| Football Violence. 11:10 - Nov 17 with 38250 views | qpr_1968 |
What was your first experience of football violence/crowd disturbance.
and did that first experience have an effect on you.....not being involved, but as a by stander.
The first was at home to glasgow rangers, pre season friendly in 1969, as an 11 year old it was pretty hairy, and although not very violent in the ground, the atmosphere was intense.
outside though plenty of trouble, in later years i've learnt that west ham and tottenham fans were there for trouble.
it did have an immediate effect, one terrified but excited the same time, but that was when i was nearly home after.....just to add, 3 of us all 11 year olds went to the game on our own, from sutton esteate off north pole road.
First away experience was at leeds in 1973, 2-2 draw.
we went by football special, 400 on the train in all, in them days everyone was a target, wearing your colours or getting caught out by your accent.
we had trouble at the turnstiles before the game, no segregation, and lots of leeds fans in what we now call the away end.
coming out was even worse, hundreds of leeds fans waiting outside to pick you off, and a few did get caught out and beaten up....thank god for the green buses back to the train station. |  |
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| Football Violence. on 18:51 - Nov 17 with 4437 views | Hastings_Hoops |
Not football violence by any stretch, but my favourite ‘moronic moment’ was away at Cambridge in 2001/2002ish when we lost 2-1 and one of our own bright sparks got so angry with the lino that he threw his mobile phone at him. Genius. |  | | |
| Football Violence. on 18:58 - Nov 17 with 4412 views | Rs_Holy |
| Football Violence. on 16:56 - Nov 17 by ParkRoyalR |
Thornton Heath was the station it all spilled onto the platform and kicked off,
Headed to the game after school with two school pals, left 5 minutes early, wrong call, we were chased down the hill towards Selhurst Station and one of the lads (a crazy Slav) got weighed through a rather large privet hedge!
Onto aforesaid carriage, where a few older Palace were trying to bully some younger Rangers, heading towards us till an R's dad stood up and with a growl of 'leave the kids alone' (think John Rambo or Arnie Swarz and you'll get the scene) chinned the Palace bully, train pulled into the station and all spilled onto the platform where more Rangers were waiting, Karma. |
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| Football Violence. on 19:14 - Nov 17 with 4385 views | stowmarketrange |
| Football Violence. on 18:51 - Nov 17 by Hastings_Hoops |
Not football violence by any stretch, but my favourite ‘moronic moment’ was away at Cambridge in 2001/2002ish when we lost 2-1 and one of our own bright sparks got so angry with the lino that he threw his mobile phone at him. Genius. |
I was in the family? Stand on the opposite side of the pitch,and a few of the locals got a bit mouthy about me slightly abusing their long haired keeper about the time wasting.My kids weren’t amused too much.
We did see the magic man Kevin Gallen on his way into the stand though. |  | | |
| Football Violence. on 20:02 - Nov 17 with 4334 views | Hastings_Hoops |
| Football Violence. on 19:14 - Nov 17 by stowmarketrange |
I was in the family? Stand on the opposite side of the pitch,and a few of the locals got a bit mouthy about me slightly abusing their long haired keeper about the time wasting.My kids weren’t amused too much.
We did see the magic man Kevin Gallen on his way into the stand though. |
That was a dark day. The walk back through the cow field after the game was the icing on the cake. | | | |
| Football Violence. on 20:49 - Nov 17 with 4232 views | soops |
When we beat Chelsea 3-1 in 1987 after the game we were walking down the steps at the back of the Loft. Someone had a radio playing and Peter Jones was saying “disgraceful scenes here....” I wondered where it was until 2 seconds later a massive push from behind and it became obvious!
By all accounts those cnts were jumping in the Ellerslie and Paddocks as well as the Loft and slapping people regardless of age/sex. |  | | |
| Football Violence. on 21:10 - Nov 17 with 4177 views | hantssi |
It’s amazing how many stories here feature Chelsea!
Is it just that we hate them so remember it more or are they just that bad?
I remember Stamford Bridge used to be a good recruiting ground for the NF/BNP. | | | |
| Football Violence. on 21:35 - Nov 17 with 4117 views | qprxtc |
The worst football violence o ever encountered was because I thought that QPR night one day win some load of shit in my lifetime. That caused me an unreasonable amount of crap.
Spent too much time and emotion on something that has no intrinsic value on our lives beyond its bonding. Violence? Why do we expect QPR to be better than our lives.
That’s Chelsea fans. Basically they want the violence. It’s what they live for.
I hated Rangers being over run down the years. But now, now I’m proud. That QPR stands more than that. The f ucking Kings Road Shite. Fu ck EVERYTHING THEY STAND FOR.
Alcohol and ignorance. Killers. [Post edited 17 Nov 2020 21:36]
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| Football Violence. on 21:41 - Nov 17 with 4107 views | ted_hendrix |
Very early 1970's evening game at the Old Manor ground, left the building site and drove straight to the game but it was late and they wouldn't let me buy a ticket in the pits that was the away end but I managed to get in the home end stood at the back behind the goal wearing me donkey jacket with me blue and white scarf in me pocket and me gob firmly shut.
Crap game tbh, in the dying seconds we got a corner right in front of me lo and behold Rodneeee buried a header in the back of the net, I let rip 'get f ucking in' and stuck two clenched fists in the air mistakenly one of my fists had hold of my blue and white scarf.
Got chased out of the ground and I ran like f uck, right across the road and down through that housing estate, I stopped to look behind me and there were about 4 or 5 of them still running after me, I took off again turning left then right not having a clue where the bollox I was , eventually I slowed down and thankfully they'd given up.
It honestly took me about an hour to find me car all the time looking up and down the road and over me shoulder.
Never mind these so called bullshitting hero's and their 'these colours don't run' nonsense.
Mine did that night.
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| Football Violence. on 22:21 - Nov 17 with 4020 views | stowmarketrange |
| Football Violence. on 21:41 - Nov 17 by ted_hendrix |
Very early 1970's evening game at the Old Manor ground, left the building site and drove straight to the game but it was late and they wouldn't let me buy a ticket in the pits that was the away end but I managed to get in the home end stood at the back behind the goal wearing me donkey jacket with me blue and white scarf in me pocket and me gob firmly shut.
Crap game tbh, in the dying seconds we got a corner right in front of me lo and behold Rodneeee buried a header in the back of the net, I let rip 'get f ucking in' and stuck two clenched fists in the air mistakenly one of my fists had hold of my blue and white scarf.
Got chased out of the ground and I ran like f uck, right across the road and down through that housing estate, I stopped to look behind me and there were about 4 or 5 of them still running after me, I took off again turning left then right not having a clue where the bollox I was , eventually I slowed down and thankfully they'd given up.
It honestly took me about an hour to find me car all the time looking up and down the road and over me shoulder.
Never mind these so called bullshitting hero's and their 'these colours don't run' nonsense.
Mine did that night.
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The first time I went to the old den I drove there,parked up and went into the ground.We lost 3-2 and they went top of the league.Of course I realised I’d parked the other side of the police cordon,and there was no way that they’d allow me to walk through it,even if I’d wanted to.I therefore had to walk right round the ground to reach my car.As there were still a few thugs milling around the few remaining cars still parked,I went around again.I only lived in Mitcham at the time so I cycled there the following season ,and chained my bike to one of the garage gates that were everywhere at their old ground.No problem getting straight away that year.
I’ve been close to fights and trouble at football,but I’ve always managed to avoid getting involved in any,so far. | | | |
| Football Violence. on 22:27 - Nov 17 with 4008 views | distortR |
| Football Violence. on 20:49 - Nov 17 by soops |
When we beat Chelsea 3-1 in 1987 after the game we were walking down the steps at the back of the Loft. Someone had a radio playing and Peter Jones was saying “disgraceful scenes here....” I wondered where it was until 2 seconds later a massive push from behind and it became obvious!
By all accounts those cnts were jumping in the Ellerslie and Paddocks as well as the Loft and slapping people regardless of age/sex. |
yeah, i was in the loft with Joe Young and a few others. Joe shouting "Don't run", everyone around us agreeing, and then suddenly there's about 5 of us left facing scores of them!
TBH I wanted to leg it, but Joe never would and you stand by your mates.................
Anyway, they didn't touch us - they are pack animals, happy to chase anything running.
back to Moriarty's in Baker Street, a little group of them saw a couple of us and came over and then got run off when they realised it was even numbers. Absolute bullying tossers.
i will add, we used to drink with the lads who wrote the Chelsea Independent and they were top blokes. | | | |
| Football Violence. on 22:31 - Nov 17 with 3999 views | joe90 |
Some really interesting stories and insight into how football use to be.
Sounds like it use to be a lot easier to just turn up and get tickets on the door and in some ways a bit more fun. It also sounds like it was a LOT rougher.
I've heard a bit about 'c-mob' and seen a video of Luton fans taking a beating at Kings Cross, but did we actually have an active firm or has it been exaggerated over time or embellished? |  | | |
| Football Violence. on 22:48 - Nov 17 with 3969 views | ManinBlack |
Sydney R is correct the Millwall firm were the bushwhackers. I went to Millwall v Leeds in November 1985 and again in November 1987. Both games ended 3-1 to Millwall. One year we were in the Millwall end and the other time we were in the Leeds end as my mate supported Leeds. I recall at the end of the 1985 game Millwall fans storming the pitch at the end chucking stuff into the Leeds end and 17 Wall were nicked. I reckon this was the same year that they ran riot on the pitch at Luton.
The 1987 game wasn't quite the same violence levels as it was an early kick off so we then headed to Tottenham for the 1-1 with QPR.
I think 1987 was the year we played the two Cup games with Millwall and I went to both. It was also the last time I went to Millwall. The natives were not happy with the way we killed the game passing it around the back all game. It was an uncomfortable watch and atmosphere on the terraces.
I did go to that 2-2 with Leeds in 1973 as a kid but we sat in the main stand with the Leeds fans so I was not aware of any problems. I do recall my dad dragging me out of the station buffet after the game when rival fans clashed on the platform outside.
On a happier note Spain looked excellent beating Germany 6-0 tonight. [Post edited 17 Nov 2020 22:50]
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| Football Violence. on 23:00 - Nov 17 with 3941 views | stowmarketrange |
| Football Violence. on 22:31 - Nov 17 by joe90 |
Some really interesting stories and insight into how football use to be.
Sounds like it use to be a lot easier to just turn up and get tickets on the door and in some ways a bit more fun. It also sounds like it was a LOT rougher.
I've heard a bit about 'c-mob' and seen a video of Luton fans taking a beating at Kings Cross, but did we actually have an active firm or has it been exaggerated over time or embellished? |
There were no tickets on sale for the terraces.You just paid your money and walked in.It was easy for opposition fans to get into the loft,and most big London teams did it every time we played them.You didn’t normally know they were there until around ko time and it was too late for the police to move anyone around.
The first time I went to West Ham in October 1976 I stood in the chicken run by mistake.I’d never been there before and it looked like a safe place to stand.It probably was compared to any of the other terraces. | | | |
| Football Violence. on 23:01 - Nov 17 with 3942 views | ted_hendrix |
| Football Violence. on 22:31 - Nov 17 by joe90 |
Some really interesting stories and insight into how football use to be.
Sounds like it use to be a lot easier to just turn up and get tickets on the door and in some ways a bit more fun. It also sounds like it was a LOT rougher.
I've heard a bit about 'c-mob' and seen a video of Luton fans taking a beating at Kings Cross, but did we actually have an active firm or has it been exaggerated over time or embellished? |
You'll always get a lot of exaggeration and people talking bolox.
I made the very bad mistake of getting into trouble meself not on a regular basis but when I look back I'd be the first to admit I was a pratt, I got meself nicked by the police at one away ground and put on their data base, this was me at the time with a job mortgage and kids to bring up WTF was I thinking of?
It was pathetic then and even more so now when I think about it.
Just something I went through regrettably.
Suppose we all do things we regret. | |
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| Football Violence. on 23:11 - Nov 17 with 3921 views | qprxtc |
Football : it violently ok
Violence; it’s for kings road shite fans.
Mix it up. | | | |
| Football Violence. on 23:12 - Nov 17 with 3920 views | itsbiga |
Late 70's when we played Carshalton Youth away.
Entire team jumped us after the match, we had a couple of handy lads but they basically gave us a decent slap lol.
Anyone here play for them in the late 70's? [Post edited 17 Nov 2020 23:15]
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| Football Violence. on 23:13 - Nov 17 with 3922 views | qpr_1968 |
| Football Violence. on 23:01 - Nov 17 by ted_hendrix |
You'll always get a lot of exaggeration and people talking bolox.
I made the very bad mistake of getting into trouble meself not on a regular basis but when I look back I'd be the first to admit I was a pratt, I got meself nicked by the police at one away ground and put on their data base, this was me at the time with a job mortgage and kids to bring up WTF was I thinking of?
It was pathetic then and even more so now when I think about it.
Just something I went through regrettably.
Suppose we all do things we regret. |
in the 70's , especially away games, if you went with a group of mates you were involved end of. you were a target by the home fans and often ran the gaunlet at the troublesome grounds.
obviously if you were on your own and had no colours you had a chance, until someone up north asked the time, and that went on a lot.
but even on me own i got a clump by a chelsea fan at a 28 bus stop, a group of them were sending young kids to ask who you were, and naively i said i was qpr, he turned round to the older lot who were standing in a shop doorway, they came over and wallop, a punch in the mouth and guts.....that was at stamford bridge in 1974. i'd lost me mates and ended up in north end road, they went up lillee road.....part and parcel of going away. | |
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| Football Violence. on 23:15 - Nov 17 with 3913 views | qprxtc |
look , i am a very long standing Rangers fan.
I could care less about who ran who. Isn’t that why we support Rangers? | | | |
| Football Violence. on 23:22 - Nov 17 with 3896 views | timcocking |
Those were the days. Devolution in full flow.
Probably the worst thing i ever saw was David Seaman's fruit pastilles coloured goal keeping shirt, although i'm not sure if it should be categorised as violence per se. |  | | |
| Football Violence. on 23:26 - Nov 17 with 3897 views | flynnbo |
| Football Violence. on 23:12 - Nov 17 by itsbiga |
Late 70's when we played Carshalton Youth away.
Entire team jumped us after the match, we had a couple of handy lads but they basically gave us a decent slap lol.
Anyone here play for them in the late 70's? [Post edited 17 Nov 2020 23:15]
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Played with Jon Warden in the late 70s for a team called Southcroft and he was a very good striker and a lovely guy. He went on to play for Carshalton, We would have been around 16/17 at the time. [Post edited 17 Nov 2020 23:39]
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| Football Violence. on 01:17 - Nov 18 with 3835 views | Boston |
| Football Violence. on 15:37 - Nov 17 by 2Thomas2Bowles |
Can't clearly remember which of these game it was
06 Oct 1973 Queens Park Rangers v Chelsea D 1-1 League Division One
15 Jan 1974 Queens Park Rangers v Chelsea W 1-0 FA Cup
But think it was the cup game
I'm pretty sure this was when the hatred of the scum really started
Loads of trouble before the game in the streets around LR . in the loft and all-round the ground
I've seen a few bad things, was at that Luton/Millwall game but to me, that game was the worst.
Like wild crazy neanderthals terrorising kids and woman, smashing car windows and to the homes. |
If one of those was an evening fixture, then yes, lot of trouble. Standing at the top of the Loft’s main stairs just before kick off when some bloke in a black leather coat about six feet from me goes “c’mon you blues”. Fellah beside me (who I did not know), enquires as to which blues he would be talking about...all off. Anyway, nickings and ejections galore, me included. [Post edited 18 Nov 2020 1:22]
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| Football Violence. on 01:30 - Nov 18 with 3823 views | DannyPaddox |
nickers and erections galore you say? |  | | |
| Football Violence. on 01:50 - Nov 18 with 3815 views | Boston |
| Football Violence. on 01:30 - Nov 18 by DannyPaddox |
nickers and erections galore you say? |
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| Football Violence. on 02:11 - Nov 18 with 3803 views | SydneyRs |
| Football Violence. on 20:49 - Nov 17 by soops |
When we beat Chelsea 3-1 in 1987 after the game we were walking down the steps at the back of the Loft. Someone had a radio playing and Peter Jones was saying “disgraceful scenes here....” I wondered where it was until 2 seconds later a massive push from behind and it became obvious!
By all accounts those cnts were jumping in the Ellerslie and Paddocks as well as the Loft and slapping people regardless of age/sex. |
Was at this one too. Although I was in the Loft I had no idea this happened until after I got home. Was up the back where the best atmosphere always was and therefore one of the first out of the ground and didn't even know Chelsea had come down to that end.
Another notable game for fighting was the Palace FA cup quarter final in 82 when Clive Allen taunted the away end after scoring the winner. They had been giving him stick all game while led to him giving it back after scoring. They didn't take it well!
In the early 80s when I started going regularly there was often some sort of incident, particularly after goals were scored. Usually it wasn't hard to keep away from/out of it though. | | | |
| Football Violence. on 02:43 - Nov 18 with 3800 views | DavieQPR |
| Football Violence. on 20:49 - Nov 17 by soops |
When we beat Chelsea 3-1 in 1987 after the game we were walking down the steps at the back of the Loft. Someone had a radio playing and Peter Jones was saying “disgraceful scenes here....” I wondered where it was until 2 seconds later a massive push from behind and it became obvious!
By all accounts those cnts were jumping in the Ellerslie and Paddocks as well as the Loft and slapping people regardless of age/sex. |
Also remember Chelsea mobs running riot in the Shepherds Bush Market back in the early 60's. |  | | |
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