A really bad day at the office, with just about everybody having an off day, but this is not the end of the World, Ralph Hasenhuttl just needs to get things back on track, but he needs to address some of the same old issues from the past few seasons.
Saints put out a full first team, we should have won this game at a canter, but we seemed to have struggled to motivate ourselves and as I have been banging on about, we lack organisation and leadership at the back.
Brentford were up for it and they had done their homework, time and time again they got the ball forward quickly and stretched us at the back.
I am not going to point the finger at individuals, but a good tea is build through strength through it's spine and this starts at the back, but we have not got this, defensively we were dreadful last night, we lacked organisation, we lacked leadership, we lacked basic marking.
The two goals were examples of this, the first a free header from a corner, we had no communication and no one seemed to know who was marking who and leaving it up to someone else.
Likewise the second goal, the ball was pulled back and again a man unmarked to pick his spot.
This has been going on for nearly four years, it is fine relying on youngsters, but they need a leader, we need a cool experienced head at the back, who leads and organises, unless we get that we will just repeat the last few years ad infinitum.
Jack Stephens get a lot of flak from me, but the problem for him he is in a role he is not suited for, he is not a leader or an organiser, Jan Bedanrek is the natural stopper, the man who attacks the ball and marks the man, so that leaves Jack as the man who holds the back line together, but he can't do that, that doesn't make him a bad player, it makes him one being asked to do a role he cannot do, that is not a criticism, if you put Lionel Messi in the back four, he would probably not be able to organise it either.
So last night needs to be a wake up call, but more than that the alarm has been going off since January 2017, we need to sort out the centre of defence and have partners in it who are not only contrasting but also compliment each other's play, we haven't got that.
We have lost the opening two games because teams have sussed us out, they know we can't defend quick breaks, they know we are disorganised at the back and can't mark our men.
Some will say it isn't just a back four problem and they would be right, it wasn't a defender who let their man run for the first goal, but it was hard to see who let him go because there were at least three Saints players standing around watching and not marking anyone.
At Palace it wasn't the defence who gave the ball away, but the defence is there to defend, it is there to bale out the team when it loses the ball, there to make sure we defend situations, but it is not doing that.
Would Jose Fonte have allowed those around him to ball watch and chase shadows ? No he would have been talking, organising and making sure that in any situation everyone is in position and doing their job.
We need an old head, someone who might not even play every week, but is on the training ground and handing out his knowledge and experience.
If we play the same players and do the same things we will continue to get the same results! we have become complacent, the good results in the restart papered over a few cracks, we started to believe the hype, we forgot that Norwich should have been 2-0 up in the first game due to Pukki left unmarked in a similar position as Zaha was on Saturday.
We celebrated the City result and ignored the fact that the only difference between that game and the Leicester one was team spirit, there was just as much poor marking and a lack of organisation, but we got away with it.
I said that in literally every match preview last season and I was right, there were alays errors and there still are, the only question is whether we get away with it or not, in the restart we did, this season we haven't and now the opposition have cottoned on to it and are targeting catching us on the break.
This game is now done and dusted, we need to address the issues that we have and deal with them, I am sick to death of saying the same things and seeing them happen time and time again, but more to the point I'm sick to death of writing about it.