| If Ukraine falls 09:28 - Nov 24 with 434 views | mangohilljack |
Are you ready for the consequences?
The West appears resolute in keeping Russia out, and the reasons are both apparent and troubling for those willing to look closer. Beneath the surface, there are deeply unsettling activities tied to the country's power players. Figures like the Biden crime family, the Clintons, the Bushes, and others seem to have vested interests—entangling their influence in ways that are far from innocent.
They will go to great lengths to conceal their secrets, employing any means necessary—even escalating to nuclear-level threats.
If Trump withdraws support—assuming events progress that far—you should brace yourself. The world as we know it will be irrevocably changed.
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| If Ukraine falls on 09:52 - Nov 24 with 386 views | controversial_jack |
There's no if about it, just a when. | | | |
| If Ukraine falls on 10:06 - Nov 24 with 380 views | onehunglow |
| If Ukraine falls on 09:52 - Nov 24 by controversial_jack |
There's no if about it, just a when. |
Got the bunting ready then
It’ll be Xmas and New Year’s Day rolled into one | |
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| If Ukraine falls on 10:41 - Nov 24 with 350 views | sons_of_omri |
| If Ukraine falls on 10:06 - Nov 24 by onehunglow |
Got the bunting ready then
It’ll be Xmas and New Year’s Day rolled into one |
It will be. No more young Ukrainian lives ended short - those 500,000 are too late to save but the West hast to bear the blame for them. Those who facilitated Maidan must be sent to The Hague and tried. Victoria Nuland is chief suspect. | | | |
| If Ukraine falls on 11:25 - Nov 24 with 320 views | Kilkennyjack |
| If Ukraine falls on 10:41 - Nov 24 by sons_of_omri |
It will be. No more young Ukrainian lives ended short - those 500,000 are too late to save but the West hast to bear the blame for them. Those who facilitated Maidan must be sent to The Hague and tried. Victoria Nuland is chief suspect. |
Such a waste of life.
Our idiot Johnson over there telling them not to settle but to fight a war they could not win. Then he went back to being a journalist. The West does bear blame you are right.
As always with wars get it settled before it starts for everyones sake.
Thats the real test of statesmanship.
I know its not always possible but you have to try.
Putin will be gone in 15 years so you can revisit things then. |  |
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| If Ukraine falls on 11:52 - Nov 24 with 292 views | controversial_jack |
| If Ukraine falls on 10:41 - Nov 24 by sons_of_omri |
It will be. No more young Ukrainian lives ended short - those 500,000 are too late to save but the West hast to bear the blame for them. Those who facilitated Maidan must be sent to The Hague and tried. Victoria Nuland is chief suspect. |
Yes, spot on! Someone who gets the big picture at last. | | | |
| If Ukraine falls on 12:17 - Nov 24 with 275 views | AnotherJohn |
| If Ukraine falls on 11:25 - Nov 24 by Kilkennyjack |
Such a waste of life.
Our idiot Johnson over there telling them not to settle but to fight a war they could not win. Then he went back to being a journalist. The West does bear blame you are right.
As always with wars get it settled before it starts for everyones sake.
Thats the real test of statesmanship.
I know its not always possible but you have to try.
Putin will be gone in 15 years so you can revisit things then. |
In 15 years it would be too late for those on Putin's kill list, and beyond that Russia would not stop at the western Ukrainian border.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60472889
The scary thing is that Putin would probably be able to take what is left of the Ukrainian armed forces under his control in the event of total victory. By then the latter would be far less positive about allies who gave security guarantees that proved worthless.
Actually, I do not believe that Putin can take the whole of Ukraine. Russia has suffered huge economic damage and a level of casualties that the society at large still does not fully appreciate. | | | |
| If Ukraine falls on 12:26 - Nov 24 with 264 views | controversial_jack |
| If Ukraine falls on 12:17 - Nov 24 by AnotherJohn |
In 15 years it would be too late for those on Putin's kill list, and beyond that Russia would not stop at the western Ukrainian border.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60472889
The scary thing is that Putin would probably be able to take what is left of the Ukrainian armed forces under his control in the event of total victory. By then the latter would be far less positive about allies who gave security guarantees that proved worthless.
Actually, I do not believe that Putin can take the whole of Ukraine. Russia has suffered huge economic damage and a level of casualties that the society at large still does not fully appreciate. |
They don't need to take it all. Take Kyev, oust the current regime and it's game over. The Ukraine will become a buffer zone, it's military threat with it's neo nazi units negated, the ethnic Russians in the east can have freedom and peace again and NATO going off with in embarrassment. | | | |
| If Ukraine falls on 13:55 - Nov 24 with 214 views | Gwyn737 |
Agreed.
Russia’s GDP spend is going to have significant consequences down the road. It it carries on for another couple of years it will be catastrophic. | | | |
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| If Ukraine falls on 14:16 - Nov 24 with 203 views | onehunglow |
If Ukraine falls,Putin will use that success for justification for taking back former territories they stole . Starting with the Baltic states .
And we have people on this forum supporting them
It’s sick | |
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| If Ukraine falls on 17:33 - Nov 24 with 139 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| If Ukraine falls on 10:41 - Nov 24 by sons_of_omri |
It will be. No more young Ukrainian lives ended short - those 500,000 are too late to save but the West hast to bear the blame for them. Those who facilitated Maidan must be sent to The Hague and tried. Victoria Nuland is chief suspect. |
Why should the west take the blame for these deaths? Is there any thought behind that insanely stupid assertion? |  |
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| If Ukraine falls on 17:42 - Nov 24 with 133 views | onehunglow |
| If Ukraine falls on 17:33 - Nov 24 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Why should the west take the blame for these deaths? Is there any thought behind that insanely stupid assertion? |
It’s the wests fault
Om and Contro live in the west
Why live somewhere you hate
Putin has got trump into the White House which could kill off Ukraine .
Others will follow | |
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| If Ukraine falls on 07:54 - Nov 25 with 9 views | felixstowe_jack |
| If Ukraine falls on 11:25 - Nov 24 by Kilkennyjack |
Such a waste of life.
Our idiot Johnson over there telling them not to settle but to fight a war they could not win. Then he went back to being a journalist. The West does bear blame you are right.
As always with wars get it settled before it starts for everyones sake.
Thats the real test of statesmanship.
I know its not always possible but you have to try.
Putin will be gone in 15 years so you can revisit things then. |
The only person responsible for the 100,000s of Russian and Ukrainian deaths is Putin. | |
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| If Ukraine falls on 07:56 - Nov 25 with 5 views | felixstowe_jack |
| If Ukraine falls on 12:26 - Nov 24 by controversial_jack |
They don't need to take it all. Take Kyev, oust the current regime and it's game over. The Ukraine will become a buffer zone, it's military threat with it's neo nazi units negated, the ethnic Russians in the east can have freedom and peace again and NATO going off with in embarrassment. |
They tried to capture Kyev in the first month of the war and failed. I suppose Putin could carry on targeting civilians. | |
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