| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 08:48 - Nov 25 with 1524 views | 3swan |
Spot on.
Yes Leeds are a better team than us, but it is our errors that was the difference.
We do need a result at Derby as a hit to our confidence will only result in more errors. |  | |  |
| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 08:51 - Nov 25 with 1512 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 08:48 - Nov 25 by 3swan |
Spot on.
Yes Leeds are a better team than us, but it is our errors that was the difference.
We do need a result at Derby as a hit to our confidence will only result in more errors. |
It was a tough watch with so many errors mate, we’ve lived with the best in this league, but Wednesday is a bread and butter game. |  |
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| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 08:52 - Nov 25 with 1511 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 08:48 - Nov 25 by 3swan |
Spot on.
Yes Leeds are a better team than us, but it is our errors that was the difference.
We do need a result at Derby as a hit to our confidence will only result in more errors. |
Dead right
It hurt | |
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| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 09:16 - Nov 25 with 1434 views | RichardO |
| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 08:48 - Nov 25 by 3swan |
Spot on.
Yes Leeds are a better team than us, but it is our errors that was the difference.
We do need a result at Derby as a hit to our confidence will only result in more errors. |
They may have been the better team but we opened them up because we exploited the weakness in their game plan just as they exploited ours, we didn't manage the game properly when we went in front or at the end when we equalised we left ourselves exposed to the counter attack with schoolboy errors. | | | |
| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 09:21 - Nov 25 with 1399 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 09:16 - Nov 25 by RichardO |
They may have been the better team but we opened them up because we exploited the weakness in their game plan just as they exploited ours, we didn't manage the game properly when we went in front or at the end when we equalised we left ourselves exposed to the counter attack with schoolboy errors. |
Well said.
Taking the emotion out of it, we basically chucked the game away
It is so frustrating
It was also bad team selection by bringing on Abdulai and taking Franco off.
It was a game we should have won | |
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| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 09:34 - Nov 25 with 1376 views | RichardO |
| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 09:21 - Nov 25 by onehunglow |
Well said.
Taking the emotion out of it, we basically chucked the game away
It is so frustrating
It was also bad team selection by bringing on Abdulai and taking Franco off.
It was a game we should have won |
Sometimes you need to stick with the players doing the job in tight games regardless of when the next game is, if the team selection for the start of the next game has to change so be it but don't change things when things are so tight securing points could be lost by changes. | | | |
| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 09:57 - Nov 25 with 1307 views | raynor94 |
| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 09:21 - Nov 25 by onehunglow |
Well said.
Taking the emotion out of it, we basically chucked the game away
It is so frustrating
It was also bad team selection by bringing on Abdulai and taking Franco off.
It was a game we should have won |
In fairness Bianchini replaced Franco, Abdulai came on 10 minutes later.
But Abdulai should have done far better with that backpost header |  |
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| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 10:07 - Nov 25 with 1286 views | RichardO |
| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 09:57 - Nov 25 by raynor94 |
In fairness Bianchini replaced Franco, Abdulai came on 10 minutes later.
But Abdulai should have done far better with that backpost header |
Bianchini is chipping in with goals maybe needs to up his percentage of tap in goals but is scoring so don't think it was a bad descion to bring him on just a case of who and when to take players off. | | | |
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| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 10:21 - Nov 25 with 1252 views | johnlangy |
| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 09:34 - Nov 25 by RichardO |
Sometimes you need to stick with the players doing the job in tight games regardless of when the next game is, if the team selection for the start of the next game has to change so be it but don't change things when things are so tight securing points could be lost by changes. |
Franco had been flattened twice. It's impossible for us to know how much that affected him and with the next game just three days away maybe it made sense to sub him.
We would definitely want him to start against Derby. My big question about yesterday is what on earth is the point of Ronald ? He seems to have lost everything that was good from last season. And Peart-Harris was only marginally better. | | | |
| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 10:38 - Nov 25 with 1219 views | RichardO |
| Swansea City : Then errors continue in a right old thriller on 10:21 - Nov 25 by johnlangy |
Franco had been flattened twice. It's impossible for us to know how much that affected him and with the next game just three days away maybe it made sense to sub him.
We would definitely want him to start against Derby. My big question about yesterday is what on earth is the point of Ronald ? He seems to have lost everything that was good from last season. And Peart-Harris was only marginally better. |
Think Ronald is causing problems for teams Leeds as many teams have done are doubling up on him sometimes you need to snuff out problems out early in games as we didn't with James, Tymon needed to ensure his threat was limited by being more cautious going forward onlyvwhen cover was in place from the midfield and centrebacks a balance that needs to be looked at, Key had similar problems on the other side which was stifled for most of the game until Key push forward more into the central midfield where he seems very effective in an attacking sense, fine line balancing the need for attack or defence. | | | |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 10:48 - Nov 25 with 1185 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea gave the ball cheaply in midfield and this cost goals . Grimes and Peart Harris the chief culprits. When that happens a cynical team will take a booking and prevent Dan James ripping your defence apart. |  |
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| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 10:52 - Nov 25 with 1184 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 10:48 - Nov 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea gave the ball cheaply in midfield and this cost goals . Grimes and Peart Harris the chief culprits. When that happens a cynical team will take a booking and prevent Dan James ripping your defence apart. |
True. First equaliser a template of how Grimes isn’t all that he’s made out to be .
We still overplay | |
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| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 11:15 - Nov 25 with 1146 views | RichardO |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 10:52 - Nov 25 by onehunglow |
True. First equaliser a template of how Grimes isn’t all that he’s made out to be .
We still overplay |
Will give Grimes a bit of credit at the moment as his play in general seems a lot sharper and quicker, he has pushed further forward and made some good covering interception but when he does push forward then the other midfielders have to do the covering work.
As for the errors that tends to happen when options become limited or the player on the ball is far too confident lulled into a false sense of security although being given hospital passes doesn't help. | | | |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 11:40 - Nov 25 with 1092 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 11:15 - Nov 25 by RichardO |
Will give Grimes a bit of credit at the moment as his play in general seems a lot sharper and quicker, he has pushed further forward and made some good covering interception but when he does push forward then the other midfielders have to do the covering work.
As for the errors that tends to happen when options become limited or the player on the ball is far too confident lulled into a false sense of security although being given hospital passes doesn't help. |
Rich.
First goal was down to him ditgeringbon the ball.
He also,to me,takes risky options in a defensive position
He frustrates me as he can play and is a model pro . | |
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| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 12:25 - Nov 25 with 1044 views | RichardO |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 11:40 - Nov 25 by onehunglow |
Rich.
First goal was down to him ditgeringbon the ball.
He also,to me,takes risky options in a defensive position
He frustrates me as he can play and is a model pro . |
We have seen the likes of Ntcham, Celina and Paterson good Adanced midfielders trying to force things from deep come unstuck, all for a player putting a foot on the ball but often the best ball is the first one you see.
Similarly amazed that Vigouroux doesn't use Key after he tracks back the winger and then peels off into space as the ball goes through to Vigouroux leaving Key free with plenty of room and time to play either a quick ball down the line or carry the ball forward | | | |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 12:30 - Nov 25 with 1038 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 12:25 - Nov 25 by RichardO |
We have seen the likes of Ntcham, Celina and Paterson good Adanced midfielders trying to force things from deep come unstuck, all for a player putting a foot on the ball but often the best ball is the first one you see.
Similarly amazed that Vigouroux doesn't use Key after he tracks back the winger and then peels off into space as the ball goes through to Vigouroux leaving Key free with plenty of room and time to play either a quick ball down the line or carry the ball forward |
It’s why I wouldn’t be averse to a change of coach
I maintain ,we are nowhere near being well “ coached” . Our subs are dumb IMO.
I feel for Franco as he is subbed every time and then w see Abdulai come on who is really not very good .
Nobody is going to persuade me that we couldn’t attract a quality coach .
We are a good club | |
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| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 19:44 - Nov 25 with 890 views | blackpooljack |
A stat i'd like to see is average time it takes the ball from our box to reach there box and vice versa for all our games this season, I'm sure it would be stark differences |  | | |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 20:01 - Nov 25 with 871 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 19:44 - Nov 25 by blackpooljack |
A stat i'd like to see is average time it takes the ball from our box to reach there box and vice versa for all our games this season, I'm sure it would be stark differences |
We could move the ball quicker from ours to theirs ,no question.
Leeds are very competent in that regard which won them the game .
It’s about coaching.
Again. | |
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| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 20:03 - Nov 25 with 858 views | 3swan |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 20:01 - Nov 25 by onehunglow |
We could move the ball quicker from ours to theirs ,no question.
Leeds are very competent in that regard which won them the game .
It’s about coaching.
Again. |
It’s also about having players with true pace | | | |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 20:06 - Nov 25 with 843 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 20:01 - Nov 25 by onehunglow |
We could move the ball quicker from ours to theirs ,no question.
Leeds are very competent in that regard which won them the game .
It’s about coaching.
Again. |
We moved the ball quickly enough, we scored three goals enough to win most matches. We were just beaten by pace in the final third, not by moving the ball quickly from back to front. |  | | |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 20:31 - Nov 25 with 796 views | max936 |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 20:06 - Nov 25 by Whiterockin |
We moved the ball quickly enough, we scored three goals enough to win most matches. We were just beaten by pace in the final third, not by moving the ball quickly from back to front. |
I could believe on the room we afforded James, its like we didn't know him, unbelievable, Watched first half of Saints v Liverpool and saints completely shut Salah down in that first half, I don't recall him even having a kick.
James's pace is surely something Williams and his staff would have been aware of. [Post edited 25 Nov 21:39]
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| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 20:32 - Nov 25 with 793 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 20:06 - Nov 25 by Whiterockin |
We moved the ball quickly enough, we scored three goals enough to win most matches. We were just beaten by pace in the final third, not by moving the ball quickly from back to front. |
Too many people seem to be under the impression we are still managed by Russelll Martin and just won’t accept that.
You’d think we were still knocking it around the back four with no intent to get it forward reading some of these threads. | | | |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 21:09 - Nov 25 with 756 views | union_jack |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 20:31 - Nov 25 by max936 |
I could believe on the room we afforded James, its like we didn't know him, unbelievable, Watched first half of Saints v Liverpool and saints completely shut Salah down in that first half, I don't recall him even having a kick.
James's pace is surely something Williams and his staff would have been aware of. [Post edited 25 Nov 21:39]
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I said the same in the MDT. |  |
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| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 23:33 - Nov 25 with 692 views | RichardO |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 20:32 - Nov 25 by jack247 |
Too many people seem to be under the impression we are still managed by Russelll Martin and just won’t accept that.
You’d think we were still knocking it around the back four with no intent to get it forward reading some of these threads. |
How many of us see four attackers racing into the box with only two defenders trying to stop the tide, credit has to be given to Darling, Cabango and Vigouroux for many games this season but the tracking back by the others when a high line is employed is not good enough especially if we are going to give the ball away so cheaply in the centre of the park the most congested part of the pitch with our full backs needing to be high up the pitch for us to show any attacking quality or intent. Picked off again when the opposition needs to.
Yes progress seems to be made but Williams still has yet to work out how to get the best from his players for 90 or more minutes over a consistent number games.
All about getting the balance right, has William's got the players available to do that given the injuries we have to our attacking players. [Post edited 26 Nov 6:56]
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| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 09:23 - Nov 26 with 556 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City : Those errors continue in a right old thriller on 20:32 - Nov 25 by jack247 |
Too many people seem to be under the impression we are still managed by Russelll Martin and just won’t accept that.
You’d think we were still knocking it around the back four with no intent to get it forward reading some of these threads. |
Some fans are clueless aren’t they ? | |
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