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Would you take Andre Ayew back? 19:50 - Jul 20 with 9080 viewsjedmo_jack

With West Ham looking like signing Arnautovic and Hernandez, surely no room at the inn for Andre?

Obviously knows the club and would link up with his brother, so seems like an easy transition for him while being a valuable asset to the club I believe, especially if Siggy goes.

Would you take back the former jack favourite? Miss his little chant...
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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 22:10 - Jul 20 with 1969 viewshobo

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 21:36 - Jul 20 by nierika

Would only come back to setup another move to London, F him.


So what? Buy for £14m, sell next summer for £28m
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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 22:12 - Jul 20 with 1965 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 21:36 - Jul 20 by nierika

Would only come back to setup another move to London, F him.


So then we use him for a year, and then sell him at enough profit to more than cover his wages while he was here.

Worked out pretty well last time, and unlike Bony, there's really no indication that his skills have slipped at all.

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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 22:17 - Jul 20 with 1950 viewsTNT

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 22:00 - Jul 20 by BrynCartwright

I want Tommy Hutchison back now!


I want Derek Parlane back now!

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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 23:55 - Jul 20 with 1899 viewsjasper_T

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 21:03 - Jul 20 by Tummer_from_Texas

Well, most everyone says he was all wrong for us and didn't fit in, yet he was our leading scorer (12 goals) and managed to play multiple positions, including striker. He even earned a PL Player of the Month award, which only one other Swans player has done (Siggy in March 2012).

Plus he did a lot more than score goals directly. His constant hustle earned us at least two penalties, and led to several other goals.

So either he was a great player or he benefited from a good system, one or the other.
[Post edited 20 Jul 2017 21:06]


The period during which he scored almost all of his goals our overall play and results were absolute shite, and he contributed to that as much as the scoresheet.

He only scored a couple during the run that saved our season.
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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 03:22 - Jul 21 with 1840 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 23:55 - Jul 20 by jasper_T

The period during which he scored almost all of his goals our overall play and results were absolute shite, and he contributed to that as much as the scoresheet.

He only scored a couple during the run that saved our season.


Huh, think so? OK, let's test that theory by taking a quick look back at 2015/2016...

August - Swans record 2W-2D-0L (8 points)
Ayew scored 3 goals: wins over Man U (2-1) and Newcastle (2-0), draw @ Chelsea.

Sept - Swans record 0W-1D-2L (1 pt)
Ayew scored no goals. In fact Swansea had only one goal that month: a meaningless Sigurdsson penalty in a 2 goal loss at Southampton.

Oct - Swans record 1W-1D-2L (4 pts)
Ayew scored 2 goals: draw vs Tottenham and the late winner (2-1) @ Villa.

Nov - Swans record 0W-1D-2L (1 pt)
Ayew scored 1 goal, which sparked a 2 goal comeback to draw vs Bournemouth.

Dec - Swans record 1W-2D-2L (5 pts)
No goals for Ayew.

Jan - Swans record 2W-0D-2L (6 pts)
2 goals for Ayew: 1 in the ref-induced loss to Sunderland (the only time, ever, Ayew would score a goal in a loss) and the 2-1 win @ Everton. Also in that Everton contest, Andre made one of the most memorable, intelligent "hustle" plays of the season when his quick thinking forced a penalty by Everton goalkeeper Tim Howard. So Ayew was really responsible for both goals in that critical victory.

Feb - Swans record 0W-2D-2L (2 pts)
Ayew had no goals.

Mar - Swans record 3W-0D-1L (9 pts)
Ayew had no goals because he was injured March 5 and missed the rest of the month.

Apr - Swans record 1W-1D-2L (4 pts)
Again no Ayew goals

May - Swans record 2W-1D-0L (7 pts)
Ayew finishes very strong with 4 goals in 3 games: a brace in a win vs Liverpool (3-1), a goal in the win @WHU (4-1), and the goal in our season-ending draw vs Man City.

Worth noting, given the fact we are in serious danger of losing Siggy: that final goal was a free kick goal, the only one of those scored by someone OTHER than Siggy in who knows how long?

Also worth noting: 8 of his 12 goals came against Chelsea, ManU, Man City, Liverpool (2), Everton, Tottenham, and West Ham. And we got results in ALL of those games, so Ayew was a big reason that we had a decent record against the big boys.

Yes, he missed most of March due to injury, and during that time the Swans had 2 big home wins against bad opponents we shouldn't have needed him for anyway (Norwich and Villa).

But the Swans record when Ayew scored his goals was 6 wins, 4 draws, and only 1 loss (22 points). And we lost to the referee more than we did our crappy opponent (Sunderland) that day. Subtract Ayew's goals and the penalty he drew on Howard, our record in those same 11 games falls to 2 wins, 3 draws, and 6 losses (9 points).

Conversely, our record when Andre DIDN'T score was 6 wins, 7 draws, and 14 losses.

So in summary, Andre was HUGE in 2015/2016. Without him, we are playing in the Championship now. I think you can say that as much about him as you can about Llorente last season, or Sigurdsson the last 2 seasons.
[Post edited 21 Jul 2017 3:42]

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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 05:19 - Jul 21 with 1808 viewsDr_Winston

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 03:22 - Jul 21 by Tummer_from_Texas

Huh, think so? OK, let's test that theory by taking a quick look back at 2015/2016...

August - Swans record 2W-2D-0L (8 points)
Ayew scored 3 goals: wins over Man U (2-1) and Newcastle (2-0), draw @ Chelsea.

Sept - Swans record 0W-1D-2L (1 pt)
Ayew scored no goals. In fact Swansea had only one goal that month: a meaningless Sigurdsson penalty in a 2 goal loss at Southampton.

Oct - Swans record 1W-1D-2L (4 pts)
Ayew scored 2 goals: draw vs Tottenham and the late winner (2-1) @ Villa.

Nov - Swans record 0W-1D-2L (1 pt)
Ayew scored 1 goal, which sparked a 2 goal comeback to draw vs Bournemouth.

Dec - Swans record 1W-2D-2L (5 pts)
No goals for Ayew.

Jan - Swans record 2W-0D-2L (6 pts)
2 goals for Ayew: 1 in the ref-induced loss to Sunderland (the only time, ever, Ayew would score a goal in a loss) and the 2-1 win @ Everton. Also in that Everton contest, Andre made one of the most memorable, intelligent "hustle" plays of the season when his quick thinking forced a penalty by Everton goalkeeper Tim Howard. So Ayew was really responsible for both goals in that critical victory.

Feb - Swans record 0W-2D-2L (2 pts)
Ayew had no goals.

Mar - Swans record 3W-0D-1L (9 pts)
Ayew had no goals because he was injured March 5 and missed the rest of the month.

Apr - Swans record 1W-1D-2L (4 pts)
Again no Ayew goals

May - Swans record 2W-1D-0L (7 pts)
Ayew finishes very strong with 4 goals in 3 games: a brace in a win vs Liverpool (3-1), a goal in the win @WHU (4-1), and the goal in our season-ending draw vs Man City.

Worth noting, given the fact we are in serious danger of losing Siggy: that final goal was a free kick goal, the only one of those scored by someone OTHER than Siggy in who knows how long?

Also worth noting: 8 of his 12 goals came against Chelsea, ManU, Man City, Liverpool (2), Everton, Tottenham, and West Ham. And we got results in ALL of those games, so Ayew was a big reason that we had a decent record against the big boys.

Yes, he missed most of March due to injury, and during that time the Swans had 2 big home wins against bad opponents we shouldn't have needed him for anyway (Norwich and Villa).

But the Swans record when Ayew scored his goals was 6 wins, 4 draws, and only 1 loss (22 points). And we lost to the referee more than we did our crappy opponent (Sunderland) that day. Subtract Ayew's goals and the penalty he drew on Howard, our record in those same 11 games falls to 2 wins, 3 draws, and 6 losses (9 points).

Conversely, our record when Andre DIDN'T score was 6 wins, 7 draws, and 14 losses.

So in summary, Andre was HUGE in 2015/2016. Without him, we are playing in the Championship now. I think you can say that as much about him as you can about Llorente last season, or Sigurdsson the last 2 seasons.
[Post edited 21 Jul 2017 3:42]


If you're going to refute an argument, do it in style.

You're right though. The idea that Ayew was responsible for our poor form that season was nonsense then, and even more so now. There's only one reason we were shite that season and it's currently in charge of Middlesbrough.

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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 07:35 - Jul 21 with 1716 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Would be a useful squad player for £4m to £5m.

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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 07:42 - Jul 21 with 1706 viewsWhiterockin

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 07:35 - Jul 21 by felixstowe_jack

Would be a useful squad player for £4m to £5m.


To move forward we no longer need squad players, we need players who are pushing for a starting place.
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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 07:59 - Jul 21 with 1692 viewsfelixstowe_jack

He would be an improvement on Dyer, Routs, Montero.

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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 08:17 - Jul 21 with 1682 viewsItchySphincter

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 03:22 - Jul 21 by Tummer_from_Texas

Huh, think so? OK, let's test that theory by taking a quick look back at 2015/2016...

August - Swans record 2W-2D-0L (8 points)
Ayew scored 3 goals: wins over Man U (2-1) and Newcastle (2-0), draw @ Chelsea.

Sept - Swans record 0W-1D-2L (1 pt)
Ayew scored no goals. In fact Swansea had only one goal that month: a meaningless Sigurdsson penalty in a 2 goal loss at Southampton.

Oct - Swans record 1W-1D-2L (4 pts)
Ayew scored 2 goals: draw vs Tottenham and the late winner (2-1) @ Villa.

Nov - Swans record 0W-1D-2L (1 pt)
Ayew scored 1 goal, which sparked a 2 goal comeback to draw vs Bournemouth.

Dec - Swans record 1W-2D-2L (5 pts)
No goals for Ayew.

Jan - Swans record 2W-0D-2L (6 pts)
2 goals for Ayew: 1 in the ref-induced loss to Sunderland (the only time, ever, Ayew would score a goal in a loss) and the 2-1 win @ Everton. Also in that Everton contest, Andre made one of the most memorable, intelligent "hustle" plays of the season when his quick thinking forced a penalty by Everton goalkeeper Tim Howard. So Ayew was really responsible for both goals in that critical victory.

Feb - Swans record 0W-2D-2L (2 pts)
Ayew had no goals.

Mar - Swans record 3W-0D-1L (9 pts)
Ayew had no goals because he was injured March 5 and missed the rest of the month.

Apr - Swans record 1W-1D-2L (4 pts)
Again no Ayew goals

May - Swans record 2W-1D-0L (7 pts)
Ayew finishes very strong with 4 goals in 3 games: a brace in a win vs Liverpool (3-1), a goal in the win @WHU (4-1), and the goal in our season-ending draw vs Man City.

Worth noting, given the fact we are in serious danger of losing Siggy: that final goal was a free kick goal, the only one of those scored by someone OTHER than Siggy in who knows how long?

Also worth noting: 8 of his 12 goals came against Chelsea, ManU, Man City, Liverpool (2), Everton, Tottenham, and West Ham. And we got results in ALL of those games, so Ayew was a big reason that we had a decent record against the big boys.

Yes, he missed most of March due to injury, and during that time the Swans had 2 big home wins against bad opponents we shouldn't have needed him for anyway (Norwich and Villa).

But the Swans record when Ayew scored his goals was 6 wins, 4 draws, and only 1 loss (22 points). And we lost to the referee more than we did our crappy opponent (Sunderland) that day. Subtract Ayew's goals and the penalty he drew on Howard, our record in those same 11 games falls to 2 wins, 3 draws, and 6 losses (9 points).

Conversely, our record when Andre DIDN'T score was 6 wins, 7 draws, and 14 losses.

So in summary, Andre was HUGE in 2015/2016. Without him, we are playing in the Championship now. I think you can say that as much about him as you can about Llorente last season, or Sigurdsson the last 2 seasons.
[Post edited 21 Jul 2017 3:42]


An excellent analysis but it doesn't change the fact that we we relatively poor all around, due to a rookie manager attempting to reinvent the wheel. We were horrible to watch and it's continued to this day because we had unsuitable players for the way we play and Ayew was one of them. Heartbreaking.

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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 08:37 - Jul 21 with 1665 viewsdameedna

Match winner on a bad day.
Be surprised if west ham entertain bids.
Id keep him if i was west ham.
Proven performer.
Hopefully he will link up with us in the future.
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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 09:30 - Jul 21 with 1645 viewsDewi1jack

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 07:59 - Jul 21 by felixstowe_jack

He would be an improvement on Dyer, Routs, Montero.


A traffic cone would be an improvement on Dyer.
IMHO!

A. Ayew back here would be pushing for a starting place and eager for a move for another big signing on fee, so willing to put himself on show.
Definitely makes the squad stronger, but the price has to be right for the club, certainly not what Wet Spam paid!
Reckon there'd be more profit to be made with Ayew 2 in the future, providing we could get for under £15 million.
[Post edited 21 Jul 2017 9:35]

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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 09:38 - Jul 21 with 1627 viewsMarinaJack

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 09:30 - Jul 21 by Dewi1jack

A traffic cone would be an improvement on Dyer.
IMHO!

A. Ayew back here would be pushing for a starting place and eager for a move for another big signing on fee, so willing to put himself on show.
Definitely makes the squad stronger, but the price has to be right for the club, certainly not what Wet Spam paid!
Reckon there'd be more profit to be made with Ayew 2 in the future, providing we could get for under £15 million.
[Post edited 21 Jul 2017 9:35]


This guy nailed it ,Is ayew better than we have at the club.

Clearly he is so if we can we should bring him back (if possible)
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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 11:19 - Jul 21 with 1581 viewsLoyal

Is Andy Melville available ?

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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 12:27 - Jul 21 with 1544 viewsDwightYorkeSuperstar

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 21:03 - Jul 20 by Tummer_from_Texas

Well, most everyone says he was all wrong for us and didn't fit in, yet he was our leading scorer (12 goals) and managed to play multiple positions, including striker. He even earned a PL Player of the Month award, which only one other Swans player has done (Siggy in March 2012).

Plus he did a lot more than score goals directly. His constant hustle earned us at least two penalties, and led to several other goals.

So either he was a great player or he benefited from a good system, one or the other.
[Post edited 20 Jul 2017 21:06]


He was our leading goalscorer as he, whether under instruction to or not, would constantly encroach in other players positions, hampering our attacks. Gylfi was even more irrelevant most games from open play as Ayew would be a couple of yards form him most of the time.

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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 12:34 - Jul 21 with 1526 viewsMarinaJack

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 12:27 - Jul 21 by DwightYorkeSuperstar

He was our leading goalscorer as he, whether under instruction to or not, would constantly encroach in other players positions, hampering our attacks. Gylfi was even more irrelevant most games from open play as Ayew would be a couple of yards form him most of the time.


seeing as Gylfi appears to be off , that won't be a problem this year but scoring goals will be

Unless your expecting our goal a phobic wide players to start banging them in for fun this season
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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 12:36 - Jul 21 with 1527 viewsMrSwerve

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 21:12 - Jul 20 by Al_Bundy

What is this total obsession with wanting ex players back?


What's with the total obsession of NOT wanting players back?

Not that I think that we should bring A.Ayew back, but people seem very reluctant to 'go back' even if it would clearly improve the team.

See the abuse that Joey Allen got when it was touted that he may move back here...and would clearly improve the squad. People got pelters for suggesting that he would be a good signing.

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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 18:31 - Jul 21 with 1455 viewsYossarian

Taking him back is a pie dream. He didn't like the City, he avoided all the community obligations and told a number of people that he'd made a huge mistake when he'd only been here a few weeks. However, in fairness to him, his attitude on the pitch was always committed and professional a he did more than most to ensure we stayed up last year! He tried his best for the team till the end, and I for one didn't begrudge him the chance to earn big money at West Ham and give us a windfall into the bargain. He was totally unsuited to us and he knew it- not his fault but GM's and the Director of Football. The Swansea Way? They did more than anything to destroy what they had previously been selling to anyone prepared to listen to them!

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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 18:40 - Jul 21 with 1443 viewsLeonWasGod

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 20:02 - Jul 20 by DwightYorkeSuperstar

Few players personify our disastrous approach to transfers over the recent years, consisting of buying players based off reputation/stats and shoehorning them into our side despite us not having a) room to play them or b) a playing style suited to the player, more than Andre Ayew.


Whilst true, (a) he carried us up top for large parts of the season, and not just goals but doing all the clever stuff, and (b) few players have generated profits for us more than Ayew.

A team full of Ayews would be a disaster, but having one mercenary who contributes during the season and then we offload at a huge profit isn't so bad.

Wouldn't want him back though.
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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 19:06 - Jul 21 with 1413 viewsDazzaJack

Never really fitted into the formations we played, however, proved himself as a goal scorer in the permier league, which can be hard to come by, and one of the most technically gifted players i've seen in a Swans shirt for ball control, cool head under pressure. Very good footballer, his brother also looks to possess similar traits on the ball. Probably on crazy high wages, and still doesn't really fit our formation.
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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 19:15 - Jul 21 with 1405 viewsjasper_T

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 18:40 - Jul 21 by LeonWasGod

Whilst true, (a) he carried us up top for large parts of the season, and not just goals but doing all the clever stuff, and (b) few players have generated profits for us more than Ayew.

A team full of Ayews would be a disaster, but having one mercenary who contributes during the season and then we offload at a huge profit isn't so bad.

Wouldn't want him back though.


Andre Ayew and his agent made more of a profit than Swansea City. The fees they raked in coming and going were obscene.
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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 19:24 - Jul 21 with 1399 viewsvetchonian

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 19:15 - Jul 21 by jasper_T

Andre Ayew and his agent made more of a profit than Swansea City. The fees they raked in coming and going were obscene.


Based on his record last season no

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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 18:34 - Jul 22 with 1297 viewsDavillin

No.

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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 18:39 - Jul 22 with 1279 viewsjack247

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 19:06 - Jul 21 by DazzaJack

Never really fitted into the formations we played, however, proved himself as a goal scorer in the permier league, which can be hard to come by, and one of the most technically gifted players i've seen in a Swans shirt for ball control, cool head under pressure. Very good footballer, his brother also looks to possess similar traits on the ball. Probably on crazy high wages, and still doesn't really fit our formation.


He didn't really fit the formation under Monk. Looked better under the more tactically astute Guidolin but still drifted too much. It wouldn't surprise me if Clement was able to accommodate him.

It's a non starter though and we don't always have to chase our ex players.
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Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 18:40 - Jul 22 with 1274 viewsDavillin

Would you take Andre Ayew back? on 23:55 - Jul 20 by jasper_T

The period during which he scored almost all of his goals our overall play and results were absolute shite, and he contributed to that as much as the scoresheet.

He only scored a couple during the run that saved our season.


There should be a vote for posts with 5 stars or 10 stars.

I do not intend to denigrate any posters or posts, but in all sports, there are players who can score, but who drag down the rest of the team to do it.

André. I called him "The flag to flag to flag player."

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