| Ramsey takes the long walk, but the root cause of the problems remains - Column on 07:14 - Nov 7 with 1156 views | Northolt_Rs |
| Ramsey takes the long walk, but the root cause of the problems remains - Column on 09:10 - Nov 6 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
You are correct
But again I say the club had been in a hole a long time before TF turned up
He did what a lot of fans wanted in sticking with managers, experienced managers at that, after years of changing since Holloway.
Gary Waddock
John Gregory
Mick Harford
Luigi De Canio
Iain Dowie
Gareth Ainsworth
Paulo Sousa
Gareth Ainsworth
Jim Magilton
Marc Bircham
Paul Hart
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In a hole when Fernandes arrived? We'd just won promotion to the Prem after storming the Championship. The current phuck up is all Bungle's own work. We've ended up back in the Championship, with the same manager and a worse team - and lost £200 Million to get here. |  |
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| Ramsey takes the long walk, but the root cause of the problems remains - Column on 07:56 - Nov 7 with 1142 views | JonDoeman |
| Ramsey takes the long walk, but the root cause of the problems remains - Column on 07:14 - Nov 7 by Northolt_Rs |
In a hole when Fernandes arrived? We'd just won promotion to the Prem after storming the Championship. The current phuck up is all Bungle's own work. We've ended up back in the Championship, with the same manager and a worse team - and lost £200 Million to get here. |
When you put it like that !  |  |
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| Ramsey takes the long walk, but the root cause of the problems remains - Column on 08:26 - Nov 7 with 1114 views | Pommyhoop |
| Ramsey takes the long walk, but the root cause of the problems remains - Column on 07:14 - Nov 7 by Northolt_Rs |
In a hole when Fernandes arrived? We'd just won promotion to the Prem after storming the Championship. The current phuck up is all Bungle's own work. We've ended up back in the Championship, with the same manager and a worse team - and lost £200 Million to get here. |
Yep we had our hands on the Golden Fleece but TF chucked it in the corner and let Hughes and Redknapp piss all over it.. |  |
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| Ramsey takes the long walk, but the root cause of the problems remains - Column on 09:37 - Nov 7 with 1083 views | WeaverQPR |
Blame the structure of the club if you like but the fact he lost 50% of his games and played terrible football is what's done it imo. |  |
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| Ramsey takes the long walk, but the root cause of the problems remains - Column on 09:49 - Nov 7 with 1070 views | 2Thomas2Bowles |
| Ramsey takes the long walk, but the root cause of the problems remains - Column on 07:14 - Nov 7 by Northolt_Rs |
In a hole when Fernandes arrived? We'd just won promotion to the Prem after storming the Championship. The current phuck up is all Bungle's own work. We've ended up back in the Championship, with the same manager and a worse team - and lost £200 Million to get here. |
I agree, that's why NW is not on that list , but one swallow and all that
Our campaigns in the prem have been dreadful but lets not forget the fans banners saying Harry come save us.
Some are saying on another thread we should have stuck with NW, that's ok in hindsight but many did not believe he was a Prem manager at the time and wanted a change.
You would have all blamed TF if he had left NW in charge and we had been relegated
Seems to me TF give you what you ask for but in CR's case it was a massive mistake to make him /coach/manager. I don't believe it's just down to TF that he is gone, I think it's a consensuses of the whole club, based not only on results, there have been poor decisions on and of the field that showed he is just not manager materiel. |  |
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| Ramsey takes the long walk, but the root cause of the problems remains - Column on 10:25 - Nov 7 with 1046 views | GetMeRangers |
| Ramsey takes the long walk, but the root cause of the problems remains - Column on 09:49 - Nov 7 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
I agree, that's why NW is not on that list , but one swallow and all that
Our campaigns in the prem have been dreadful but lets not forget the fans banners saying Harry come save us.
Some are saying on another thread we should have stuck with NW, that's ok in hindsight but many did not believe he was a Prem manager at the time and wanted a change.
You would have all blamed TF if he had left NW in charge and we had been relegated
Seems to me TF give you what you ask for but in CR's case it was a massive mistake to make him /coach/manager. I don't believe it's just down to TF that he is gone, I think it's a consensuses of the whole club, based not only on results, there have been poor decisions on and of the field that showed he is just not manager materiel. |
CR was brought in to do a different job. he proved not to be a very good manager, but that wasnt really his remit. It was to consolidate and, whether you believe it or not, but bring in a different type of player.... young, that needs developing and with a long term view to getting QPR to a place where they can return to the PL when the team are ready to compete properly there.
TF changed that with "promotion means everything". Little doubt, with the players recruited, IMO, and not the perfect recruitment by Les, that CR, cutting his teeth in management, was ever likely to succeed.
This has TF fingerprints all over it, IMO. As many point out, at what point are we going to look at whether it is something else, other than whoever we appoint as manager, that is the problem at QPR |  | | |
| Ramsey takes the long walk, but the root cause of the problems remains - Column on 15:42 - Nov 7 with 1001 views | derbyhoop |
Very detailed and incisive analysis of why it is so difficult to make serious long term progress at our beloved club.
The killer for me was that the detested Hughes was successful before us and has been successful since. In all cases the clubs he was managing had far more realistic expectations of what the club and its manager could achieve.
IMHO, Ramsey was a good choice when the target was consolidation and we expected to lose most of our so-called "star" players. When the remit changed he was found wanting - not helped by the underperformance of so many. |  |
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