| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 20:27 - Feb 10 with 1895 views | A_Fans_Dad |
When Bony first came to Swansea and he played his first few games I thought my god what a waste of money, I wouldn't have paid £2m for him.
But over time it has become obvious that he wasn't very fit or prepared for the speed and physicality of the Prem even though he is built like rock.
He was slow, lacked incoming ball control, was very slow off the mark and tired very quickly. He looked out of place in the Swans side.
His upper body ball control, holding of the ball, power of shot, skill and speed once he got going, heading and even his defending were all good though.
Since he has got fitter and played more he has got much better and is a rock on the edge of the opponents box.
However he is still a bit slow off the mark and that is the main reason he needs really good service if the ball is going to his feet in front of him.
So now with 8 Prem goals behind him he looks more like £12m player, if he continues to improve he will increase in value. |  | |  |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:03 - Feb 10 with 1831 views | Dr_Winston |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 20:27 - Feb 10 by A_Fans_Dad |
When Bony first came to Swansea and he played his first few games I thought my god what a waste of money, I wouldn't have paid £2m for him.
But over time it has become obvious that he wasn't very fit or prepared for the speed and physicality of the Prem even though he is built like rock.
He was slow, lacked incoming ball control, was very slow off the mark and tired very quickly. He looked out of place in the Swans side.
His upper body ball control, holding of the ball, power of shot, skill and speed once he got going, heading and even his defending were all good though.
Since he has got fitter and played more he has got much better and is a rock on the edge of the opponents box.
However he is still a bit slow off the mark and that is the main reason he needs really good service if the ball is going to his feet in front of him.
So now with 8 Prem goals behind him he looks more like £12m player, if he continues to improve he will increase in value. |
"When Bony first came to Swansea and he played his first few games I thought my god what a waste of money"
He scored four goals in his first four games. Six in his first nine. The idea that he was somehow not very good to begin with is a popular one, but for the life of me I cannot work out why. |  |
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:16 - Feb 10 with 1791 views | waynekerr55 |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:03 - Feb 10 by Dr_Winston |
"When Bony first came to Swansea and he played his first few games I thought my god what a waste of money"
He scored four goals in his first four games. Six in his first nine. The idea that he was somehow not very good to begin with is a popular one, but for the life of me I cannot work out why. |
Cos he doesn't run around see. Or do silly Cruyff turns for Soccer AM. |  |
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:22 - Feb 10 with 1773 views | Jokeren1943 |
Just show how much crap there are in the newpapers. [Post edited 10 Feb 2014 21:22]
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:29 - Feb 10 with 1739 views | Dr_Winston |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:16 - Feb 10 by waynekerr55 |
Cos he doesn't run around see. Or do silly Cruyff turns for Soccer AM. |
His ability was obvious from the start. All he needed was a consistent run in the side and team mates who played to his strengths.
Had Laudrup done that instead of f*cking about with a half fit Michu then maybe he'd still be in a job. | |
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:35 - Feb 10 with 1717 views | SwansNZ |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:03 - Feb 10 by Dr_Winston |
"When Bony first came to Swansea and he played his first few games I thought my god what a waste of money"
He scored four goals in his first four games. Six in his first nine. The idea that he was somehow not very good to begin with is a popular one, but for the life of me I cannot work out why. |
it's only the premier league goals that counted, I think - anyone Tom, Dick or Itay could score in the Europa or COC  |  |
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:35 - Feb 10 with 1715 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:03 - Feb 10 by Dr_Winston |
"When Bony first came to Swansea and he played his first few games I thought my god what a waste of money"
He scored four goals in his first four games. Six in his first nine. The idea that he was somehow not very good to begin with is a popular one, but for the life of me I cannot work out why. |
Yes 4 goals in 4 games, but only 1 goal in the first 6 premier league games.
It was the Premier I was talking about, not cup games.
He had
2 form 7
4 from 10
6 from 16
7 from 18
8 from 21
Even Nathan has had 5 from 16 and he is not a Striker. | | | |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:38 - Feb 10 with 1705 views | Dr_Winston |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:35 - Feb 10 by A_Fans_Dad |
Yes 4 goals in 4 games, but only 1 goal in the first 6 premier league games.
It was the Premier I was talking about, not cup games.
He had
2 form 7
4 from 10
6 from 16
7 from 18
8 from 21
Even Nathan has had 5 from 16 and he is not a Striker. |
Oh right. So cup games don't count.
Maybe we'd better hand the League Cup back. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:38 - Feb 10 with 1702 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:29 - Feb 10 by Dr_Winston |
His ability was obvious from the start. All he needed was a consistent run in the side and team mates who played to his strengths.
Had Laudrup done that instead of f*cking about with a half fit Michu then maybe he'd still be in a job. |
But I do agree about the consistent run and Michu should not have been played carrying injuries.
But I don't think Bony was really fit enough at the start, but now he is and his potential is really showing through. | | | |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:39 - Feb 10 with 1700 views | SwansNZ |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:35 - Feb 10 by A_Fans_Dad |
Yes 4 goals in 4 games, but only 1 goal in the first 6 premier league games.
It was the Premier I was talking about, not cup games.
He had
2 form 7
4 from 10
6 from 16
7 from 18
8 from 21
Even Nathan has had 5 from 16 and he is not a Striker. |
 I was right | |
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:44 - Feb 10 with 1678 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:38 - Feb 10 by Dr_Winston |
Oh right. So cup games don't count.
Maybe we'd better hand the League Cup back. |
You just love to twist words don't you?
My original post was talking about his suitability for the Prem, that was my concern. | | | |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:49 - Feb 10 with 1658 views | RogueTrooper |
Bony is an awesome striker. Lots take a while to get into their stride when they enter the premier league, I feel I can safely say he's just getting into his stride, and I for one am loving it. He's going to be a massive (literally) asset to us |  |
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:53 - Feb 10 with 1640 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:49 - Feb 10 by RogueTrooper |
Bony is an awesome striker. Lots take a while to get into their stride when they enter the premier league, I feel I can safely say he's just getting into his stride, and I for one am loving it. He's going to be a massive (literally) asset to us |
I agree!
But it just wasn't so obvious at the start.
It only took Michu 8 games to get 6 goals.
It will be interesting to see how many Bony can rack up by the end of the season. | | | |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:57 - Feb 10 with 1631 views | RogueTrooper |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:53 - Feb 10 by A_Fans_Dad |
I agree!
But it just wasn't so obvious at the start.
It only took Michu 8 games to get 6 goals.
It will be interesting to see how many Bony can rack up by the end of the season. |
Michu is an exception to a rule | |
| "If you ladies leave my island, if you survive recruit training, you will be a weapon. You will be a minister of death praying for war. But until that day you are pukes. You are the lowest form of life on Earth. You are not even human furcking beings! You are nothing but unorganized, grabastic pieces of amphibian sh1t! Because I am hard, you will not like me. But the more you hate me the more you will learn." |
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 22:49 - Feb 10 with 1559 views | blaine_scfc |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:57 - Feb 10 by RogueTrooper |
Michu is an exception to a rule |
That was the problem, we signed Chico for pennies and he was banging them in left right and centre from the start, we when we go and smash our transfer record on Bony, supporters expected miracles straight away. Never works like that, as the above post states, Michu is an exception. |  | | |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 22:55 - Feb 10 with 1549 views | SwansNZ |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:57 - Feb 10 by RogueTrooper |
Michu is an exception to a rule |
He is indeed.
Of course, ML never gave Bony a good run in the team (in the PL), so it would have been harder for him. In the first 12 PL games, Bony only started 6 games, and never more than 2 consecutive games | |
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 23:27 - Feb 10 with 1513 views | RogueTrooper |
Michu also had a full pre season with the club. We can't expect more from from bony so far than he's already given, he's up there with the best in the league on recent form without that much service. Last season we were begging for a good header of the ball and someone who will take a shot from outside the box. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Wilfried Bony, a player that even Ash is glad he only has to take on on a training ground | |
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 05:53 - Feb 11 with 1437 views | Dr_Winston |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:44 - Feb 10 by A_Fans_Dad |
You just love to twist words don't you?
My original post was talking about his suitability for the Prem, that was my concern. |
I directly quoted you. What words were there to twist?
You can't pick and choose what games you include when you make statements like that. What you said was silly. The stats (and let's be honest, just f*cking watching him play) make a nonsense of it. | |
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 09:41 - Feb 11 with 1351 views | Catullus |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:16 - Feb 10 by waynekerr55 |
Cos he doesn't run around see. Or do silly Cruyff turns for Soccer AM. |
He doesn't do silly turns but he certainly runs around!! And he's one of our best defenders at set pieces too, he's won a number of important headers in our box.
I thought we'd all agreed a while back that he was a great signing who just needed better service? | |
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 09:50 - Feb 11 with 1342 views | Zut_Alors |
You know I still don't think we're quite working to his full potential. I'd love to see more low crosses from the byline to his feet. He scored a few like that in the Europa and with our wingers out wide, we can hopefully see more of it. Pablo can play a great low cross on occasion, be great to see more from him. |  | | |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 11:23 - Feb 11 with 1272 views | JackSomething |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:29 - Feb 10 by Dr_Winston |
His ability was obvious from the start. All he needed was a consistent run in the side and team mates who played to his strengths.
Had Laudrup done that instead of f*cking about with a half fit Michu then maybe he'd still be in a job. |
Innit. It was clear from his first start against Malmo and his goalscoring sub appearance against United that he had the ability.
Most understood that he would take some time to adapt to a new league and new team, especially without a proper preseason with us, but saw enough that we knew he'd be fine.
The reactionary types threw their toys out of the pram because he didn't start as well as Michu did and are now being made to look rather silly.
Thank f**k he hasn't had the kind of season that Soldado (£26m), Osvaldo (£15m), Cornelius (£7.5m) or van Wolfswinkel (£8.5m) have had eh?
There's an argument that only Negredo was a better striker signing in the league this season, unless I'm forgetting someone. Remy maybe would be in there. |  |
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 11:33 - Feb 11 with 1254 views | Dr_Winston |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 11:23 - Feb 11 by JackSomething |
Innit. It was clear from his first start against Malmo and his goalscoring sub appearance against United that he had the ability.
Most understood that he would take some time to adapt to a new league and new team, especially without a proper preseason with us, but saw enough that we knew he'd be fine.
The reactionary types threw their toys out of the pram because he didn't start as well as Michu did and are now being made to look rather silly.
Thank f**k he hasn't had the kind of season that Soldado (£26m), Osvaldo (£15m), Cornelius (£7.5m) or van Wolfswinkel (£8.5m) have had eh?
There's an argument that only Negredo was a better striker signing in the league this season, unless I'm forgetting someone. Remy maybe would be in there. |
I maintain that if Bony had had the kind of service that Negredo has for most of the season then he'd already be past the 20 goal mark. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 11:42 - Feb 11 with 1232 views | raynor94 |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 05:53 - Feb 11 by Dr_Winston |
I directly quoted you. What words were there to twist?
You can't pick and choose what games you include when you make statements like that. What you said was silly. The stats (and let's be honest, just f*cking watching him play) make a nonsense of it. |
Exactly, i love the way he's twisting his posts to suit his agenda |  |
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| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 12:13 - Feb 11 with 1210 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 21:38 - Feb 10 by Dr_Winston |
Oh right. So cup games don't count.
Maybe we'd better hand the League Cup back. |
The word twist is, did I say we should hand the league cup back, did I say that the league cup was not important?
You said "Maybe we'd better hand the League Cup back. " that is a "strawman arguement".
Funny I didn't notice Bony's contribution to that win though which is who we were talking about.
But lets go back to that early performance that you quoted including cups
6 goals in 9 games
against Michu's
7 in 9 Games.
Michu who was not even classed as a striker cost £2m.
I notice that you are bandying about striker signings for comparison, Defoe was on offer at £6m also scored 7 goals in 9 games and has gone on to score 10 this season.
But you are obviously right so silly me, I will bow to your god like ability to recognise that based on 9 Games Bony was worth 6 times as much as Michu. | | | |
| Bony's Message To Swans Fans? on 12:35 - Feb 11 with 1170 views | perchrockjack |
FRANKLY, you re wasting your time bitching as Bony has come good so who givesashuite who was right or wrong months ago. Being right or wrong negative or positive on a chat room isn't worth anything-no really .
Bony is turning into a great asset .
My opinion is that is he himself has stepped up his performances considerably and its great to see him holding off defenders as he does. He s our BEAST | |
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