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This Week — Black Wednesday, part one
This Week — Black Wednesday, part one
Wednesday, 25th May 2011 21:03 by Clive Whittingham

Well the serene celebratory atmosphere around QPR lasted just over a fortnight. In the first of three features this evening, LoftforWords examines the new ticket prices Rangers fans will be paying come August..

Well the serene celebratory atmosphere around QPR lasted just over a fortnight. In the first of three features this evening, LoftforWords examines the new ticket prices Rangers fans will be paying come August..

Boutique club, boutique prices

Around the bustling QPR message boards today I’ve read posts from some angry people, some happy people, some very upset people, some relieved people, some people who have resigned themselves to becoming armchair QPR supporters after years of attendance and some disappointed people. I am yet to read anything from anybody who is surprised though. No, after four years of Bernie Ecclestone and Flavio Briatore at the helm of the good ship QPR, the crew know exactly what to expect.

On the train home this evening I actually found myself smiling as I recalled a message board post of my own from back in 2007 when the takeover by Briatore was on the cusp of completion. “At least,” I naively mused, “the club can finally do away with that rip off 50p booking fee now they’ve got some money.” That’s right up there with me backing Middlesbrough and Doncaster for promotion pushes this season. Within a few weeks it had been increased to £3.50. That £3.50 will now be tagged on to season ticket prices of between £549 and £999 and, of far greater concern, some unbelievably high walk up prices.

I’ll take the season ticket prices first, as they are the ones the club has promoted today while rather burying the obscene cost of individual match tickets in the small print. It was Bill Gates, in his brief incarnation as a Simpsons character, who said “I didn’t get rich by writing a lot of cheques” and anybody who thought our club’s owners were going to use the promotion to the Premiership as an opportunity to repay the loyalty of supporters through the lean times by freezing ticket prices, or raising them by a nominal amount, was always kidding themselves.

Remember that even after a massive hike in their first full summer in charge, while we were still a struggling Championship side, the board then tried to raise them again mid-season by introducing ‘category A’ games. Only a complaint by our next opponents Derby and intervention from the Football League prevented them from doing so and I doubt Richard Scudamore and his bum chums in the Premiership give enough of a stuff to intervene this time around.

From a QPR fan’s point of view we have two problems. Firstly we play in a very small ground. We have just 18,000 seats to sell at 19 matches next season – that’s just 342,000 tickets to sell over the next nine months. Manchester United, at the opposite end of the scale, have the best part of 1.5million tickets to sell next season for their league games alone and with runs in the two domestic cups and Europe almost a given you can probably double that. Of those 18,000 seats at Loftus Road at least 2,000 and anything up to 3,100 of them are for away fans, and last season 8,600 of them were taken by season ticket holders. If the whole of the School End remains for away fans and our season ticket sales reach the 9,000 cap that leaves less than 6,000 seats to sell on a match by match basis. Last season the club also released half season tickets, and five match ticket bundles, which meant by the time the tickets for the final game of the season against Leeds went on sale there were only 3,000 left and they were gone in a day. That Leeds match sent a clear message to the board at QPR – if the match is big enough, the support is there to fill the ground and more besides.

I have seen people on message boards today trying to compare us with “like” clubs. This, in my opinion, is futile, because there are no ‘like’ clubs. Nobody in the Premiership next season will have only 15,000 seats to sell to home fans. Nobody in the Premiership next season will have only 6,000 tickets available to buy on a match by match basis. The nearest thing there is to us in the Premiership, in every sense of the word ‘near’, is Fulham who also have a relatively small, ageing stadium with limited revenue making opportunities. However Fulham’s Craven Cottage ground is bigger than Loftus Road, and their support level is traditionally lower than ours. Yes Fulham sell out most weeks in the Premiership, but never does a bus go by on the Fulham Palace Road without an advert for one cheap ticket deal there or another. They have to work hard to fill their ground despite its size, Bernie Ecclestone is clearly of the opinion that QPR do not.

Fulham, and Ecclestone, lead me onto my second problem. A club playing in a ground like Loftus Road, or Craven Cottage, cannot sustain Premiership football naturally. Modern day football stadiums work hard for their living – they turn over millions in hospitality, they house 40,000 people and more, they are in action every day of the week for corporate hospitality, or exams, or as hotels, or anything. Arsenal’s matchday income from the Emirates Stadium is just shy of £100m a season. That’s what we’re competing with here.

Fulham combat this by relying on one man, Mohammed Al Fayed. The recent Guardian feature on the financial health of Premiership clubs show that they are now getting on for £200m worth of debt, almost all of it owed to him. As long as he never calls it in, they’re fine. But then Cardiff said the same with Sam Hamman. QPR’s owners have said right from the start that they would not be the next Abromovic, or Al Fayed. They have railed against the “richest club in the world” tag by repeatedly stating that they are rich, the club is not. They have sustained losses, said to be around £1m a month, but have not thrown silly money at silly players. Our promotion this season was down to shrewd management and good signings on a budget, not because we blew the competition out of the water with a series of £4m signings.

To compete on the field next season QPR will need significant investment from the board and consequently they were never going to commit to this and leave ticket prices as they are. The difference today’s rise will make is relatively small – let’s say the average season ticket at Loftus Road last season was around the £500 mark (mine was £539 in Gold) that means sales of 8,600 brought in £4.3m. Let’s say the average ticket price is now £700 (mine is now £759) and they sell all 9,000 of them – that’s only an extra £2m in income. And £2m doesn’t buy you much in the Premiership. They could easily have just left ticket prices where they were and said “what’s another £2m?” But then Ecclestone and Briatore strike me as the kind of people who’d pick a fiver up out of the gutter if they saw it blowing past.

I’ve seen Blackburn mentioned as a case study today – but their rock bottom prices are a result of having a 30,000 ground in an 80,000 population town surrounded by Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Everton and Leeds. I’ve seen Wolves mentioned too, their prices have changed little since their Championship days (we can expect to pay £28 in their away end next season compared to £48 at Fulham and Man Utd) and they are currently reporting a £9m profit after sensible management on and off the field. But again, Molineux works a lot harder than Loftus Road ever could, and seats more people, and Wolves have a far bigger support base than our own.

Given those circumstances the season ticket prices are, on the whole, not too bad in my opinion. That may be because I’d long since prepared myself to be paying between £700-£800. People can bring up the example of German football, quite rightly, but at the end of the day for Premiership football, in London, that is probably the going rate especially given the special circumstances QPR find themselves in.

Now two things were missing from the season ticket pricing brochure when it was released onto the official website this morning. The first thing was the “walk up” prices. It has become a LoftforWords tradition, on the day the season ticket prices are released, to immediately go on the message board and denounce them as a complete rip off before declaring that you will “pick and choose” your matches from now on. And perhaps looking at the increased price of season tickets this morning that may have been your first though as well. If it was you probably then scrolled down through the brochure looking for how the games would be costed up match by match.

Next season at Loftus Road will see a return of the game categories, whereby the visits of Manchester United and Chelsea will cost significantly more to attend than games with Wigan and Blackburn. This is quite a sensible and reasonable way of doing things, however two years ago Flavio Briatore attempted to use it as a tool to jack prices up in the middle of a campaign by belatedly introducing game categories and then categorising everything as ‘A’ – a move the league quickly put a stop to. Perhaps all the negative publicity that came the club’s way over that is why the only reason I know there will be different game categories next season is because Jim White let it slip when he was auctioning off prizes at the Player of the Year dinner. There has never been official confirmation of it.

There was no confirmation of it in the brochure this morning either, where you would probably expect to find it. Instead the small print and a calculator were required to guide the way. Underneath the new season ticket prices, by way of encouraging you to buy one, it states the saving you make by buying a season ticket instead of paying match by match. By adding the two figures and dividing them by the number of home games you get a match by match figure, which for my seat is £57 a game. Add in the category matches and it seems that the cheapest seat at Loftus Road next season, behind a post in the Q Block for a home game with Wigan, will be £47 for an adult. For Chelsea at home my seat will cost £72 to buy a single ticket for. Platinum seats will cost the best part of £1 a minute for the big games.

This, by any stretch of the imagination, is absolutely ludicrous. A scandalous rip off. A piss take. Extortion.

This will literally price out supporters. Those who Flavio Briatore once so nonchalantly dismissed as the “people who come once a week and pay £20” are now people he would like to come once a week and pay £70 and people just can’t afford that. Those who cannot afford to pay more than £600 for a season ticket, who have previously relied upon individual match tickets will now watch QPR on the television or not at all. Our club, and football in general, seems to forget that there is more to life than the fucking Barclays Premier League. There are mouths to feed and families to support. When people are looking down credit card statements at the end of the month £25 for a day at the football can be justified, £72 just for the ticket often cannot. But, they wouldn’t be doing it if they didn’t think people will pay it.

In the short term QPR will get away with this. We haven’t been in the Premiership for 15 years and the hunger is there, the appetite and excitement is there. I expect the season tickets to sell out. But let’s say we’re bottom at Christmas and doing a bit of a Derby County – will people pay upwards of £47 to watch a poor QPR side lose at home to Wigan? What if we get relegated, will the prices revert back to their Championship level? I very much doubt it don’t you? If we were to be relegated I’d expect the new Championship season to kick off in front of barely 10,000 people. And let’s say we do survive and consolidate at the highest level – how long before people get bored? Every season just aiming for 42 points, quickly exiting both cups in case a run undermines our league form, treating 17th in the table as a success – how long before the novelty wears off and people find something else to spend they £72 on, even when Man Utd are in town? None of this appears to have been thought through.

Neither does much consideration seem to have been given to the ‘dad’s and lads’. Junior and OAP prices have increased by 100% and more in some areas. Every second person I know at QPR was introduced to the club, the ground and the matchday experience by going along with their old man. These days what is there to encourage a dad to take his lad to football? Where is this next generation of QPR supporters coming from?

Football clubs rely on the loyalty (stupidity) of their supporters. No other industry would have been able to get away with hiking up its prices time and time and time again through a recession while providing the same product and maintain its customer base. At QPR supporters like me and thousands of others have stayed loyal through some rancid times. We’ve done the Tuesday nights in Barnsley and the midweek home defeats to Ipswich. Our reward for this? Zero. There is no discount for renewing a season ticket as opposed to just suddenly deciding having never followed QPR before that you quite fancy some Premiership football this season and buying one. There is no discount for renewing early, as there has been in previous years. There is just a five week period of grace to find the money, whereas in previous years we have had three months or more. There is no recognition for people who stumped up their hard earned cash last season and backed the team when few people expected anything of it. My loyalty points topped 180 last season – my reward for this? I’m still waiting for it.

In fact, it’s worse than zero. Further small print lower down the form reveals that not only is your loyalty not being rewarded, but you’re being asked to pay £35 to prove it again. Having accepted that the season ticket price rises are, almost, reasonable I scanned down my form looking for the away season ticket option and find myself confronted with the “Super Hoop membership”. This, at a cost of an additional £35, gives you first option on guest tickets for home games, first option on the purchase of an away ticket, 30 loyalty points, and the opportunity to apply for (but not necessarily succeed in getting) an away season ticket.

Given the language the promotional material is written in you’d think this was a good deal but let’s stop and think for a moment. Is this not the stuff that we got as part of being a season ticket holder last season? I mean £539 (now £759) is a lot of money to be shelling out just for a seat at 23 (now 19) football games, there should be some other stuff thrown in there as well and this used to be it. It was controversial around the time of the Leeds game but season ticket holders have always known they get first preference on guest tickets, first dibs on away tickets and so on. Now, in addition to a vastly inflated season ticket price, we have to pay another £35 to get the stuff we got for free before.

The second thing that was missing from the form, in addition to the walk up prices was the usual gushing statement from either chairman Ishan Saksena, or Amit Bhatia. Black Wednesday – part two, will be on LoftforWords later this evening.

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OutWestR added 21:45 - May 25
(Another) sad day as a QPR supporter. Not a chance I can afford those sort of 'walk up' prices. For the first time since 1986 I probably won't get to see a single home game.

Deep down I knew it was all going so well not having a points deduction off the FA ... a small part of me wishes we hadn't got promoted now.

What saddens me is that a lot of loyal fans will be priced out, to be replaced by glory hunters with deeper pockets.

Not surprised ... but still gutted.
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GloryHunter added 21:47 - May 25
Thanks Norf, for spelling it out so well, so quickly. I'm still in shock, and don't know what to think. In fact I've just taken down the flag that was drawing-pinned to the front door since the Leeds game. Until 5 O'Clock this evening I was proud of it, but suddenly it became kind of embarrassing to see it still up there.
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SomersetHoops added 21:50 - May 25
Clive, I prefer your usually superb long version - Its just sad that once again events dictate that its necessary to report negative stuff. I get the impression that Bernie and Flabio enjoy inflicting pain on supporters of QPR. It will never be their club whatever they do as they don't really get football or understand the loyalty of supporters to 'their' club. I get the feeling they are carrying out an experiment to see if they can get rid of all real QPR supporters and substitute with people who just want to turn up to see what a joke they are making of our club.
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naughtycop added 21:51 - May 25
well said norf, have spent the last couple of hours kicking office furniture... you have said all there is to say.... until the next posts!
Appreciated as always fella...... even warm beer dont make me feel this f*ckin sick!
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18StoneOfHoop added 22:01 - May 25
Utterly superb as per usual.Thanks for doing the depressing sums.And many insights,analysis offered and issues addressed that I'd never have come close to thinking of on my todd.
Was very angry 2 hours ago.Then tearful reading Amit's earnest from-the-heart resignation statement.Now I'm just tired and sad.Earlier today as I cycled about in the Bush sunshine in my QPR shirt random peeps were shouting 'Champions!' at me and I was smiling from ear to ear.
Bernie Ecclestone currently dabbling with his real love in Monte Carlo tonight - vroom!vroom! round & round,how exciting! - has turned all my joy to ash.
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davman added 22:12 - May 25
Been fading away for the last few seasons - 16 games in 2008-9; 7 games 2009-10 and just 4 last season, but, apart from maybe the Carling Cup and early round (well, OK, just the 3rd round) of the FA Cup (draw permitting), that's me done for next season.
No hystrionics or sob story here, just can't afford it. I have a 4 year old and was looking forward to taking him along next season; that a'int gonna happen now. Sad to say as I still love the Rangers, but until we get dragged through a Briatore / Ecclestone led Administration, which is surely only a couple of years away, I can't see myself at HQ for a while...
Anyway, what happens when Bernie pegs out, which can't be too far away?

Just such a shame, really - very sad.
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French_Hoops added 22:46 - May 25
Bravo Clive! Your best article I've ever read!
I'm gutted and my Hoops heart has been bleeding all day as I can't afford to renew my ST for next year...
I love football, I love my club but it does feel as if both have been cheating on me big time today!
Very sad day indeed.
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Pablo_Hoopsta added 22:53 - May 25
I was not expecting the double whamy of Bhatia and Saksena but the ticket pricing was always going to happen (unfortunately)
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Exiled_hoops added 23:02 - May 25
RE "However Fulham’s Craven Cottage ground is bigger than Loftus Road, and their support level is traditionally lower than ours". I'm not sure you can say that Fulham's support is traditionally lower - I've been having this debate with a Fulham supporter who confirmed my initial thoughts that through history they have had a larger average gate. They've had more than 40 40k+crowds, albeit years ago.
When they were languishing on the lower divisions (and Rangers had an excellent side) they lost 1, possibly 2 generations of supporters and it's taken them a long time to get them back. They've now had 10 years in the Premier League and a lot of their younger supporters know no different.
That is where QPR need to be careful - cannot afford to allienate supporters and the younger ones who are the supporters of tomorrow.
I have a nasty feeling that the loss of Bhatia and Saksena will have a massive ripple effect and not a good one.
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jo_qpr63 added 23:25 - May 25
Surely one of the best reasons for getting in the prem was to build up the profile and support of the club and start getting a new generation of fans. These prices will turn them away. I personally wont be going to many games next season now, because of the cost , and will now take my lad on special occasions. I'll be honest, theres only a handful of teams i would love to see.. man u, liverpool, arsenal,chelsea, spurs ,man city. But i cant bring myself to pay £150+ to watch wba, wigan,wolves, bolton,stoke etc. I think what is more concerning is there doesnt seem to be a long term plan for QPR . The extra cost although a massive issue for the fans wont make to much difference in terms of generating more money to pay for better world class players, and why would we want pay for the privalige of watching the likes of rooney and gerrard score goals against us.
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brendan added 08:56 - May 26
Professional Football unfortunately attracts sharks and spivs who are not fans and who not only take the loyalty of the genuine supporter totally for granted but will shaft him/her at every turn.
Wimbledon, st prices, players contracts etc.......
You can watch on telly.....which brings me on to SKY..same rip off of the man in the street
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benbu added 09:02 - May 26
you must be tired after writing those 3 articles. All very good reads!

I was expecting my season ticket to be £650 for lower loft as a minimum and thats exactly what it is, £34 per game it works out to be. I think although the season tickets are expensive you have hit the nail on the head above by mentioning the size of the ground, playing in London and who our board are. They will want to make as much as they can for the matchday ticket sales but £47 for Norwich, Wigan, Wolves is simply a piss take. They are pricing out the casual fans who pick and choose their matches. Im interested to see how they categorize the matches too. Not encouraging for young families to come along and these prices will halt the next generation of young rs fans from going to loftus road. I think a ground share with Fulham (after first season) may be something the club need to think about, sell loftus road and move out to North West London (uxbridge, Ruislip)

The super hoop ticket seems completely pointless too, why pay £35 other than 30 loyalty points what really do you get for it? The 30 points may come in handy but your not guaranteed to by another ticket when on sale, so its paying the club for absolutely nothing.
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headhoops added 09:06 - May 26
Thanks Clive,
an insightful piece from a 23 year old, maturity beyond your years! We all knew the prices would skyrocket, however, its the cold contempt that Flabbyone and more importantly, the poison dwarf have for QPR fans that saddens the most. Lets not forget Eccelstone is a chelski fan.

I'm more than twice your age and have a junior under 16 and a young adult. For us thats £1,500 for 19 games - every home game is now a £100+ investment - not certain I can or want to pay that even to watch the Manures etc.

How can the club justify a kid of 16 having to pay £500 for a ticket? The owners lack of foresight is staggering, they are not interested in building up a new generation of QPR fans, the are rich, greedy piggies with their noses in the trough and having made the top table they are going to gorge themselves. Let's hope they get sick and fcuk off.

Unfortunately I can't see that happening as no doubt enough new 'ive supported them all my life' prawn sandwich eaters will come out of the woodwork - where were they on a crap tuesday night in rotherham when the old bill confiscated the laces out of you DM's???
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QPRBrian added 09:46 - May 26
I missed that bit about the Super Hoops membership being required to have priority for away tickets, i'll re-visit the web site and if you can get that seperate from the season ticket I might just go for that instead. Warnock and the players have spent the last 15 months restoring the pride and identity into the club and now these prats have totally killed it off again. I know one thing, if Warnock is sacked i'm definitely not getting a season ticket.
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Juzzie added 12:47 - May 26
I agree with SomersetHoops, I'm beginning to think FB & Co are doing this on purpose. They've never been taken to by the fans from day one. Primarily their own fault with coming out with insulting remarks such as "the £20 fan". Mr Briatore comes from a retail background with Benenton... I thought the customer was always right? Apparently not.
Add in that the Mittals & co, rightly, got all the adulation at the end of the season and Briatore & co were clearly snubbed makes me think they're getting their own back.
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PleasureDomeRs added 11:16 - May 27
For what it’s worth here’s my view on the ticket prices;
I have been a Season Ticket holder for several years and I actually don't think the season ticket price increase is that bad when you consider the following;
* We support a club with a £10million loan
*We only have an 18,000 stadium
*We have been out of the Premier League for over 10 years
QPR aren't a rich club the owners are and as a result the club need to maximise their income to allow the club to be in a position to stay in the Premier League and help manage some of the constraints we have on us.
Whilst I accept an increase in season ticket prices I do struggle to get my head round the excessively high match day ticket price. As I see it the club would sell all their allocation of season tickets regardless of a massive cost saving on the match day ticket price as the demand to secure a seat is so high, so why not have a slightly increased match day ticket price to members and then a much higher match day price to non members allowing the club to make money off increased membership and penalise non members with a higher price?
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themodfather added 05:19 - May 28
a very good and well balanced read/report.
i def like to compare prices..man city will be £450, wigan £350
qpr are now in the higher bracket with man utd,arsenal and chelsea
capacity is one thing
THE BOARD REDUCED IT WITH C-CLUB, but that brings in huge revenue.
we can't run at £m a month losses, as per last accounts..sadly many feared we'd cop it and we have.
£40 a prem game does not seem too bad....but i hope many are not priced out and don't return ( pride etc is a funny thing)
many will swallow it and renew....the F blockheads face eviction at this rent increase.....
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