| Astonishing 21:33 - Oct 22 with 1918 views | saint22 |
Reading everything it genuinely seems like we are stuck with this manager
You just know we will get to the out of no return and then sack him
Why can’t those in charge make a change now
I don’t buy the money issue as it will cost us way more if we go down again
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| Astonishing on 09:30 - Oct 23 with 1740 views | Ron11 |
It really looks like the point of no return already.
They could put Lallana in there, he could do no worse and has a lot of Prem experience. Potter/Moyes won't come near this club now. | | | |
| Astonishing on 10:25 - Oct 23 with 1699 views | TripleNiemi |
Will deffo be interesting to see if we can surpass Derbys record….. |  |
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| Astonishing on 10:56 - Oct 23 with 1675 views | franniesTache |
Heard from a slightly less reliable than normal source the other day that Martin was genuinely surprised not to be sacked after the Arsenal game.
If he himself is surprised then what hope do we have |  | | |
| Astonishing on 11:01 - Oct 23 with 1671 views | Ifonly |
We are not past the point of no return, but we are past it if we keep RM. If we change manager we would have a small chance of surviving, but we would have a chance. We could also hope to go down fighting instead of rolling over and conceding 3 goals in each crucial half.
If we keep RM then we're down already and probably as the worst team ever to play in the PL. He's said he won't change (which is actually a lie as we've seen already) but he will never change enough, when what we need is a major change of direction. | | | |
| Astonishing on 11:37 - Oct 23 with 1641 views | saintmark1976 |
| Astonishing on 11:01 - Oct 23 by Ifonly |
We are not past the point of no return, but we are past it if we keep RM. If we change manager we would have a small chance of surviving, but we would have a chance. We could also hope to go down fighting instead of rolling over and conceding 3 goals in each crucial half.
If we keep RM then we're down already and probably as the worst team ever to play in the PL. He's said he won't change (which is actually a lie as we've seen already) but he will never change enough, when what we need is a major change of direction. |
Our season is already irretrievable which to me fits Sports Republic’s long term narrative of wanting to be a Championship feeder club to established Premiership teams.
They aren’t currently concerned who manages our club.
That’s how they see the future:- Purchase vast numbers of young players at relatively low cost ( play them in Turkey if necessary) in the hope that one or two out of every batch comes good and they sell on at a vast profit. Case in point Lavia to Chelsea for £50 million.
Long term they know they can’t compete in the Premiership hence becoming a yo-yo club isn’t a problem given the Parachute Payments should we get promoted every now and then. | |
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| Astonishing on 11:38 - Oct 23 with 1640 views | kingolaf |
| Astonishing on 10:56 - Oct 23 by franniesTache |
Heard from a slightly less reliable than normal source the other day that Martin was genuinely surprised not to be sacked after the Arsenal game.
If he himself is surprised then what hope do we have |
His performance on Saturday would point towards somebody who doesn’t want to work here anymore. | | | |
| Astonishing on 11:44 - Oct 23 with 1630 views | Ifonly |
| Astonishing on 11:37 - Oct 23 by saintmark1976 |
Our season is already irretrievable which to me fits Sports Republic’s long term narrative of wanting to be a Championship feeder club to established Premiership teams.
They aren’t currently concerned who manages our club.
That’s how they see the future:- Purchase vast numbers of young players at relatively low cost ( play them in Turkey if necessary) in the hope that one or two out of every batch comes good and they sell on at a vast profit. Case in point Lavia to Chelsea for £50 million.
Long term they know they can’t compete in the Premiership hence becoming a yo-yo club isn’t a problem given the Parachute Payments should we get promoted every now and then. |
No we won't become a yo-yo club. There is no such thing as a long term yo-yo club. It may happen over a few seasons, but not long term. In the long term we will either change direction and re-establish ourselves as a PL club, or there will be a couple of seasons where we miss promotion from the Championship (easily done) so we will lose our parachute payments and then we will become a mid table Championship team like Swansea under Martin. | | | |
| Astonishing on 12:01 - Oct 23 with 1602 views | saintmark1976 |
| Astonishing on 11:44 - Oct 23 by Ifonly |
No we won't become a yo-yo club. There is no such thing as a long term yo-yo club. It may happen over a few seasons, but not long term. In the long term we will either change direction and re-establish ourselves as a PL club, or there will be a couple of seasons where we miss promotion from the Championship (easily done) so we will lose our parachute payments and then we will become a mid table Championship team like Swansea under Martin. |
Ifonly, Given that Sports Republic managed to engineer our exit from The Premiership when we actually had some Premiership quality players and we are now 1/5 to be relegated yet again, your suggestion of re-establishment currently looks the least likely outcome I’m afraid.
Yo-Yo is the best we can hope for with them in control. [Post edited 23 Oct 12:03]
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 19:23 - Oct 23 with 1337 views | Chesham_Saint |
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| Astonishing on 20:38 - Oct 23 with 1268 views | grumpy |
Just getting bored of it all now. |  | | |
| Astonishing on 12:12 - Oct 24 with 1090 views | arfurdent |
All about income from parachute payments.
Bigger profit in getting regularly promoted / relegated with a Championship quality squad than spending big money to reach 16th |  |
| And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's off with her head |
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| Astonishing on 12:45 - Oct 24 with 1059 views | dirk_doone |
| Astonishing on 11:38 - Oct 23 by kingolaf |
His performance on Saturday would point towards somebody who doesn’t want to work here anymore. |
He must be disappointed he's still here because getting fired now would be quite a good career move for him. His CV wouldn't be tarnished by our relegation and he'd probably still be able to attract job offers from Championship clubs.
He'd also get paid a lot of money without having to worry about our results any more. He knows now is the best time for him to get fired. The last thing he wants is to be sacked at the end of the worst Premier League season in history. That would leave him as permanently damaged goods and I should imagine he'd find the huge dent in his personal pride very hard to take.
Why they haven't sacked him yet:
https://www.southamptonfc.news/news/the-one-financial-stumbling-block-holding-sp [Post edited 24 Oct 13:20]
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| Astonishing on 07:07 - Oct 25 with 814 views | Berber |
| Astonishing on 12:45 - Oct 24 by dirk_doone |
He must be disappointed he's still here because getting fired now would be quite a good career move for him. His CV wouldn't be tarnished by our relegation and he'd probably still be able to attract job offers from Championship clubs.
He'd also get paid a lot of money without having to worry about our results any more. He knows now is the best time for him to get fired. The last thing he wants is to be sacked at the end of the worst Premier League season in history. That would leave him as permanently damaged goods and I should imagine he'd find the huge dent in his personal pride very hard to take.
Why they haven't sacked him yet:
https://www.southamptonfc.news/news/the-one-financial-stumbling-block-holding-sp [Post edited 24 Oct 13:20]
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No dent to his pride. I predict that at the end of the season we’ll hear that the squad couldn’t learn quickly enough. SR certainly like the snake oil he is selling. |  |
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| Astonishing on 07:36 - Oct 25 with 802 views | cocklebreath |
| Astonishing on 12:12 - Oct 24 by arfurdent |
All about income from parachute payments.
Bigger profit in getting regularly promoted / relegated with a Championship quality squad than spending big money to reach 16th |
They spent over 100 million on a load of sh!t, that doesn’t strike me as a good financial plan. |  |
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