Adam Johnson on 21:29 - Feb 16 with 1923 views | Jacandme |
Adam Johnson on 21:26 - Feb 16 by shandyjack | i am having a 'go' at you because you think it's right for a 30 year old man to sleep with a 15 year old girl, just because it's legal in that country. when it's frankly sick |
By suggesting he is sleeping with her suggests that she is not complicit. So I would not agree. If you worded it that two legal consentual people wanted to make love then I would agree. Language is everything in emotive subjects such as this, and it is clear people are doing their best to use language to manipulate this debate which is very dangerous indeed. | | | |
Adam Johnson on 21:29 - Feb 16 with 1922 views | londonlisa2001 |
Adam Johnson on 21:27 - Feb 16 by Jacandme | Again, read the question. The question was that she WAS of legal age. You cannot take an answer to one question and attribute it to a completely different question. |
It's really pretty simple. You were asked if it's ok for your daughter (underage daughter) to have sex with a man of 26 and you said yes. Full stop. Explain all you like, I find that attitude to be disgusting and pretty scary if I'm honest. [Post edited 16 Feb 2016 21:31]
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Adam Johnson on 21:30 - Feb 16 with 1915 views | Jacandme |
Adam Johnson on 21:26 - Feb 16 by exiledclaseboy | I find you genuinely unsettling. I'll leave you to it. |
Then you find the country you live in unsettling. Im fine with that. | | | |
Adam Johnson on 21:32 - Feb 16 with 1898 views | Jacandme |
Adam Johnson on 21:29 - Feb 16 by londonlisa2001 | It's really pretty simple. You were asked if it's ok for your daughter (underage daughter) to have sex with a man of 26 and you said yes. Full stop. Explain all you like, I find that attitude to be disgusting and pretty scary if I'm honest. [Post edited 16 Feb 2016 21:31]
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No, no I wasn't. I would never wish my daughter to have underage sex, so unkess you understand the sebject and the questions being asked then I would suggest you refrain from commenting further. | | | |
Adam Johnson on 21:32 - Feb 16 with 1897 views | shandyjack |
Adam Johnson on 21:29 - Feb 16 by Jacandme | By suggesting he is sleeping with her suggests that she is not complicit. So I would not agree. If you worded it that two legal consentual people wanted to make love then I would agree. Language is everything in emotive subjects such as this, and it is clear people are doing their best to use language to manipulate this debate which is very dangerous indeed. |
Raping her suggests she is non complicent not sleeping with her. Sleeping with her/him is a common term to describe 2 people having sex | |
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Adam Johnson on 21:33 - Feb 16 with 1886 views | exiledclaseboy |
Adam Johnson on 21:30 - Feb 16 by Jacandme | Then you find the country you live in unsettling. Im fine with that. |
No. Most people find the thought of 26 year old men going out of their way to have sexual relations with 15 year old girls fairly sickening. You don't. You seem quite relaxed at the prospect as long as it complies with the law. That's unsettling. [Post edited 16 Feb 2016 21:34]
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Adam Johnson on 21:33 - Feb 16 with 1883 views | Jacandme |
Adam Johnson on 21:32 - Feb 16 by shandyjack | Raping her suggests she is non complicent not sleeping with her. Sleeping with her/him is a common term to describe 2 people having sex |
Not in my realm. I have given the two answers to the differently worded questions.they both echo the law of the country you live in. | | | |
Adam Johnson on 21:35 - Feb 16 with 1867 views | shandyjack |
Adam Johnson on 21:33 - Feb 16 by exiledclaseboy | No. Most people find the thought of 26 year old men going out of their way to have sexual relations with 15 year old girls fairly sickening. You don't. You seem quite relaxed at the prospect as long as it complies with the law. That's unsettling. [Post edited 16 Feb 2016 21:34]
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i find it unsettling for him to do it to a 16 year old and if it was a woman with a man. It's not right,the children arn't fully developed yet and still some of them going through puberty and changes in their bodies they don't even understand fully | |
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Adam Johnson on 21:36 - Feb 16 with 1858 views | londonlisa2001 |
Adam Johnson on 21:32 - Feb 16 by Jacandme | No, no I wasn't. I would never wish my daughter to have underage sex, so unkess you understand the sebject and the questions being asked then I would suggest you refrain from commenting further. |
Yes well I would suggest you refrain from having children until you become less of a creep but we can't all get what we want can we. | | | |
Adam Johnson on 21:36 - Feb 16 with 1854 views | shandyjack |
Adam Johnson on 21:33 - Feb 16 by Jacandme | Not in my realm. I have given the two answers to the differently worded questions.they both echo the law of the country you live in. |
well i think we can all agree that we are glad we don't live in your realm where by we'd be ok with our 15 year old daughters/sons sleeping with a 26 year old man/woman | |
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Adam Johnson on 21:37 - Feb 16 with 1844 views | exiledclaseboy |
Adam Johnson on 21:35 - Feb 16 by shandyjack | i find it unsettling for him to do it to a 16 year old and if it was a woman with a man. It's not right,the children arn't fully developed yet and still some of them going through puberty and changes in their bodies they don't even understand fully |
Of course. As I said, the only difference if Johnson's victim had been 16 is that he wouldn't be breaking the law. He'd still be a scumbag. | |
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Adam Johnson on 21:38 - Feb 16 with 1840 views | shandyjack |
Adam Johnson on 21:37 - Feb 16 by exiledclaseboy | Of course. As I said, the only difference if Johnson's victim had been 16 is that he wouldn't be breaking the law. He'd still be a scumbag. |
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Adam Johnson on 21:38 - Feb 16 with 1838 views | Jacandme |
Adam Johnson on 21:33 - Feb 16 by exiledclaseboy | No. Most people find the thought of 26 year old men going out of their way to have sexual relations with 15 year old girls fairly sickening. You don't. You seem quite relaxed at the prospect as long as it complies with the law. That's unsettling. [Post edited 16 Feb 2016 21:34]
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No. Ive not mentioned anything about anybody going out of their way to do anything. My only opinion on the matter is that:- if people are deemed to be of consentual age then we cannot dictate who they should and shouldn't be allowed to decide to have relations with, if you feel they still need dictating to then what is the point in them being of consentual age? As said before, im not entirely comfortable with and 80 year old being with a 30 year old either. But not being comfortable with and accepting it is their own choice are rwo differing things. | | | |
Adam Johnson on 21:40 - Feb 16 with 1828 views | Jacandme |
Adam Johnson on 21:36 - Feb 16 by londonlisa2001 | Yes well I would suggest you refrain from having children until you become less of a creep but we can't all get what we want can we. |
Then I woukd suggest you mive to a country where you feel their laws are less "creepy" and refrain from reproducing until willing to treat them with the respect the laws if the kand are intended to afford them. But of course, that is just a suggestion. | | | |
Adam Johnson on 21:41 - Feb 16 with 1818 views | exiledclaseboy |
Adam Johnson on 21:38 - Feb 16 by Jacandme | No. Ive not mentioned anything about anybody going out of their way to do anything. My only opinion on the matter is that:- if people are deemed to be of consentual age then we cannot dictate who they should and shouldn't be allowed to decide to have relations with, if you feel they still need dictating to then what is the point in them being of consentual age? As said before, im not entirely comfortable with and 80 year old being with a 30 year old either. But not being comfortable with and accepting it is their own choice are rwo differing things. |
I'm not attempted my to dictate anything to anyone. I'm just pointing out that it's not right for 26 year old men to be having sex with 15 or 16 year old girls. You're fine with that. Dodgy, but your prerogative I suppose. Unsettling though. | |
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Adam Johnson on 21:41 - Feb 16 with 1816 views | Jacandme |
Adam Johnson on 21:37 - Feb 16 by exiledclaseboy | Of course. As I said, the only difference if Johnson's victim had been 16 is that he wouldn't be breaking the law. He'd still be a scumbag. |
And of course, that she would not be a victim. But I have already made the point of manipulative language havent I. | | | |
Adam Johnson on 21:42 - Feb 16 with 1810 views | Jacandme |
Adam Johnson on 21:41 - Feb 16 by exiledclaseboy | I'm not attempted my to dictate anything to anyone. I'm just pointing out that it's not right for 26 year old men to be having sex with 15 or 16 year old girls. You're fine with that. Dodgy, but your prerogative I suppose. Unsettling though. |
The law of the land you live in disagrees, if both consentual parties are happy that is. [Post edited 16 Feb 2016 21:43]
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Adam Johnson on 22:00 - Feb 16 with 1758 views | skippyjack |
Adam Johnson on 21:02 - Feb 16 by Jackfath | Can you? To do what? |
Yes you can.. i did. | |
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Adam Johnson on 22:09 - Feb 16 with 1736 views | AngelRangelQS |
Adam Johnson on 21:40 - Feb 16 by Jacandme | Then I woukd suggest you mive to a country where you feel their laws are less "creepy" and refrain from reproducing until willing to treat them with the respect the laws if the kand are intended to afford them. But of course, that is just a suggestion. |
The laws of this country are 16 though so what are you talking about? | | | |
Adam Johnson on 22:11 - Feb 16 with 1729 views | skippyjack |
Adam Johnson on 21:14 - Feb 16 by Swanjack10 | Another vile poster my friend,he should be arrested for that ,whats the matter with some,i guess he has no kids ,13 you sick twa. t |
Vile for what? suggesting that a 13 year old adolescent should be able to have sex with a 19 year old adolescent. Studies prove that 13 year old adolescent females, mature 2 years quicker than 13 year old males.. therefore have a mind frame of 15 years old, compared to males. Therefore a 13 year old develops a mind frame of a 15 year old. Arrest me for speaking facts! | |
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Adam Johnson on 22:13 - Feb 16 with 1673 views | Jacandme |
Adam Johnson on 22:09 - Feb 16 by AngelRangelQS | The laws of this country are 16 though so what are you talking about? |
You have answered your own question there. Giving people the right to choose and make their own decisions, of whom are of legal and consentual age - is my opinion. | | | |
Adam Johnson on 22:15 - Feb 16 with 1667 views | Jacandme |
Adam Johnson on 22:11 - Feb 16 by skippyjack | Vile for what? suggesting that a 13 year old adolescent should be able to have sex with a 19 year old adolescent. Studies prove that 13 year old adolescent females, mature 2 years quicker than 13 year old males.. therefore have a mind frame of 15 years old, compared to males. Therefore a 13 year old develops a mind frame of a 15 year old. Arrest me for speaking facts! |
Disagree with that. Even by your judgement you woukd be allowing 13 year old immature males to have sex. | | | |
Adam Johnson on 22:21 - Feb 16 with 1651 views | Dewi1jack |
Adam Johnson on 21:38 - Feb 16 by Jacandme | No. Ive not mentioned anything about anybody going out of their way to do anything. My only opinion on the matter is that:- if people are deemed to be of consentual age then we cannot dictate who they should and shouldn't be allowed to decide to have relations with, if you feel they still need dictating to then what is the point in them being of consentual age? As said before, im not entirely comfortable with and 80 year old being with a 30 year old either. But not being comfortable with and accepting it is their own choice are rwo differing things. |
Consensual age in the UK is 16. You've stated that you'd be happy for your 15 year old daughter to be screwing the bollox (as you don't understand sleeping together) off someone who's 26- providing it's legal. No one said anything about outside of Britain Answer the questions you've been asked. What is your recommended minimum age limit for consensual sex, as there are so-called mature kids of 13 having sprogs with grannies in their early to mid 20's Is it ok for an 8 year old to be having sex as she's married and it's legal in their country. And to answer your quote "You think it is frightening that I believe people should be allowed to make lawful decisions? Isn't the opposite basically fascism or a form of dictatorship? If people wish to make decisions in their life that are legal then they should be allowed to make the,. In favt it is illegal to do the opposite." 15 years old having sex with anyone is not fukin legal in the UK. So how the fuk is it a lawful decision (tip; learn the difference between legal and lawful, they aren't the same.) We live in the UK. The EU has not stated a minimum age limit, instead leaving it to the National government to set the minimum. I for one am reasonably happy with the country I live in. I was happy to take the Queens £5 and put a uniform on as well. I follow all laws and most legal rules and regs (do not confuse law with legal here.) All law is based on Common Law, which is used to protect all people and property in the UK from criminal harm. So, you being happy with the knowledge that your 15yr old could be shagging a 26 year old, providing that was her decision as she's mature enough, is neither lawful nor legal. Nor according to the various Acts and laws of the country in place, would it be consensual sex either. The simple term for non consensual sex is rape. With someone underage it becomes Paedophillia according to the statutes in place, no matter how mature a 15 year old is You knowing your 15yr old daughter was shagging someone (if she was and you knew about it) who the UN/ EU/ GB consider an adult and not reporting it, could be construed as grooming by you. Seriously. If I was you, I'd delete my user name on here and make sure no-one found out my new one. And never post on an underage sex or rape subject again. Guessing you may have been one of the few defending Chedwyn as well. I'm not being Fascist/ Communist or Dictatorial. Nor do I have any desire to censor you. You have dug yourself a very deep hole. I feel sorry for your daughter and hope to God you have no more daughters. Or if you do, then your better half takes care of the morality lessons | |
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Adam Johnson on 22:33 - Feb 16 with 1610 views | Jacandme |
Adam Johnson on 22:21 - Feb 16 by Dewi1jack | Consensual age in the UK is 16. You've stated that you'd be happy for your 15 year old daughter to be screwing the bollox (as you don't understand sleeping together) off someone who's 26- providing it's legal. No one said anything about outside of Britain Answer the questions you've been asked. What is your recommended minimum age limit for consensual sex, as there are so-called mature kids of 13 having sprogs with grannies in their early to mid 20's Is it ok for an 8 year old to be having sex as she's married and it's legal in their country. And to answer your quote "You think it is frightening that I believe people should be allowed to make lawful decisions? Isn't the opposite basically fascism or a form of dictatorship? If people wish to make decisions in their life that are legal then they should be allowed to make the,. In favt it is illegal to do the opposite." 15 years old having sex with anyone is not fukin legal in the UK. So how the fuk is it a lawful decision (tip; learn the difference between legal and lawful, they aren't the same.) We live in the UK. The EU has not stated a minimum age limit, instead leaving it to the National government to set the minimum. I for one am reasonably happy with the country I live in. I was happy to take the Queens £5 and put a uniform on as well. I follow all laws and most legal rules and regs (do not confuse law with legal here.) All law is based on Common Law, which is used to protect all people and property in the UK from criminal harm. So, you being happy with the knowledge that your 15yr old could be shagging a 26 year old, providing that was her decision as she's mature enough, is neither lawful nor legal. Nor according to the various Acts and laws of the country in place, would it be consensual sex either. The simple term for non consensual sex is rape. With someone underage it becomes Paedophillia according to the statutes in place, no matter how mature a 15 year old is You knowing your 15yr old daughter was shagging someone (if she was and you knew about it) who the UN/ EU/ GB consider an adult and not reporting it, could be construed as grooming by you. Seriously. If I was you, I'd delete my user name on here and make sure no-one found out my new one. And never post on an underage sex or rape subject again. Guessing you may have been one of the few defending Chedwyn as well. I'm not being Fascist/ Communist or Dictatorial. Nor do I have any desire to censor you. You have dug yourself a very deep hole. I feel sorry for your daughter and hope to God you have no more daughters. Or if you do, then your better half takes care of the morality lessons |
"Consensual age in the UK is 16. You've stated that you'd be happy for your 15 year old daughter to be screwing the bollox (as you don't understand sleeping together) off someone who's 26- providing it's legal. No one said anything about outside of Britain" **Incorrect, it was clearly stated that it was outside of Britain. I also didnt say id be happy, I said I would support her decision. Any more sensationalist rubbish and inaccurate points you want to make?** "Answer the questions you've been asked. What is your recommended minimum age limit for consensual sex, as there are so-called mature kids of 13 having sprogs with grannies in their early to mid 20's Is it ok for an 8 year old to be having sex as she's married and it's legal in their country" **I have answered that question if you were bothered about understanding the discussion. My answer was 15/16 - the age many decide to have sexual relations. I am not going to quote your next paragraph because it is huge, and irrelevant, because my answer is simple:- I have never claimed it is legal.** "Seriously. If I was you, I'd delete my user name on here and make sure no-one found out my new one. And never post on an underage sex or rape subject again. Guessing you may have been one of the few defending Chedwyn as well. I'm not being Fascist/ Communist or Dictatorial. Nor do I have any desire to censor you. You have dug yourself a very deep hole. I feel sorry for your daughter and hope to God you have no more daughters. Or if you do, then your better half takes care of the morality lessons" **I am completely happy with my opinion, there is no hole to be dug. I believe in giving people of consentual age the right to decide who they wish to excercise their right to make love to. That is nothing to hide from, it is supporting and upholding the law we as a society live by. In fairness you also would seemingly disown your daughter if she made a perfectly legal life choice, so please dont be offended that I do not take your suggestion seriously regarding what you have posted.** [Post edited 16 Feb 2016 22:36]
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