. Our pre-paid via National Insurance and has been for 70+ years. Road Tax alone collects £5 Bn and spends only £1 Billion on roads with no accounting for the £4 Billion gap. That would be kinda useful for the NHS that maintains the nations health to work, compete and die with grace.
There is no place for private in public Services. German and French trains are heavily subsidised by our own rail fares via companies in those countries that bought in and hiked the prices. Same with Electric. Every time you put the kettle on, you make French Electric cheaper. There is no insurance against French Electric. They dont need it, it is copper bottomed by the likes of EDF that the UK pays for. In addition to National Insurance.
I've yet to hear why Branson was given 0.01% of the NHS cherry for free, and how it benefits the UK NHS health system for the population. It only benefits Branson.
Did you see the way Trump held Mays hand by the way? Little Britain my arse lol. | | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 23:08 - Jan 27 with 2550 views | Brightonhoop |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 22:42 - Jan 27 by Hoop_Du_Jour |
Why do you think Branson is desperate for UK to stay in the EU? |
Because Trump is going to cherry pick assets ahead of him. | | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 23:34 - Jan 27 with 2520 views | MrSheen |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 22:50 - Jan 27 by Brightonhoop |
Ha! Absolute twaddle. And I'm sure you are far too intelligent to believe any of that. Our pre-paid via National Insurance and has been for 70+ years. Road Tax alone collects £5 Bn and spends only £1 Billion on roads with no accounting for the £4 Billion gap. That would be kinda useful for the NHS that maintains the nations health to work, compete and die with grace.
There is no place for private in public Services. German and French trains are heavily subsidised by our own rail fares via companies in those countries that bought in and hiked the prices. Same with Electric. Every time you put the kettle on, you make French Electric cheaper. There is no insurance against French Electric. They dont need it, it is copper bottomed by the likes of EDF that the UK pays for. In addition to National Insurance.
I've yet to hear why Branson was given 0.01% of the NHS cherry for free, and how it benefits the UK NHS health system for the population. It only benefits Branson.
Did you see the way Trump held Mays hand by the way? Little Britain my arse lol. |
Government spending on roads is £9bn a year, not £1bn. Page 74.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/538793
Where do you get your information? | | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 23:41 - Jan 27 with 2512 views | MrSheen |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 22:50 - Jan 27 by Brightonhoop |
Ha! Absolute twaddle. And I'm sure you are far too intelligent to believe any of that. Our pre-paid via National Insurance and has been for 70+ years. Road Tax alone collects £5 Bn and spends only £1 Billion on roads with no accounting for the £4 Billion gap. That would be kinda useful for the NHS that maintains the nations health to work, compete and die with grace.
There is no place for private in public Services. German and French trains are heavily subsidised by our own rail fares via companies in those countries that bought in and hiked the prices. Same with Electric. Every time you put the kettle on, you make French Electric cheaper. There is no insurance against French Electric. They dont need it, it is copper bottomed by the likes of EDF that the UK pays for. In addition to National Insurance.
I've yet to hear why Branson was given 0.01% of the NHS cherry for free, and how it benefits the UK NHS health system for the population. It only benefits Branson.
Did you see the way Trump held Mays hand by the way? Little Britain my arse lol. |
No place for private in public services? French healthcare...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_France
In its 2000 assessment of world health care systems, the World Health Organization found that France provided the "close to best overall health care" in the world.
About 62 percent of French hospital capacity is met by publicly owned and managed hospitals. The remaining capacity is split evenly (18% each) between non-profit sector hospitals (which are linked to the public sector and which tend to be owned by foundations, religious organizations or mutual-insurance associations) and by for-profit institutions.
Around 65% of hospital beds in France are provided by public hospitals, around 15% by private non-profit organizations, and 20% by for-profit companies.
Finally, for fees that the mandatory system does not cover, there is a large range of private complementary insurance plans available. The market for these programs is very competitive. Such insurance is often subsidised by the employer, which means that premiums are usually modest. 85% of French people benefit from complementary private health insurance.[
Historian Dannielle Horan claims that while many in the US deride the French system as "socialized medicine," the French do not consider their mixed public and private system "socialized" and the population tends to look down upon British- and Canadian-style socialized medicine. | | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 23:44 - Jan 27 with 2507 views | Brightonhoop |
Superb £9 Billion pot hole. Why do you suck this sh1t up? | | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 23:49 - Jan 27 with 2498 views | MrSheen |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 23:44 - Jan 27 by Brightonhoop |
Superb £9 Billion pot hole. Why do you suck this sh1t up? |
UK government, as per the link. Where is your £1bn figure from? Roads are paid for out of central and local government, and consist of a capital (i.e. new roads) and maintenance budget. £1bn may have been one of these figures, but £9bn is the total spend.
Do you have reason to call my numbers shit, other than contradicting yours? Pray tell. | | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 23:51 - Jan 27 with 2490 views | Brightonhoop |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 23:41 - Jan 27 by MrSheen |
No place for private in public services? French healthcare...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_France
In its 2000 assessment of world health care systems, the World Health Organization found that France provided the "close to best overall health care" in the world.
About 62 percent of French hospital capacity is met by publicly owned and managed hospitals. The remaining capacity is split evenly (18% each) between non-profit sector hospitals (which are linked to the public sector and which tend to be owned by foundations, religious organizations or mutual-insurance associations) and by for-profit institutions.
Around 65% of hospital beds in France are provided by public hospitals, around 15% by private non-profit organizations, and 20% by for-profit companies.
Finally, for fees that the mandatory system does not cover, there is a large range of private complementary insurance plans available. The market for these programs is very competitive. Such insurance is often subsidised by the employer, which means that premiums are usually modest. 85% of French people benefit from complementary private health insurance.[
Historian Dannielle Horan claims that while many in the US deride the French system as "socialized medicine," the French do not consider their mixed public and private system "socialized" and the population tends to look down upon British- and Canadian-style socialized medicine. |
NHS was the worlds envy, not an alternative fact. I'm not clued up on French, Excuse me. They still strike at the drop of a hat. Keeps the evil in check.
UK pays for French and German electric and trains. Not an alternative fact either.
Seriously, £9 Bil did not fix a pot hole? That's a story isn't it, best sweep that one under the NHS carpet or Trump/ebay may not buy. | | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 23:52 - Jan 27 with 2489 views | MrSheen |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 23:51 - Jan 27 by Brightonhoop |
NHS was the worlds envy, not an alternative fact. I'm not clued up on French, Excuse me. They still strike at the drop of a hat. Keeps the evil in check.
UK pays for French and German electric and trains. Not an alternative fact either.
Seriously, £9 Bil did not fix a pot hole? That's a story isn't it, best sweep that one under the NHS carpet or Trump/ebay may not buy. |
So you don't have a source for your wholly invented numbers. Cheers for that. Keep ranting. | | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 00:08 - Jan 28 with 2467 views | sevenhoop |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 23:52 - Jan 27 by MrSheen |
So you don't have a source for your wholly invented numbers. Cheers for that. Keep ranting. |
It's all he ever does mrsheen. I'd hate to inhabit his green-eyed, bitter, loads-of-people-have-got-what-I can't-have world. What a miserable place to be. Why not concentrate on improving your own lot rather than be so constantly bloody negative about this country? And if you really hate everything here so much, search the world for your socialist eutopia and go and enjoy living in it. |  | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 00:54 - Jan 28 with 2431 views | Brightonhoop |
It does not need an internet link. The Germans own the rail franchises. The French own your electric. They are not alternative facts, You work for them.
NHS? Trumps. You voted out, get over it, move on. UK voted out with nowhere to run or hide.
Have a cuppa. Put the kettle on and subsidise French electric. You dont even know your pants were took down. 25 years ago. Suck it up. | | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 06:46 - Jan 28 with 2352 views | Hoop_Du_Jour |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 23:08 - Jan 27 by Brightonhoop |
Because Trump is going to cherry pick assets ahead of him. |
The brexit vote was long before the US vote and Branson was wheeled out to tell us to vote REMAIN! Still he wants a remain type brexit, nothing to do with Trump. | | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 07:34 - Jan 28 with 2308 views | BrianMcCarthy |
To be honest, I thought that May came across as desperate and amateurish.
It's obvious that Britain needs the U.S. now that it is out of Europe but there was no need for May to go all Dickensian with the begging bowl straight away. She reminded me of the pathetic Irish politicians who fawn all over the White House every St. Patrick's Day.
By rushing over there immediately and by being so subservient she has just made the negotiations on a Britain-U.S. trade deal much, much harder for her Country. As despicable as Thatcher was, she would never have made this mistake. |  |
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| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 07:50 - Jan 28 with 2297 views | CanadaRanger |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 07:34 - Jan 28 by BrianMcCarthy |
To be honest, I thought that May came across as desperate and amateurish.
It's obvious that Britain needs the U.S. now that it is out of Europe but there was no need for May to go all Dickensian with the begging bowl straight away. She reminded me of the pathetic Irish politicians who fawn all over the White House every St. Patrick's Day.
By rushing over there immediately and by being so subservient she has just made the negotiations on a Britain-U.S. trade deal much, much harder for her Country. As despicable as Thatcher was, she would never have made this mistake. |
I think it's a win-win.
They both need the deal. |  | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 08:23 - Jan 28 with 2276 views | HantsR |
So lovely to see them hand in hand today, but I think she's just making sure she knows what he's doing with his hands. |  | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 08:30 - Jan 28 with 2271 views | TW_R |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 00:54 - Jan 28 by Brightonhoop |
It does not need an internet link. The Germans own the rail franchises. The French own your electric. They are not alternative facts, You work for them.
NHS? Trumps. You voted out, get over it, move on. UK voted out with nowhere to run or hide.
Have a cuppa. Put the kettle on and subsidise French electric. You dont even know your pants were took down. 25 years ago. Suck it up. |
I don't want to be rude mate but do you just make his shit up because you like an argument? Half the rail franchises in the UK are run by British companies. 1 out of the "big six" energy companies is French. |  | | |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 12:01 - Jan 28 with 2134 views | Brightonhoop |
| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 08:30 - Jan 28 by TW_R |
I don't want to be rude mate but do you just make his shit up because you like an argument? Half the rail franchises in the UK are run by British companies. 1 out of the "big six" energy companies is French. |
I dont think you're being rude, and no it is not 'made up', I couldn't be arsed to dig out the details and links but a little digging will show several of the Rail Franchises are owned by German Co's who use the profits to subsidise german train travel. The point I was making that the charge to sell everything off 30 years ago is financially benefiting the French and Germans more than the Brits.
So May being so subserviant to Trump is going to be a disaster for the UK's remaining assetts, the Yanks have already stated an intention to take them. The NHS is highly likely to be one of them in any trade deal.
And I would prefer to see the UK prosper post Brexit and Trump because I still have family there, still work within the economy and take no delight at all in the bleak future that is slowly but surely emerging for the whole country. It is very sad to watch from a distance. [Post edited 28 Jan 2017 12:08]
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| Tonight I am ashamed of my country's leader on 22:43 - Jan 28 with 2027 views | easthertsr |
Ok she has now refused to condemn Trump's racist ban on people entering the US. I am more than ever ashamed of my countries leader. This isn't a matter for the US government, it is a matter for those of us who stand against all that is wrong with this nonsense. For goodness sake, have we really come to this? | | | |
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