| Intensity#2 22:13 - Jan 2 with 6845 views | oldmeadoniansR |
What an unbelievable difference. The first half was incredible. Every first ball, every second ball and all the balls in between. Played quicker, plated braver, played with spirit. A complete transformation. Sheffield United looked ordinary. So good to see. Pride is vack in this team. Sure, the last minute goal is a gutter but I think this is bigger than that. Many; including myself were predicting a really tough remainder of the season. This shows what can ve done. Great credit to all involved. The nanager the players the fans. Ok I may be getting carried away but this felt like a completely different team. Great to see. |  | | |  |
| Intensity#2 on 10:18 - Jan 4 with 1399 views | terryb |
| Intensity#2 on 18:01 - Jan 3 by PinnerPaul |
We agree again!
Its a bit of a football myth IMHO.
These refs have done hundreds of games, thousands the older ones.
The GK handball for example, both teams went to the referee, Sheff to try to convince him it wasn't handball, and/or Dykes fouled the GK and/or it wasn't a red and we to try to convince him it was a red - totally pointless, he had given the foul, it was never a red, so surrounding the referee achieved nothing, as it never does. |
I've said it before & no doubt I will say it again!
In my experience, if I told the referee early in the match that he had got a decision against us correct (even if he didn't) & I'd be given every 50/50 afterwards.
Scream at him & I got nothing! It's a case of knowing your referee & using the psychology that works with that individual. | | | |
| Intensity#2 on 13:59 - Jan 4 with 1318 views | PinnerPaul |
| Intensity#2 on 10:18 - Jan 4 by terryb |
I've said it before & no doubt I will say it again!
In my experience, if I told the referee early in the match that he had got a decision against us correct (even if he didn't) & I'd be given every 50/50 afterwards.
Scream at him & I got nothing! It's a case of knowing your referee & using the psychology that works with that individual. |
Yesssssss but think you'll agree the refs we get SHOULD be good enough, and most are, to ignore all that ******, by this stage in their careers. | | | |
| Intensity#2 on 15:36 - Jan 4 with 1272 views | Northernr |
| Intensity#2 on 13:59 - Jan 4 by PinnerPaul |
Yesssssss but think you'll agree the refs we get SHOULD be good enough, and most are, to ignore all that ******, by this stage in their careers. |
Well I went to Preston last week where we had one of the most experienced referees in the Championship. Between him and his AR they made what I thought was a complete bolox of an easy offside decision, but we decided under the perversity of the modern interpretation of that rule they might have been right, but either way the QPR players and fans behind that goal went absolutely apesht over it and lo and behold the very second the resulting corner kick was taken a free kick was awarded for absolutely nothing at all. If the players and supporters had just accepted that decision and said nothing to him do we get that free kick? I don't think so. |  | | |
| Intensity#2 on 15:47 - Jan 4 with 1230 views | PinnerPaul |
| Intensity#2 on 15:36 - Jan 4 by Northernr |
Well I went to Preston last week where we had one of the most experienced referees in the Championship. Between him and his AR they made what I thought was a complete bolox of an easy offside decision, but we decided under the perversity of the modern interpretation of that rule they might have been right, but either way the QPR players and fans behind that goal went absolutely apesht over it and lo and behold the very second the resulting corner kick was taken a free kick was awarded for absolutely nothing at all. If the players and supporters had just accepted that decision and said nothing to him do we get that free kick? I don't think so. |
That's a fair point, and something referees at all levels are aware of, or should be - the difference between the usual moaning and the protests that follow an obviously wrong call.
At this level, it obviously gets harder, as players will moan about even the most obvious calls - sometimes to save a card, sometimes to get another player a card, sometimes, as you say, to get the 'next' decision.
I'm saying, part of the skill set at this level has to be to ignore all the 'noise' and just carry on making the calls as you see fit.
I agree about that soft free kick, baffling ,because, as you say, we 'agreed' (Slightly strong word there perhaps  ) that technically the offside WAS correct. | | | |
| Intensity#2 on 17:08 - Jan 4 with 1200 views | terryb |
| Intensity#2 on 13:59 - Jan 4 by PinnerPaul |
Yesssssss but think you'll agree the refs we get SHOULD be good enough, and most are, to ignore all that ******, by this stage in their careers. |
Some of them were FL officials Paul, some of which had reached Division One/Premier level as linesmen.
Gordon Kew, FA Cup final referee, told me that I moaned more than Stan Bowles! Talking to him was what changed my approach & he told me it would make a big difference to how many decisions I gained. And it did! | | | |
| Intensity#2 on 17:43 - Jan 4 with 1171 views | PinnerPaul |
| Intensity#2 on 17:08 - Jan 4 by terryb |
Some of them were FL officials Paul, some of which had reached Division One/Premier level as linesmen.
Gordon Kew, FA Cup final referee, told me that I moaned more than Stan Bowles! Talking to him was what changed my approach & he told me it would make a big difference to how many decisions I gained. And it did! |
Fair enough Terry | | | |
| Intensity#2 on 18:14 - Jan 4 with 1151 views | Hunterhoop |
For Christ’s sake boys, being in the refs ear does not mean calling him c**t. It’s about making your voice on on key decisions. Making it clear when you think an injustice has been done (just like admitting when that was a foul by you). Point is, you need to have a voice. If you don’t you cannot influence. We are nice and it makes the game harder for us. We’re a doddle to referee because we never highlight injustices.
If you have one team pointing out potential injustices throughout a game and the other saying nothing, it is human nature that you might question yourself and think perhaps I am being too lenient one way; after all they haven’t complained once…
This doesn’t mean spitting in the refs face. We play like we expect to get bullied and the raw end of the deal and when we do we shrug our shoulders. That needs changing. We’re soft. |  | | |
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| Intensity#2 on 12:41 - Jan 5 with 1065 views | PinnerPaul |
"Good enough to ignore the dissent."
Bit of selective quoting there!
No worries mate, tongue in cheek I realise that! | | | |
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