| 7 from 10 home games 08:19 - Dec 29 with 3577 views | barry_island |
Minimum we need to stay up (we'll be lucky to pick up another 3 points on the road).
As we have Arsenal, Spurs and Leicester (only us and Man City have failed to suss them out) here, we have to win all of the others.
Lose / draw on Saturday and WE ARE DOWN. [Post edited 29 Dec 2016 8:23]
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| 7 from 10 home games on 08:32 - Dec 29 with 3534 views | Clinton |
Huge ask regardless of Bournemouth result. We need to show top 7 or 8 form from here on on to escape. |  |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 08:32 - Dec 29 with 3531 views | raynor94 |
We have won three from eighteen so far, kind of puts seven from ten in perspective, it ain't going to happen |  |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 08:35 - Dec 29 with 3523 views | E20Jack |
That's not true though is it. Unless the FA have banned away games and I am yet to hear.
We need 8 more wins from the next 20. Win half our home games and manage 3 wins away and we will give ourselves a fighting chance. If we are already surrendering 3 points away at places like Palace, Hull, Bournemouth, Watford, Sunderland and West Ham then we may as well give up now. |  |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 08:46 - Dec 29 with 3477 views | barry_island |
| 7 from 10 home games on 08:35 - Dec 29 by E20Jack |
That's not true though is it. Unless the FA have banned away games and I am yet to hear.
We need 8 more wins from the next 20. Win half our home games and manage 3 wins away and we will give ourselves a fighting chance. If we are already surrendering 3 points away at places like Palace, Hull, Bournemouth, Watford, Sunderland and West Ham then we may as well give up now. |
The team and club has already surrendered.
Bob was the most obvious symptom, we know the real cause and it is not the fans.
I'm happy to be proven wrong on this, I don't think I will. | |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 08:46 - Dec 29 with 3476 views | Kilkennyjack |
| 7 from 10 home games on 08:35 - Dec 29 by E20Jack |
That's not true though is it. Unless the FA have banned away games and I am yet to hear.
We need 8 more wins from the next 20. Win half our home games and manage 3 wins away and we will give ourselves a fighting chance. If we are already surrendering 3 points away at places like Palace, Hull, Bournemouth, Watford, Sunderland and West Ham then we may as well give up now. |
I guess you could have added Boro and WBA to that list. Oh hang on - reality. Barry is not far off the truth. |  |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 09:11 - Dec 29 with 3377 views | E20Jack |
| 7 from 10 home games on 08:46 - Dec 29 by Kilkennyjack |
I guess you could have added Boro and WBA to that list. Oh hang on - reality. Barry is not far off the truth. |
Or the 1-0 win at Burnley funnily enough, because they have been already. There are 20 games left not 10 and the same amount of points are available in all of them. | |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 09:15 - Dec 29 with 3369 views | AngelRangelQS |
So the 10 home games are:-
Arsenal
Spurs
Leicester
WBA
Boro
Burnley
Bournemouth
Everton
Southampton
Stoke
If we were to have a reasonable record of winning 5, drawing 2 and losing 3 that still leaves us needing to pick up say 3 wins and 2 draws away from home.
We'd probably all be happy if we managed to get even a point from the away games at Chelsea, City, Liverpool and United, which leaves us with a lot to do against Watford, Palace, Hull, Sunderland, Bournemouth and West Ham.
Very, very tough - we probably need 20 points from our home matches to stand any real chance. |  | | |
| 7 from 10 home games on 09:30 - Dec 29 with 3319 views | Starsky |
To the OP... with respect, you're looking at this all wrong.
We're maybe a win and a draw away from once more pulling out of the bottom 3. Once that happens then we just have to better than the 3 teams below us.
If we lose or draw against Bournemouth, it certainly isn't all over.
What if all the teams around us lose as well?
Take each day as it comes. It's easier to digest. |  |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 09:40 - Dec 29 with 3275 views | E20Jack |
We have far more chance of beating Hull away than Arsenal or Tottenham at home. | |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 10:10 - Dec 29 with 3198 views | barry_island |
| 7 from 10 home games on 09:30 - Dec 29 by Starsky |
To the OP... with respect, you're looking at this all wrong.
We're maybe a win and a draw away from once more pulling out of the bottom 3. Once that happens then we just have to better than the 3 teams below us.
If we lose or draw against Bournemouth, it certainly isn't all over.
What if all the teams around us lose as well?
Take each day as it comes. It's easier to digest. |
Encouraging me to "just smile", I see.
Seriously I've already accepted our fate and whatever happens the rest of this season, no blame should be attributed to our real fans even if we end the season on 12 points. The damage was completed on a day in early August. | |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 10:13 - Dec 29 with 3192 views | 3swan |
It’s all guesswork but to get to the minimum normally required of 36 points we need
W7 D 3 L10
Now to have half a chance we need to start with 4 points from our next 2 games.
Now that would still be to the 36 point mark and looking over our shoulders
The 40 magical mark?
W8 D 4 L8
It is achievable if we get the right manager and 3 to 4 players of the right quality
Whichever way you look at it we need s a major upturn in results | | | |
| 7 from 10 home games on 10:14 - Dec 29 with 3184 views | 3swan |
| 7 from 10 home games on 09:30 - Dec 29 by Starsky |
To the OP... with respect, you're looking at this all wrong.
We're maybe a win and a draw away from once more pulling out of the bottom 3. Once that happens then we just have to better than the 3 teams below us.
If we lose or draw against Bournemouth, it certainly isn't all over.
What if all the teams around us lose as well?
Take each day as it comes. It's easier to digest. |
I agree it is easier to digest and reality says that is the only way of looking at it.
The one problem is we need a little run to catch the pack and them to have a downturn.
Bournemouth and Palace games shows we must start gaining on them | | | |
| 7 from 10 home games on 11:16 - Dec 29 with 3113 views | Starsky |
| 7 from 10 home games on 10:10 - Dec 29 by barry_island |
Encouraging me to "just smile", I see.
Seriously I've already accepted our fate and whatever happens the rest of this season, no blame should be attributed to our real fans even if we end the season on 12 points. The damage was completed on a day in early August. |
Barry ...
Did you already accept our fate the season we avoided going out of the league?
Have you not seen Sunderland (twice) and Leicester go on winning runs that pulled them to safety?
I'm not accepting any fate unless it's mathematically impossible. | |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 11:49 - Dec 29 with 3064 views | barry_island |
| 7 from 10 home games on 11:16 - Dec 29 by Starsky |
Barry ...
Did you already accept our fate the season we avoided going out of the league?
Have you not seen Sunderland (twice) and Leicester go on winning runs that pulled them to safety?
I'm not accepting any fate unless it's mathematically impossible. |
For a day or so after we lost to Exeter at home. The following week I knew I had to go to Rochdale and scream, shout and sing all game as I would never have forgiven myself if I had stayed at home and we'd lost, daft as that sounds.
Then I truly thought the whole club were together. Now we know the truth. | |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 11:51 - Dec 29 with 3061 views | Starsky |
| 7 from 10 home games on 11:49 - Dec 29 by barry_island |
For a day or so after we lost to Exeter at home. The following week I knew I had to go to Rochdale and scream, shout and sing all game as I would never have forgiven myself if I had stayed at home and we'd lost, daft as that sounds.
Then I truly thought the whole club were together. Now we know the truth. |
Fair point...
But the fans are the same. | |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 11:58 - Dec 29 with 3032 views | barry_island |
| 7 from 10 home games on 11:51 - Dec 29 by Starsky |
Fair point...
But the fans are the same. |
Agreed, and no blame should rest with the fans whatever happens during the rest of the season.
The season we avoided relegation £60+ million hadn't been removed from our limited budget either. | |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 12:01 - Dec 29 with 3019 views | LeonWasGod |
We need the results we had under Guidolin last season. That will see us safe by a few points. Normally you'd think that's no problem, but it's hell of an upturn from so far this season. |  | | |
| 7 from 10 home games on 12:03 - Dec 29 with 3016 views | Lord_Bony |
Bottom line...this squad is not good enough to stay up.
The only thing that can save is some good replacements in january...if that doesnt happen we re down. |  |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 16:08 - Dec 29 with 2894 views | Kilkennyjack |
| 7 from 10 home games on 12:03 - Dec 29 by Lord_Bony |
Bottom line...this squad is not good enough to stay up.
The only thing that can save is some good replacements in january...if that doesnt happen we re down. |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 16:12 - Dec 29 with 2881 views | Oldjack |
| 7 from 10 home games on 12:03 - Dec 29 by Lord_Bony |
Bottom line...this squad is not good enough to stay up.
The only thing that can save is some good replacements in january...if that doesnt happen we re down. |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 17:16 - Dec 29 with 2817 views | JesusJack |
Teams have stayed up with as few as 6 and 7 wins. The average over the last 10 years is 9, so a handful of wins could be enough if we can improve in the second half of the season.
It's too easy to fall into the assumption that because we've only picked up 3 wins in the first half of the season, we'll only pick up 3 in the second half. It doesn't work like that. If it did, the league table would finish exactly the same way as it stands now.
In this situation, too many people expect us to continue to be poor and not pick up wins but expect all of the teams around us (who are also poor) to change their fortunes and go on a run.
Let's have a little faith while there's still time left. | |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 17:18 - Dec 29 with 2812 views | monmouth |
Starsk is right. Forget points totals, we need to scrabble above three others. There are a lot of shit teams around and we are currently one of, possibly the, shittest. Things can change though, we're lucky there's not a bigger gap. It's not over until the fat lady sings, and she's not even decided on the tune yet.
We can do this. Not at all hopeful that we will, but we can. I too had given up after Exeter home. I'm not making the same mistake again. |  |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 19:45 - Dec 29 with 2713 views | Starsky |
| 7 from 10 home games on 17:18 - Dec 29 by monmouth |
Starsk is right. Forget points totals, we need to scrabble above three others. There are a lot of shit teams around and we are currently one of, possibly the, shittest. Things can change though, we're lucky there's not a bigger gap. It's not over until the fat lady sings, and she's not even decided on the tune yet.
We can do this. Not at all hopeful that we will, but we can. I too had given up after Exeter home. I'm not making the same mistake again. |
That's the spirit Monny... one game at a time | |
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| 7 from 10 home games on 19:56 - Dec 29 with 2688 views | jack2jack |
| 7 from 10 home games on 10:13 - Dec 29 by 3swan |
It’s all guesswork but to get to the minimum normally required of 36 points we need
W7 D 3 L10
Now to have half a chance we need to start with 4 points from our next 2 games.
Now that would still be to the 36 point mark and looking over our shoulders
The 40 magical mark?
W8 D 4 L8
It is achievable if we get the right manager and 3 to 4 players of the right quality
Whichever way you look at it we need s a major upturn in results |
We need to beat our existing max points per game average by some to achieve the 40 pnts mark,can be done but impossible on current form,we need to turn it around and fast,with a win on saturday COYS |  | | |
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