| Another Xmas market disaster 21:03 - Dec 20 with 1645 views | KeithHaynes |
And people are complaining there are armed police at one in Manchester.
Kids killed.
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 21:07 - Dec 20 with 1110 views | AnotherJohn |
German police say suspect is Saudi citizen, who has worked as a doctor in Germany since 2006. He is believed to be a lone wolf. Of course, early reports may be subject to change. |  | | |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 21:08 - Dec 20 with 1100 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
What can man do against such reckless hate? |  |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 21:14 - Dec 20 with 1075 views | Boundy |
and we tolerate and make allowances for them , let them come here and be amongst us . If that offends so be it | |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 21:20 - Dec 20 with 1045 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 21:07 - Dec 20 by AnotherJohn |
German police say suspect is Saudi citizen, who has worked as a doctor in Germany since 2006. He is believed to be a lone wolf. Of course, early reports may be subject to change. |
He almost certainly won’t be a “lone wolf”. He’s been groomed and radicalised by certain groups who put the mental in fundamentalists. | |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 21:26 - Dec 20 with 1020 views | AnotherJohn |
There are unconfirmed reports that a malfunctioning explosive device was found in the car, which if true may raise questions about whether others were involved. | | | |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 21:28 - Dec 20 with 1012 views | KeithHaynes |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 21:26 - Dec 20 by AnotherJohn |
There are unconfirmed reports that a malfunctioning explosive device was found in the car, which if true may raise questions about whether others were involved. |
Most certainly have to be, I mean 16 years inside for cutting a guys head off.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgmk9ege84o | |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 22:34 - Dec 20 with 946 views | majorraglan |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 21:14 - Dec 20 by Boundy |
and we tolerate and make allowances for them , let them come here and be amongst us . If that offends so be it |
There’s good and bad in all walks life. This guy in Germany is clearly a wrong un, but there are plenty of more muslims who are good, upright decent citizens. One of my neighbour is a paediatrician who devotes his time to making sick kids better while another is a surgeon who spends his time saving local people’s lives. [Post edited 20 Dec 22:44]
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 22:43 - Dec 20 with 934 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 21:14 - Dec 20 by Boundy |
and we tolerate and make allowances for them , let them come here and be amongst us . If that offends so be it |
We tolerate the intolerance of others, it's a strategy that will fail. |  |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 22:55 - Dec 20 with 904 views | raynor94 |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 22:34 - Dec 20 by majorraglan |
There’s good and bad in all walks life. This guy in Germany is clearly a wrong un, but there are plenty of more muslims who are good, upright decent citizens. One of my neighbour is a paediatrician who devotes his time to making sick kids better while another is a surgeon who spends his time saving local people’s lives. [Post edited 20 Dec 22:44]
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Sorry we reap what we sow, and there are many many more Muslims who are not upright decent citizens, these offences are becoming more common all over Europe.
I dread to think what the future holds |  |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 23:11 - Dec 20 with 891 views | Boundy |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 22:34 - Dec 20 by majorraglan |
There’s good and bad in all walks life. This guy in Germany is clearly a wrong un, but there are plenty of more muslims who are good, upright decent citizens. One of my neighbour is a paediatrician who devotes his time to making sick kids better while another is a surgeon who spends his time saving local people’s lives. [Post edited 20 Dec 22:44]
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I'm well aware of that fact and thanks for reminding me , in fact we all could do with reminding , I myself was recently treated by an Asian doctor and was extremely grateful for that , I never asked nor did he provide what faith he followed if indeed he did but one point if you will , I never mentioned the religion of the attacker so did you presume I did.
Recently you seem to be sniping at me at every opportunity you can get , I'm not sure why but its becoming quite unnerving . tbh. | |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 23:31 - Dec 20 with 837 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 21:07 - Dec 20 by AnotherJohn |
German police say suspect is Saudi citizen, who has worked as a doctor in Germany since 2006. He is believed to be a lone wolf. Of course, early reports may be subject to change. |
Still FIFA will go ahead with the World Cup in Saudi despite its appalling human rights record and lack of antly rights for women. | |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 00:00 - Dec 21 with 827 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
I'm fuming, Frank Gardener at the BBC said the market was woefully under protected suggesting that every public event should have high security.
Next time you go to a match, cinema, shopping centre looks out for the armed guards and high security! | |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 05:46 - Dec 21 with 733 views | Gwyn737 |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 23:31 - Dec 20 by felixstowe_jack |
Still FIFA will go ahead with the World Cup in Saudi despite its appalling human rights record and lack of antly rights for women. |
I’m surprised how little coverage Saudi getting the World Cup has got.
Qatar must have paved the way.
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 06:35 - Dec 21 with 713 views | 1983 |
Unfortunately this is just a way of life now like football scores and the lottery, the Genie is well and truly out of the bottle and like someone else said you reap what you sow. I truly believe we are just around the corner from another horrific terrorist attack.
Hopefully I have another 25yrs left in me then I will be tapping out but I do fear for my kids, grandkids.... |  |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 08:40 - Dec 21 with 680 views | AnotherJohn |
From official statements it is looking as though this is a highly unusual case where a 50 year old Saudi national, who worked as a prison psychiatrist, held strong anti-Islamist views, and appeared to have made bizarre X posts that might indicate a mental disturbance, I guess we need more information before we have much idea about motivation. All I would say is that in addition to the obvious risks of jihadi violence, mass immigration into Europe sets in play complex interactions and dynamics that can cause collateral damage. | | | |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 09:35 - Dec 21 with 628 views | onehunglow |
It is something clearly part of a culture | |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 09:37 - Dec 21 with 622 views | onehunglow |
General public accept police getting a kicking more than Vice Versa | |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 09:42 - Dec 21 with 623 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 08:40 - Dec 21 by AnotherJohn |
From official statements it is looking as though this is a highly unusual case where a 50 year old Saudi national, who worked as a prison psychiatrist, held strong anti-Islamist views, and appeared to have made bizarre X posts that might indicate a mental disturbance, I guess we need more information before we have much idea about motivation. All I would say is that in addition to the obvious risks of jihadi violence, mass immigration into Europe sets in play complex interactions and dynamics that can cause collateral damage. |
Presumably the sort of mental disturbance that makes people believe there’s a fictional all seeing all knowing superman living in the sky who wants you to commit the most heinous atrocities that he easily has the power to do himself in order to reward you with lots of virgins in paradise.
Because people who believe in fictional supermen clearly don’t have their faculties working in a logical manner. | |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 09:45 - Dec 21 with 606 views | onehunglow |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 09:42 - Dec 21 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Presumably the sort of mental disturbance that makes people believe there’s a fictional all seeing all knowing superman living in the sky who wants you to commit the most heinous atrocities that he easily has the power to do himself in order to reward you with lots of virgins in paradise.
Because people who believe in fictional supermen clearly don’t have their faculties working in a logical manner. |
This post is just incredible
Who the hell are you man.
A mixture between Oscar Wilde and Bertrand Russell and Wordsworth | |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 10:03 - Dec 21 with 589 views | AnotherJohn |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 09:42 - Dec 21 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Presumably the sort of mental disturbance that makes people believe there’s a fictional all seeing all knowing superman living in the sky who wants you to commit the most heinous atrocities that he easily has the power to do himself in order to reward you with lots of virgins in paradise.
Because people who believe in fictional supermen clearly don’t have their faculties working in a logical manner. |
You can probably gather that I am not a fan of radical Islam, but it seems from the content of his X posts that the arrested man - "Taleb A" - was an activist who had been involved in getting Saudi atheists and other dissidents who oppose Islam into Europe. So if we can believe the reports he is not the usual jihadist zealot.
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Among the X posts was one accusing the German people of being responsible for the killing of Socrates and some that said the police were opening his mail. I won't count a post blaming Merkel for the "silent Islamisation of Europe" as necessarily indicating mental disturbance. [Post edited 21 Dec 10:11]
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 10:27 - Dec 21 with 568 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 10:03 - Dec 21 by AnotherJohn |
You can probably gather that I am not a fan of radical Islam, but it seems from the content of his X posts that the arrested man - "Taleb A" - was an activist who had been involved in getting Saudi atheists and other dissidents who oppose Islam into Europe. So if we can believe the reports he is not the usual jihadist zealot.
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Among the X posts was one accusing the German people of being responsible for the killing of Socrates and some that said the police were opening his mail. I won't count a post blaming Merkel for the "silent Islamisation of Europe" as necessarily indicating mental disturbance. [Post edited 21 Dec 10:11]
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What is a “usual jihadist zealot” in reality though? The hijackers on 9/11 were made up of lawyers, schoolteachers and engineers. This guy is a doctor. Anyone can be radicalised and very quickly. His posts on Twitter from years ago might not be indicative of his frame of mind in recent months.
The fact is if he just wanted to cause carnage and kill people he could have selected any crowd, a football match, a beer festival. But he has seemingly targeted the fairytale section of a Christmas market where there were likely to be lots of children and families. Just like the Ariana grande bombing, just like the Southport stabbings, children appear to have been the target. | |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 10:32 - Dec 21 with 556 views | onehunglow |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 10:03 - Dec 21 by AnotherJohn |
You can probably gather that I am not a fan of radical Islam, but it seems from the content of his X posts that the arrested man - "Taleb A" - was an activist who had been involved in getting Saudi atheists and other dissidents who oppose Islam into Europe. So if we can believe the reports he is not the usual jihadist zealot.
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Among the X posts was one accusing the German people of being responsible for the killing of Socrates and some that said the police were opening his mail. I won't count a post blaming Merkel for the "silent Islamisation of Europe" as necessarily indicating mental disturbance. [Post edited 21 Dec 10:11]
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Those who are support terrorism and people being blown to pieces in the name of God | |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 11:13 - Dec 21 with 503 views | AnotherJohn |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 10:27 - Dec 21 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
What is a “usual jihadist zealot” in reality though? The hijackers on 9/11 were made up of lawyers, schoolteachers and engineers. This guy is a doctor. Anyone can be radicalised and very quickly. His posts on Twitter from years ago might not be indicative of his frame of mind in recent months.
The fact is if he just wanted to cause carnage and kill people he could have selected any crowd, a football match, a beer festival. But he has seemingly targeted the fairytale section of a Christmas market where there were likely to be lots of children and families. Just like the Ariana grande bombing, just like the Southport stabbings, children appear to have been the target. |
Well, we will see when more information comes out, but the posts were quite recent, and reports say the man also ran a website with anti-Islamic content, I accept that the authorities might prefer a story of that kind, and it seems that some pro-immigration groups in Germany are saying this was a supporter of AfD who turned on Germany because it did not support extreme policies. It wasn't so much the occupation and age that I had in mind when I said the attacker was atypical, but the social media posts and reaction to them,
https://eturbonews.com/why-this-saudi-terrorist-killed-germans-attending-the-mag | | | |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 11:18 - Dec 21 with 491 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 11:13 - Dec 21 by AnotherJohn |
Well, we will see when more information comes out, but the posts were quite recent, and reports say the man also ran a website with anti-Islamic content, I accept that the authorities might prefer a story of that kind, and it seems that some pro-immigration groups in Germany are saying this was a supporter of AfD who turned on Germany because it did not support extreme policies. It wasn't so much the occupation and age that I had in mind when I said the attacker was atypical, but the social media posts and reaction to them,
https://eturbonews.com/why-this-saudi-terrorist-killed-germans-attending-the-mag |
Well he’s clearly a scumbag whoever he is. Wanted for terrorism and human trafficking? Come to Europe you’ll fit in well here. | |
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| Another Xmas market disaster on 11:27 - Dec 21 with 483 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Another Xmas market disaster on 11:13 - Dec 21 by AnotherJohn |
Well, we will see when more information comes out, but the posts were quite recent, and reports say the man also ran a website with anti-Islamic content, I accept that the authorities might prefer a story of that kind, and it seems that some pro-immigration groups in Germany are saying this was a supporter of AfD who turned on Germany because it did not support extreme policies. It wasn't so much the occupation and age that I had in mind when I said the attacker was atypical, but the social media posts and reaction to them,
https://eturbonews.com/why-this-saudi-terrorist-killed-germans-attending-the-mag |
Anyone claiming to understand exactly what the motive was here is obviously playing politics with a tragedy. | |
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