| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL 17:17 - Jan 25 with 5705 views | 34dfgdf54 |
Doesn’t seem right considering they’ve just paid over £1.5m in transfers |  | | |  |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:20 - Jan 25 with 3560 views | magicdaps10 |
That's is a pee take!
2 new signings and then apply for this. It's like me going out for a slap up meal and then going to a food bank the next day.
They really are currently a joke of a club. |  |
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| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:26 - Jan 25 with 3529 views | vetchonian |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:20 - Jan 25 by magicdaps10 |
That's is a pee take!
2 new signings and then apply for this. It's like me going out for a slap up meal and then going to a food bank the next day.
They really are currently a joke of a club. |
Big clu big debt.......and they havent been told to stump up for Sala yet!!! |  |
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| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:28 - Jan 25 with 3526 views | johnlangy |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:26 - Jan 25 by vetchonian |
Big clu big debt.......and they havent been told to stump up for Sala yet!!! |
Maybe that's why they need to borrow the money. | | | |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:31 - Jan 25 with 3516 views | Humpty |
That is absolutely taking the piss. |  | | |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:35 - Jan 25 with 3500 views | pembsjack |
I thought that if you borrowed through this scheme you basically placed under a transfer embargo for this window, or was I dreaming that? | | | |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:37 - Jan 25 with 3488 views | Catullus |
Can't their owner lend them the money...then convert it to equity later? Or is Tan giving up on bankrolling the sleeping giants?
I wonder if Tan is losing interest?
I don't think this is a pee take though. Many clubs are in this positionand most of them will have been making loans and transfers.
Just be grateful we are in a financially sound position, unlike them up the road!! | |
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| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:38 - Jan 25 with 3489 views | 34dfgdf54 |
From a CCFC supporting colleague:
<< Dalman has said today that we’re currently paying out 3m a month. Not sure if that’s high or not for our level but he said we’d struggle to cover that without Tans backing in current climate>>
In big, big trouble if they need to pay Nantes I reckon. | | | |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:42 - Jan 25 with 3473 views | Catullus |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:38 - Jan 25 by 34dfgdf54 |
From a CCFC supporting colleague:
<< Dalman has said today that we’re currently paying out 3m a month. Not sure if that’s high or not for our level but he said we’d struggle to cover that without Tans backing in current climate>>
In big, big trouble if they need to pay Nantes I reckon. |
There's this,
https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.php?447423-How-can-the-Club-be-losing-%A33m-a-
Some real concerns out there in sleeping giant land. | |
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| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:44 - Jan 25 with 3463 views | Neath_Jack |
It says in the headline they have applied for it.
I haven't read the article, but hopefully they will be turned down for it. It's a complete piss take if they are allowed to buy those two new players, then the following week go cap in hand. Stinks to high heaven if they get it. |  |
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| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:47 - Jan 25 with 3445 views | Nortbankboy |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:44 - Jan 25 by Neath_Jack |
It says in the headline they have applied for it.
I haven't read the article, but hopefully they will be turned down for it. It's a complete piss take if they are allowed to buy those two new players, then the following week go cap in hand. Stinks to high heaven if they get it. |
Starving gets! | | | |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:47 - Jan 25 with 3439 views | Dr_Winston |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:37 - Jan 25 by Catullus |
Can't their owner lend them the money...then convert it to equity later? Or is Tan giving up on bankrolling the sleeping giants?
I wonder if Tan is losing interest?
I don't think this is a pee take though. Many clubs are in this positionand most of them will have been making loans and transfers.
Just be grateful we are in a financially sound position, unlike them up the road!! |
According to Forbes, Tan's net worth has dropped from $1.2bn since the start of the pandemic to $750m now. Thats enough of a dent in anyone's business operations to make the ongoing subsidy of one of the lesser parts of his empire an unattractive proposition, never mind throwing away another $150m or so writing off even more debt.
Chuck in £15m for Sala and more reduced parachute payments due and they're on decidedly thin ice. Wouldn't be surprised if there's truth to the belief that they've plumped for McCarthy instead of pressing the reset button because they simply don't have the time to do that. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:51 - Jan 25 with 3434 views | Chief |
They took on Harry Wilsons wages on when there was no prospect of incomings back to normal.
No sympathy and its ridiculous they are going for this considering they're still spending!! |  |
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| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:59 - Jan 25 with 3409 views | Humpty |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:37 - Jan 25 by Catullus |
Can't their owner lend them the money...then convert it to equity later? Or is Tan giving up on bankrolling the sleeping giants?
I wonder if Tan is losing interest?
I don't think this is a pee take though. Many clubs are in this positionand most of them will have been making loans and transfers.
Just be grateful we are in a financially sound position, unlike them up the road!! |
Then we'll agree to disagree. How anyone can not think that's taking the piss I don't know. | | | |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 18:15 - Jan 25 with 3369 views | jasper_T |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:37 - Jan 25 by Catullus |
Can't their owner lend them the money...then convert it to equity later? Or is Tan giving up on bankrolling the sleeping giants?
I wonder if Tan is losing interest?
I don't think this is a pee take though. Many clubs are in this positionand most of them will have been making loans and transfers.
Just be grateful we are in a financially sound position, unlike them up the road!! |
He's done that for tens of millions (probably over £100m by now) already. Regardless of how interested anyone is eventually you stop shovelling into the money pit.
Benefit of selling players and clearing that PL deficit is we don't have to service £60m+ of debt now, when income is even shorter than expected without attendances. We're in a position to spend the money on huge wages for Hourihane for a promotion push without breaking the bank. | | | |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 18:32 - Jan 25 with 3328 views | ItchySphincter |
I’m going to be careful not to gloat here. There’s no doubt that football in general takes the p!ss but this could have happened to anyone, who knows? Could we be next? Have our owners gone full tilt for promotion knowing that if we don’t do it we’re in trouble? Cardiff look as if they’ve written off their season other than consolidation and trying to get their ducks I order. I think our owners, chief exec, management should get a bit of praise if we navigate our ways through these choppy waters without getting bummed like them up the road. [Post edited 25 Jan 2021 18:33]
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| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 18:36 - Jan 25 with 3327 views | Joe_bradshaw |
They’ve spent money on transfers and they’re getting parachute payments.
What a joke. |  |
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| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 18:43 - Jan 25 with 3302 views | thornabyswan |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 17:26 - Jan 25 by vetchonian |
Big clu big debt.......and they havent been told to stump up for Sala yet!!! |
This cant be right they are a massive club and are owned by a billionaire. | |
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| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 18:57 - Jan 25 with 3255 views | AguycalledJack |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 18:32 - Jan 25 by ItchySphincter |
I’m going to be careful not to gloat here. There’s no doubt that football in general takes the p!ss but this could have happened to anyone, who knows? Could we be next? Have our owners gone full tilt for promotion knowing that if we don’t do it we’re in trouble? Cardiff look as if they’ve written off their season other than consolidation and trying to get their ducks I order. I think our owners, chief exec, management should get a bit of praise if we navigate our ways through these choppy waters without getting bummed like them up the road. [Post edited 25 Jan 2021 18:33]
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Yes, but over on anus site there’s a thread bemoaning the fact that the wag are helping the rugby clubs and that Cardiff, Swansea and Newport Football clubs get nothing. I’m not up on the history of these things but if they get one then surely the likes of bury etc should have also been given one? | | | |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 18:57 - Jan 25 with 3254 views | heatwave |
Doesn't sound great. If they were to go into Admin it's the only thing they would say we are better at. |  | | |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 18:59 - Jan 25 with 3231 views | Dr_Winston |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 18:57 - Jan 25 by AguycalledJack |
Yes, but over on anus site there’s a thread bemoaning the fact that the wag are helping the rugby clubs and that Cardiff, Swansea and Newport Football clubs get nothing. I’m not up on the history of these things but if they get one then surely the likes of bury etc should have also been given one? |
Isn't there some sort of FIFA/UEFA rule against state aid for football clubs? | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 19:00 - Jan 25 with 3231 views | Chief |
Id have sympathy for them if they hadn't knowingly taken on Wilsons wages in January knowing there was no imminent end to the pandemic in sight, buying players just last week and also sacking (and paying off) managers and coaching team and taking on another manager and staff.
All completely avoidable outlays for a club in 'trouble'. | |
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| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 19:01 - Jan 25 with 3229 views | AguycalledJack |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 18:59 - Jan 25 by Dr_Winston |
Isn't there some sort of FIFA/UEFA rule against state aid for football clubs? |
I think that you may be correct. | | | |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 19:02 - Jan 25 with 3222 views | raynor94 |
Could be in deep doggy doo soon, involved in 3 court cases, which could end up costing them £50 Million! |  |
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| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 19:03 - Jan 25 with 3215 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 18:32 - Jan 25 by ItchySphincter |
I’m going to be careful not to gloat here. There’s no doubt that football in general takes the p!ss but this could have happened to anyone, who knows? Could we be next? Have our owners gone full tilt for promotion knowing that if we don’t do it we’re in trouble? Cardiff look as if they’ve written off their season other than consolidation and trying to get their ducks I order. I think our owners, chief exec, management should get a bit of praise if we navigate our ways through these choppy waters without getting bummed like them up the road. [Post edited 25 Jan 2021 18:33]
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See I think that’s what Cardiff have done, they’ve gone full tilt on promotion and it’s a gamble which looks like it’s falling apart. The money they shelled out on Moore and Wilson, the latter being hell of a lot more than their media are trying to make out, they was expecting to go up this year in what is their last season of getting parachute (only get two if you only last a season I believe)
It’s gone belly up, the sala thing over their heads and now Tan losing serious cash over Covid at the same time his club are losing £3m per month due to Covid and financial mismanagement. They haven’t got assets like ourselves (Roberts, Cabango, Grimes) and it’s turned into a perfect storm for them. I think they are in big, big trouble if the court case goes against them. [Post edited 25 Jan 2021 19:04]
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| Cardiff Apply for Loan off EFL on 19:09 - Jan 25 with 3185 views | Boundy |
That's gotta hurt :
"Postby Forever Blue » Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:55 pm
The group of fans were told that Cardiff fans did not appreciate that the Committee had gone out and brought in young managers like Paul Trollope and Neil Harris, so we have tried that way.
The Committee tried for a young/modern big name and he turned us down saying "I want bigger things and a bigger club to manage."
"I am also more ambitious than Cardiff they were told, I can better myself."
So the fans were told we have now turned to the old style Mick McCarthy." | |
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