| China - World war three in the offing? on 12:49 - May 27 with 574 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 11:02 - May 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It’s not about good vs bad. This isn’t Star Wars. I’m sure Alderaan had a few wrong uns and Nazis living on it but that doesn’t excuse Tarkin Moff blowing the whole place up. |
UK had Moseley and the brown shirts. All countries had Neo Nazis 80+ years ago. They are now mostly dead.
You are dancing to Russian mood music. Ukraine war is a straight land grab linking Russia to the Crimea and controlling the energy and water supply and cutting Ukraine off from the sea. Mariupol was always going to get trashed whether the people were Ukrainian or not. |  |
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| China - World war three in the offing? on 13:14 - May 27 with 558 views | SullutaCreturned |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 10:33 - May 27 by trampie |
I know I just looked at the original thread, Cat had no idea about Nazis in Ukraine before the invasion by the look of it, but he wasn't alone, most posters on here didnt have a clue. |
See, that's just another bad assumption on your part and there's n surprise that you were wrong again.
When you say most posters on here don't have a clue I think maybe you'd most likely find that most posters on here would say you don't have a clue. You or Contro.
Honest question, what made you say I didn't have a clue about Azov? My opinin has been that Putin didn't invade because of Neo Nazis, it was just an excuse which is obvious when he utilises Nazi's himself. If he was so worried about them, why does he employ them?
Did you realise Putin has been using a Neo Nazi group in Ukraine? Did you read the link I posted previously?
https://theconversation.com/putins-fascists-the-russian-states-long-history-of-c
Maybe you don't quite understand that dismissing Putin's reason for the invasion isn't the same as not knowing there are Neo's in Ukraine. |  | | |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 13:31 - May 27 with 528 views | trampie |
Read the original thread. |  |
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| China - World war three in the offing? on 13:34 - May 27 with 527 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 12:49 - May 27 by ReslovenSwan1 |
UK had Moseley and the brown shirts. All countries had Neo Nazis 80+ years ago. They are now mostly dead.
You are dancing to Russian mood music. Ukraine war is a straight land grab linking Russia to the Crimea and controlling the energy and water supply and cutting Ukraine off from the sea. Mariupol was always going to get trashed whether the people were Ukrainian or not. |
It’s absolutely shocking to hear that people who were in their 20’s and 30’s 80+ years ago are now all dead. Is there anything we can do to stop this happening again? |  |
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| China - World war three in the offing? on 13:37 - May 27 with 523 views | SullutaCreturned |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 13:34 - May 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It’s absolutely shocking to hear that people who were in their 20’s and 30’s 80+ years ago are now all dead. Is there anything we can do to stop this happening again? |
Kill them all before they make 19?
Blow up the world so in 80 years time nobody is dying? | | | |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 13:45 - May 27 with 504 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 13:37 - May 27 by SullutaCreturned |
Kill them all before they make 19?
Blow up the world so in 80 years time nobody is dying? |
The amount of 110+ year olds we just allow to die is the scandal of our time. | |
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| China - World war three in the offing? on 13:48 - May 27 with 489 views | SullutaCreturned |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 13:45 - May 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The amount of 110+ year olds we just allow to die is the scandal of our time. |
We could go all Logans run on them. It's a thought. Then there'd be no 110 year olds there to die. | | | |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 14:07 - May 27 with 482 views | controversial_jack |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 12:49 - May 27 by ReslovenSwan1 |
UK had Moseley and the brown shirts. All countries had Neo Nazis 80+ years ago. They are now mostly dead.
You are dancing to Russian mood music. Ukraine war is a straight land grab linking Russia to the Crimea and controlling the energy and water supply and cutting Ukraine off from the sea. Mariupol was always going to get trashed whether the people were Ukrainian or not. |
Nope. It's not about Land, why would it be? Russia is huge, it has more resources than any country on earth. Why would it destroy the Ukrainian infrastructure if it wanted a land grab? There's no sense to your assertions.
The Ukraine shut off the water supply to the Crimea and the Russians restored it. | | | |
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| China - World war three in the offing? on 14:34 - May 27 with 471 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 14:07 - May 27 by controversial_jack |
Nope. It's not about Land, why would it be? Russia is huge, it has more resources than any country on earth. Why would it destroy the Ukrainian infrastructure if it wanted a land grab? There's no sense to your assertions.
The Ukraine shut off the water supply to the Crimea and the Russians restored it. |
Putin is attempting to emulate the achievements of Catherine and Peter the great. Particularly Peter. It doesn’t go any deeper than that. All this talk of Nazis and neutrality and demilitarisation is just his casus beli.
Catherine the great invaded and conquered crimea and what is now southern Ukraine. It is significant that that is where Putin went first. Once he feels that is secure he will start his own great northern war and that’s when the shit will really hit the fan. Fingers crossed he’ll be dead long before that happens. | |
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| China - World war three in the offing? on 14:39 - May 27 with 470 views | controversial_jack |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 14:34 - May 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Putin is attempting to emulate the achievements of Catherine and Peter the great. Particularly Peter. It doesn’t go any deeper than that. All this talk of Nazis and neutrality and demilitarisation is just his casus beli.
Catherine the great invaded and conquered crimea and what is now southern Ukraine. It is significant that that is where Putin went first. Once he feels that is secure he will start his own great northern war and that’s when the shit will really hit the fan. Fingers crossed he’ll be dead long before that happens. |
He's not doing anything of the sort, why would he. the last Soviet empire collapsed, so why would he want to go back to that.Russia will be part of a bigger trading block called BRICS | | | |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 15:50 - May 27 with 459 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 14:39 - May 27 by controversial_jack |
He's not doing anything of the sort, why would he. the last Soviet empire collapsed, so why would he want to go back to that.Russia will be part of a bigger trading block called BRICS |
It’s not me you’re arguing with it’s your mate Vlad who said it. From the horses mouth…well he’s more of a Shetland pony really:
“Russian President Vladimir Putin paid tribute on Thursday to Tsar Peter the Great on the 350th anniversary of his birth, drawing a parallel between what he portrayed as their twin historic quests to win back Russian lands.
"Peter the Great waged the Great Northern War for 21 years. It would seem that he was at war with Sweden, he took something from them. He did not take anything from them, he returned (what was Russia's)," Putin said after a visiting an exhibition dedicated to the tsar.”
“In televised comments on day 106 of his war in Ukraine, he compared Peter's campaign with the task facing Russia today.
"Apparently, it also fell to us to return (what is Russia's) and strengthen (the country). And if we proceed from the fact that these basic values form the basis of our existence, we will certainly succeed in solving the tasks that we face."
That seems pretty conclusive really. It’s a land grab. Pure naked greedy imperialism in the 21st century. And you’ve supported it every single step of the way. [Post edited 27 May 15:55]
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| China - World war three in the offing? on 16:07 - May 27 with 439 views | onehunglow |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 15:50 - May 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It’s not me you’re arguing with it’s your mate Vlad who said it. From the horses mouth…well he’s more of a Shetland pony really:
“Russian President Vladimir Putin paid tribute on Thursday to Tsar Peter the Great on the 350th anniversary of his birth, drawing a parallel between what he portrayed as their twin historic quests to win back Russian lands.
"Peter the Great waged the Great Northern War for 21 years. It would seem that he was at war with Sweden, he took something from them. He did not take anything from them, he returned (what was Russia's)," Putin said after a visiting an exhibition dedicated to the tsar.”
“In televised comments on day 106 of his war in Ukraine, he compared Peter's campaign with the task facing Russia today.
"Apparently, it also fell to us to return (what is Russia's) and strengthen (the country). And if we proceed from the fact that these basic values form the basis of our existence, we will certainly succeed in solving the tasks that we face."
That seems pretty conclusive really. It’s a land grab. Pure naked greedy imperialism in the 21st century. And you’ve supported it every single step of the way. [Post edited 27 May 15:55]
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Leave Contro be for a spell.
He’s let a run over dog dying in a ditch | |
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| China - World war three in the offing? on 16:08 - May 27 with 439 views | controversial_jack |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 15:50 - May 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It’s not me you’re arguing with it’s your mate Vlad who said it. From the horses mouth…well he’s more of a Shetland pony really:
“Russian President Vladimir Putin paid tribute on Thursday to Tsar Peter the Great on the 350th anniversary of his birth, drawing a parallel between what he portrayed as their twin historic quests to win back Russian lands.
"Peter the Great waged the Great Northern War for 21 years. It would seem that he was at war with Sweden, he took something from them. He did not take anything from them, he returned (what was Russia's)," Putin said after a visiting an exhibition dedicated to the tsar.”
“In televised comments on day 106 of his war in Ukraine, he compared Peter's campaign with the task facing Russia today.
"Apparently, it also fell to us to return (what is Russia's) and strengthen (the country). And if we proceed from the fact that these basic values form the basis of our existence, we will certainly succeed in solving the tasks that we face."
That seems pretty conclusive really. It’s a land grab. Pure naked greedy imperialism in the 21st century. And you’ve supported it every single step of the way. [Post edited 27 May 15:55]
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Yes.he admires him, we admire figures from our past. When he said return to us he would have meant the areas the were predominately Russian, the Crimea, Donbass etc. It doesn't mean he's going to attack Poland or Sweden etc, it's too costly these days as we found out in the middle east | | | |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 17:45 - May 27 with 401 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 16:08 - May 27 by controversial_jack |
Yes.he admires him, we admire figures from our past. When he said return to us he would have meant the areas the were predominately Russian, the Crimea, Donbass etc. It doesn't mean he's going to attack Poland or Sweden etc, it's too costly these days as we found out in the middle east |
Do you then believe that Russia has the right to “return” what was once theirs? | |
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| China - World war three in the offing? on 17:49 - May 27 with 398 views | controversial_jack |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 17:45 - May 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Do you then believe that Russia has the right to “return” what was once theirs? |
They can try, But I doubt Russia will give it up | | | |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 18:32 - May 27 with 373 views | onehunglow |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 15:50 - May 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
It’s not me you’re arguing with it’s your mate Vlad who said it. From the horses mouth…well he’s more of a Shetland pony really:
“Russian President Vladimir Putin paid tribute on Thursday to Tsar Peter the Great on the 350th anniversary of his birth, drawing a parallel between what he portrayed as their twin historic quests to win back Russian lands.
"Peter the Great waged the Great Northern War for 21 years. It would seem that he was at war with Sweden, he took something from them. He did not take anything from them, he returned (what was Russia's)," Putin said after a visiting an exhibition dedicated to the tsar.”
“In televised comments on day 106 of his war in Ukraine, he compared Peter's campaign with the task facing Russia today.
"Apparently, it also fell to us to return (what is Russia's) and strengthen (the country). And if we proceed from the fact that these basic values form the basis of our existence, we will certainly succeed in solving the tasks that we face."
That seems pretty conclusive really. It’s a land grab. Pure naked greedy imperialism in the 21st century. And you’ve supported it every single step of the way. [Post edited 27 May 15:55]
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It is all about land lost when communism broke up. | |
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| China - World war three in the offing? on 18:56 - May 27 with 360 views | AnotherJohn |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 14:39 - May 27 by controversial_jack |
He's not doing anything of the sort, why would he. the last Soviet empire collapsed, so why would he want to go back to that.Russia will be part of a bigger trading block called BRICS |
There is a reason why people say Putin is influenced by the achievements of Peter the Great. Anybody who had followed events since the invasion would be aware of that.
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=putin+peter+the+great+speec | | | |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 20:05 - May 27 with 328 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The other thing Putin has in common with Peter is that they were both evil sadistic dictators who murdered people for fun. There’s an old myth that Peter the Great having uncovered his wife’s affair had her lover impaled then pickled his head and genitals in a jar and insisted it sat on his wife’s bedroom table so it would be the first thing she saw after waking and the last thing she saw at night. | |
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| China - World war three in the offing? on 09:26 - May 28 with 268 views | onehunglow |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 20:05 - May 27 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The other thing Putin has in common with Peter is that they were both evil sadistic dictators who murdered people for fun. There’s an old myth that Peter the Great having uncovered his wife’s affair had her lover impaled then pickled his head and genitals in a jar and insisted it sat on his wife’s bedroom table so it would be the first thing she saw after waking and the last thing she saw at night. |
That sounds ridiculous .
It infers Russians are sub human .
I mean their behaviour throughout history ,especially in conflicts ,is beyond reproach .
It’s “ weird” having folk who actually support those who hate us . They admit such. | |
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| China - World war three in the offing? on 09:37 - May 28 with 261 views | controversial_jack |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 09:26 - May 28 by onehunglow |
That sounds ridiculous .
It infers Russians are sub human .
I mean their behaviour throughout history ,especially in conflicts ,is beyond reproach .
It’s “ weird” having folk who actually support those who hate us . They admit such. |
You need to have a lie down. Russia are amateurs in comparison To Britain, Germany, France, Spain, USA, need I go on. Look at their colonial history, absolutely appalling! | | | |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 09:52 - May 28 with 256 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 09:37 - May 28 by controversial_jack |
You need to have a lie down. Russia are amateurs in comparison To Britain, Germany, France, Spain, USA, need I go on. Look at their colonial history, absolutely appalling! |
Apart from Britain, Russia had a much bigger empire than all of those countries combined. It was called “The Russian Empire” for a reason.
Are you even aware of the horrors the Tsars and the Russian empire inflicted upon the indigenous peoples of the north and far east? Given your past displays of ignorance around basic facets of history I will take the liberty to presume not. | |
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| China - World war three in the offing? on 10:13 - May 28 with 250 views | onehunglow |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 09:52 - May 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Apart from Britain, Russia had a much bigger empire than all of those countries combined. It was called “The Russian Empire” for a reason.
Are you even aware of the horrors the Tsars and the Russian empire inflicted upon the indigenous peoples of the north and far east? Given your past displays of ignorance around basic facets of history I will take the liberty to presume not. |
Think the Yalta conference and its legacy is self evident really
As for cruelty, the Zbritish were amateurs in comparison
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| China - World war three in the offing? on 11:53 - May 28 with 221 views | controversial_jack |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 09:52 - May 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Apart from Britain, Russia had a much bigger empire than all of those countries combined. It was called “The Russian Empire” for a reason.
Are you even aware of the horrors the Tsars and the Russian empire inflicted upon the indigenous peoples of the north and far east? Given your past displays of ignorance around basic facets of history I will take the liberty to presume not. |
No empires were for the good, they all oppressed the indigenous , and yes they were brutal, but no worse than any other. I'm sure that you can provide me with a figure for the civilian deaths then we can compare | | | |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 12:41 - May 28 with 198 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 11:53 - May 28 by controversial_jack |
No empires were for the good, they all oppressed the indigenous , and yes they were brutal, but no worse than any other. I'm sure that you can provide me with a figure for the civilian deaths then we can compare |
The Circassian genocide? The Russian Empire massacred and tortured around 3 million people in just a few years, mainly for being Muslim. The way they killed the women in brutal sexual fashion would even make Jack the Ripper look like a child at play.
To say the Russian empire were “amateurs” compared to the others is showing a gross ignorance of the facts or perhaps you’re just blinded by bias.
The fact the Russian empire is the third biggest empire in history spanning three continents for hundreds of years is somehow lost on you as you seek to absolve them of their colonial and imperial past which is obvious to anybody with the intelligence greater than that of a half digested Pringle. | |
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| China - World war three in the offing? on 12:51 - May 28 with 196 views | controversial_jack |
| China - World war three in the offing? on 12:41 - May 28 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The Circassian genocide? The Russian Empire massacred and tortured around 3 million people in just a few years, mainly for being Muslim. The way they killed the women in brutal sexual fashion would even make Jack the Ripper look like a child at play.
To say the Russian empire were “amateurs” compared to the others is showing a gross ignorance of the facts or perhaps you’re just blinded by bias.
The fact the Russian empire is the third biggest empire in history spanning three continents for hundreds of years is somehow lost on you as you seek to absolve them of their colonial and imperial past which is obvious to anybody with the intelligence greater than that of a half digested Pringle. |
Compare that to Britain, who killed up to 100 million in India alone | | | |
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