| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 11:35 - Jan 29 with 2916 views | jojaca |
I would take big contract now. If he flops on loan, maybe his lucrative contract won't be there in the summer. |  |
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| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 11:36 - Jan 29 with 2906 views | caerleon_jack |
Got no problem with him putting himself in the shop window, and I'd imagine any club willing to take him on loan for rest of season understands the situation.
We could do with bringing in another option on the wing until the end of the season, and Ince fits the bill. If it happens that he's already got an agreement in place with Monaco or wherever for next season, so what? As long as he does the business for us whilst he's here (if he comes), that's what matters. Gylfi's impact two years ago wasn't diminished by the fact that he went elsewhere afterwards. |  |
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| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:21 - Jan 29 with 2714 views | Catullus |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 11:36 - Jan 29 by caerleon_jack |
Got no problem with him putting himself in the shop window, and I'd imagine any club willing to take him on loan for rest of season understands the situation.
We could do with bringing in another option on the wing until the end of the season, and Ince fits the bill. If it happens that he's already got an agreement in place with Monaco or wherever for next season, so what? As long as he does the business for us whilst he's here (if he comes), that's what matters. Gylfi's impact two years ago wasn't diminished by the fact that he went elsewhere afterwards. |
Reluctantly agree, don't like being used but if it works out for both parties then so be it! |  |
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| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:28 - Jan 29 with 2670 views | MattG |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:21 - Jan 29 by Catullus |
Reluctantly agree, don't like being used but if it works out for both parties then so be it! |
I think the matter of whether he already has something lined up for next year or not is very pertinent.
If (as seems to be the case) he doesn't, he needs to show what he can do and contribute positively over the remainder of the season - that would be good for whichever club he goes to.
If he does, he may be more inclined to try and ensure he doesn't get injured which, in turn, could impact on whatever contribution he might make - not so good. |  | | |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:31 - Jan 29 with 2631 views | karnataka |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:21 - Jan 29 by Catullus |
Reluctantly agree, don't like being used but if it works out for both parties then so be it! |
Certainly less risk than paying big money for someone who turns out to be a dud at this level. Is he better in the Championship than Sinclair was? Don't think so, so we don't know if he'd make the step up any more successfully than Scott did. If we need an extra winger for 4 months, a loan deal is perfect and we can reassess the overall winger situation in the summer. |  | | |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:32 - Jan 29 with 2619 views | dulaisjack |
time to move on from ince obvious is all self, just likes the attention, better watch he might fall flat on his face and end up an average championship player like sinclair, rather pilkington at least he can hack it in the premiership | | | |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:33 - Jan 29 with 2596 views | longlostjack |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:28 - Jan 29 by MattG |
I think the matter of whether he already has something lined up for next year or not is very pertinent.
If (as seems to be the case) he doesn't, he needs to show what he can do and contribute positively over the remainder of the season - that would be good for whichever club he goes to.
If he does, he may be more inclined to try and ensure he doesn't get injured which, in turn, could impact on whatever contribution he might make - not so good. |
The question is does he see himself as a squad player or a star - I suspect Laudrup would be interested in the answer. |  |
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| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:35 - Jan 29 with 2575 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:32 - Jan 29 by dulaisjack |
time to move on from ince obvious is all self, just likes the attention, better watch he might fall flat on his face and end up an average championship player like sinclair, rather pilkington at least he can hack it in the premiership |
The sad thing is it's his father who has the me me me attitude. Always had it as an average player.
His son doesn't seem that way though I could be wrong |  |
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| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:40 - Jan 29 with 2533 views | caerleon_jack |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:21 - Jan 29 by Catullus |
Reluctantly agree, don't like being used but if it works out for both parties then so be it! |
I'm not particularly happy with the way that he/his advisors (ie Paul) are going about the current negotiations. I understand that he has to weigh up his options and make the 'right decision' for himself, but it very much does feel like we are being used as a bartering tool to push the price up elsewhere. I don't believe Paul has his son's best interest at heart as far as his career is concerned, or, at least, he has the view that his son should be playing for Liverpool/a.n.other 'big club' right now. What he doesn't seem to realise is that his son has only ever played one level of football, and until he proves himself elsewhere the big boys might not come calling. This is Tom's opportunity to continue his footballing education somewhere, and if possible, get himself a move to a big club. That is not going to happen if he goes to the highest bidder and ignore the style of football they play. Crystal Palace/Stoke/Cardiff are not going to prepare him for type of football Liverpool/Monaco play.
Lets be honest this is not really a 'loan'. This is a short term contract, similar to what we've signed NGog on. He wants out of Blackpool, Blackpool want a transfer fee so that he doesn't 'go for nothing' in the summer. To me it's Paul that this all reflects badly on - he seems obsessed with the idea that his son should be playing at a higher level already and will interfere as much as possible 'in the interest' of his son's career. In the same way some managers were put off Anelka in his younger days because they had to deal with his brothers, Tom has to be careful that clubs aren't put off by the way that Paul gets himself 'involved'. | |
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| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:45 - Jan 29 with 2499 views | airedale |
If he comes to us short term and flops, who's gonna buy him then? |  | | |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:47 - Jan 29 with 2480 views | TheArtChappy |
Our luck would be outstanding on loan we offer him a big contract then flops | |
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| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:50 - Jan 29 with 2448 views | raynor94 |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:45 - Jan 29 by airedale |
If he comes to us short term and flops, who's gonna buy him then? |
Well that won't be our problem |  |
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| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:54 - Jan 29 with 2413 views | Ebo |
As Frankie Burrows used to say "If you have to think twice about joining Swansea City, then we don't want you." |  |
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| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:54 - Jan 29 with 2409 views | pencoedjack |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:32 - Jan 29 by dulaisjack |
time to move on from ince obvious is all self, just likes the attention, better watch he might fall flat on his face and end up an average championship player like sinclair, rather pilkington at least he can hack it in the premiership |
I agree you'd swear he was Messi the way he is whoring himself about. |  | | |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:56 - Jan 29 with 2394 views | WarwickHunt |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:33 - Jan 29 by longlostjack |
The question is does he see himself as a squad player or a star - I suspect Laudrup would be interested in the answer. |
I suspect Laudrup knows the answer...and what Ince thinks is irrelevant to us.
Which may well be part of the reason he hasn't already signed. I doubt if we're that desperate for a short term fix unless he comes on the cheap, which is highly unlikely. |  | | |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:59 - Jan 29 with 2348 views | airedale |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:50 - Jan 29 by raynor94 |
Well that won't be our problem |
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| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 13:05 - Jan 29 with 2312 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:59 - Jan 29 by airedale |
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| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 13:23 - Jan 29 with 2229 views | JACKARSE |
Hull and Stoke have pulled out of the running for Blackpool winger Tom Ince, who is set to leave the Seasiders on loan.
'However reports in the Potteries suggest that Stoke are not interested in a loan deal and want to sign him permanently, while Tigers boss Steve Bruce has distanced himself from the rumours.' |  | | |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 13:25 - Jan 29 with 2207 views | JACKARSE |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 13:23 - Jan 29 by JACKARSE |
Hull and Stoke have pulled out of the running for Blackpool winger Tom Ince, who is set to leave the Seasiders on loan.
'However reports in the Potteries suggest that Stoke are not interested in a loan deal and want to sign him permanently, while Tigers boss Steve Bruce has distanced himself from the rumours.' |
It means Swansea remain favourites, although Sunderland are also expected to hold talks and will attempt to lure him to the Stadium of Light. | | | |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 13:29 - Jan 29 with 2178 views | Dewi1jack |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 12:33 - Jan 29 by longlostjack |
The question is does he see himself as a squad player or a star - I suspect Laudrup would be interested in the answer. |
I reckon we all know the answer to that one.
If he's believing Daddy's hype, then the boy is a star (in his own bathroom mirror)
As I stated in the other thread, I don't remember Tevez, Ronaldo, Bale, Messi, RVP, Rooney, Mata etc etc, having to go on a European tour to sell themselves.
Oh, and they didn't have to speak to such total football teams such as Stoke (who've knocked him back  ) Cardiff and Palace.
How come if he's that good, didn't one of the big teams go in for him last summer, like Utd did with Zaha ?
Or Liverpool, who would have paid just over half of what Cardiff were willing to pay (fee - sell on clause) that is, if they haven't put a fixed price buy back clause in, when they sold him.
Even HJ stated he wasn't worth the money Blackpool wanted/ Cardiff were willing to pay.
If he comes, we'll see if he can make the step up. If he doesn't, nothing we can do about it.
Roll on Thursday when this tedious saga comes to an end. |  |
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| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 13:29 - Jan 29 with 2178 views | airedale |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 13:05 - Jan 29 by Brynmill_Jack |
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Spot on BJ!
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| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 13:48 - Jan 29 with 2053 views | lovejuicejack |
The more I think about this possible deal the more I think it's a bad idea, pal ince anywhere huwbert and the bricks will start flying! |  | | |
| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 13:55 - Jan 29 with 2011 views | Johnw102 |
Wants all the clubs to tell him and daddy Paul to bog off, we do not need that sort of ego coming in and upsetting the dressing room and I can't believe and other club would either. Never thought I would say this, but I am in total agreement with Steve Bruce. |  |
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| Ince wants a loan move to put himself in the shop window on 14:18 - Jan 29 with 1913 views | AnotherJohn |
Did anybody get to the bottom of the BPL loan rules question? Most of our competitors already have two English-registered players on loan, and there was a controversy in another thread about whether this means no further loan is possible for them. Some posters said 'correct', while another suggested that the two player at a time rule only applies to loans from the BPL and not the Championship.
It appears that one needs to consult the Premiership Handbook rules number V5 etcetera. To my eye this seems to indicate clearly that two players means two players in total from both leagues. If my interpretation is right, most of the rival clubs can only get Ince if he is prepared to sign a permanent deal. Am I wrong? | | | |
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