| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... 12:20 - Aug 12 with 16877 views | Catullus |
Is the current inactivity over these madmen because western governments are incompetent, too busy elsewhere, negligent or possibly because they are waiting until all or most of the jihadist lunatics are in one place so they can wipe them out with overwhelming force?
Think about it, they are attractting extremists from all over the world while we do apparently nothing. It makes no sense.
If it's not for that last reason, then the world is properly fecked! |  |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 11:52 - Aug 13 with 1290 views | perchrockjack |
well whether that s true or not are you suggesting they just leave them to get slaughtered.
They need help from someone.
if Muslim fundamentalists weren't so evil and obsessed they would be no need | |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 11:54 - Aug 13 with 1288 views | Lohengrin |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 11:48 - Aug 13 by controversial_jack |
The reason America has intervened is because the Area is seen as the hub of the Kurdish oil producing area. If the ISIS gain control oil prices will rise and Europe still get's a lot of it's oil from Iraq.There are huge reserves there too.
Why do people still think military interventions are done for humanitarian or altruistic reasons? |
Everybody gets that; it's why the Israelis are able to slaughter with such abandon, safe in the knowledge the major corporations aren't going to intervene to safeguard the price on Jaffa oranges. |  |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 12:20 - Aug 13 with 1269 views | controversial_jack |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 11:54 - Aug 13 by Lohengrin |
Everybody gets that; it's why the Israelis are able to slaughter with such abandon, safe in the knowledge the major corporations aren't going to intervene to safeguard the price on Jaffa oranges. |
The International bankers are mostly Jewish, and the media is also run by them.The bankers control the supply of money to the governments and therefore run the world. Among these bankers many could be ardent Zionists Therefore the state of Israel is untouchable
However, there are threats to Americas influence, notably BRICS and their plans to set up their own world banks in competition to the IMF etc.This would lessen the world's reliance on the US dollar - this is why we saw the condemnation of Russia in the Ukraine and attempts by the Us to destabilize the region.
The world is in turmoil at the moment and changes are coming, if for the good or bad only time will tell
In response to your reply, I don't believe everyone get's it | | | |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 12:26 - Aug 13 with 1262 views | perchrockjack |
Bankers ,diamond merchant, legal profession. All areas that excel in. Why is that?.
Might be the fact that world wide Jewish people have an ethic to study, get on and be self sufficient.
We have much to thank their brains in the field of science too.
This is clearly getting dirty and Im out of this topic | |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 13:00 - Aug 13 with 1248 views | controversial_jack |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 12:26 - Aug 13 by perchrockjack |
Bankers ,diamond merchant, legal profession. All areas that excel in. Why is that?.
Might be the fact that world wide Jewish people have an ethic to study, get on and be self sufficient.
We have much to thank their brains in the field of science too.
This is clearly getting dirty and Im out of this topic |
There is no disputing their ability to rise to the top, but they are many poor ones as well. Nobody is against the Jewish people, just the current form of extreme Zionism that is happening today | | | |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 13:17 - Aug 13 with 1243 views | perchrockjack |
SORRY but disagree .If you look and reflect on what some posts contain you might get my drift.
Jews were hounded by the Nazis for the same reasons mentioned on here.ie, positions of power,viz banking.
Jews were also craftsmen and artisans for the highest order. | |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 14:36 - Aug 13 with 1232 views | Lohengrin |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 13:17 - Aug 13 by perchrockjack |
SORRY but disagree .If you look and reflect on what some posts contain you might get my drift.
Jews were hounded by the Nazis for the same reasons mentioned on here.ie, positions of power,viz banking.
Jews were also craftsmen and artisans for the highest order. |
Faster than a speeding bullet! More powerful than a locomotive! Able to leap tall buildings at a single bound!
What a people. Oy, gevalt!   | |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 14:42 - Aug 13 with 1228 views | reddythered |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 12:20 - Aug 13 by controversial_jack |
The International bankers are mostly Jewish, and the media is also run by them.The bankers control the supply of money to the governments and therefore run the world. Among these bankers many could be ardent Zionists Therefore the state of Israel is untouchable
However, there are threats to Americas influence, notably BRICS and their plans to set up their own world banks in competition to the IMF etc.This would lessen the world's reliance on the US dollar - this is why we saw the condemnation of Russia in the Ukraine and attempts by the Us to destabilize the region.
The world is in turmoil at the moment and changes are coming, if for the good or bad only time will tell
In response to your reply, I don't believe everyone get's it |
Yes, yes, yes, we get it the Jews control the world.
Same argument NF, BNP et al make which the left has adopted remarkably well.
Jews own Al Jazeera probably. Couldn't possibly be owned by the government of Qatar, bankrollers of Hamas, ISIS et al... | |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 14:54 - Aug 13 with 1224 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
These poor people need help & it's up to the international communities to step it up .
Sadly Military action is the only answer to this. |  |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 14:55 - Aug 13 with 1220 views | perchrockjack |
on the money Tom. We agree and that s coolness itself.
Time out | |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 15:50 - Aug 13 with 1203 views | controversial_jack |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 14:42 - Aug 13 by reddythered |
Yes, yes, yes, we get it the Jews control the world.
Same argument NF, BNP et al make which the left has adopted remarkably well.
Jews own Al Jazeera probably. Couldn't possibly be owned by the government of Qatar, bankrollers of Hamas, ISIS et al... |
What do you expect me to say, that they don't and it's all a big lie? | | | |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 18:34 - Aug 13 with 1175 views | exiledclaseboy |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 14:54 - Aug 13 by oh_tommy_tommy |
These poor people need help & it's up to the international communities to step it up .
Sadly Military action is the only answer to this. |
I agree. We were quick enough to bungle our way around Iraq in an aggressive, illegal invasion (which more or less everyone on here supported by the way) yet now that there's a genuine humanitarian reason to do so plus a genuine enemy to fight, everyone's wringing their hands.
The extent to which what's happening now in Iraq is entirely of "our" own making cannot be underestimated. |  |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 19:41 - Aug 13 with 1161 views | reddythered |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 15:50 - Aug 13 by controversial_jack |
What do you expect me to say, that they don't and it's all a big lie? |
Yes, yes, yes, Jews are behind the Illuminati, Bilderburg group and no doubt stole Sooty and Sweep away from Matthew Corbett.
I presume the ethnicity of every media proprietor and banker around the world to back up such an assertion? Doesn't do the case any good to repeat stereotypical anti-semitic tropes. | |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 19:44 - Aug 13 with 1158 views | exiledclaseboy |
Perch was right. There are jew haters on these threads. Ironically the main one is one of Perch's favourite posters. But it's totally unfair, not to mention incorrect, to label all who oppose Israel's actions as such. | |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 19:53 - Aug 13 with 1152 views | reddythered |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 19:44 - Aug 13 by exiledclaseboy |
Perch was right. There are jew haters on these threads. Ironically the main one is one of Perch's favourite posters. But it's totally unfair, not to mention incorrect, to label all who oppose Israel's actions as such. |
Agree with you. It's perfectly fine to be opposed to Israel's actions.
When people start with the tired old "Jews control media and banking system" garbage, it's usually pretty clear Israel's actions usually aren't the motivation behind that comment. | |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 19:56 - Aug 13 with 1149 views | exiledclaseboy |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 19:53 - Aug 13 by reddythered |
Agree with you. It's perfectly fine to be opposed to Israel's actions.
When people start with the tired old "Jews control media and banking system" garbage, it's usually pretty clear Israel's actions usually aren't the motivation behind that comment. |
Indeed. | |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 19:59 - Aug 13 with 1144 views | exiledclaseboy |
People do realise that Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a proven hoax, don't they? | |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 20:02 - Aug 13 with 1140 views | reddythered |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 19:59 - Aug 13 by exiledclaseboy |
People do realise that Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a proven hoax, don't they? |
Probably would try to claim black pudding is proof of the Blood Libel too.
Hamas don't believe those Protocols were a hoax either, unsurprisingly. | |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 20:06 - Aug 13 with 1132 views | controversial_jack |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 19:41 - Aug 13 by reddythered |
Yes, yes, yes, Jews are behind the Illuminati, Bilderburg group and no doubt stole Sooty and Sweep away from Matthew Corbett.
I presume the ethnicity of every media proprietor and banker around the world to back up such an assertion? Doesn't do the case any good to repeat stereotypical anti-semitic tropes. |
I'm not being anti Semitic, just stating facts | | | |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 20:07 - Aug 13 with 1129 views | reddythered |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 20:06 - Aug 13 by controversial_jack |
I'm not being anti Semitic, just stating facts |
Nobody said you were, don't be touchy.
Just pointing out it's an anti-semitic trope.
I assume you've evidence you can produce to back your assertion, since you're stating facts?
EDIT: To help you out, let's narrow it down. Can you point out the media in Britain run by Jews? Barclay brothers? Wrong. Lebedev? Wrong. Murdoch? Wrong.
Ah yes, Richard Desmond. So Jews run Express and Star ranges, Channel 5 ( now sold ) along with some smutty mags and those dodgy channels in the high numbers on the Sky EPG. [Post edited 13 Aug 2014 20:21]
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 20:20 - Aug 13 with 1123 views | keeponrockin |
This is a catastrophe and its roots are a direct result of the neo-con invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan.
This is quite possibly the most disastrous foreign policy in 100 years, truly beyond belief in its stupidity.
Iraq was a Country that was relatively calm had a secular leadership that as long as you kept in line would leave you alone and in relative affluence.
Christians used to be able to drink freely in Baghdad, women could wear make up - it was a place ruled by an iron fist but there was stability.
Now Christians have fled the Country or been killed, Sunni Muslims have been persecuted in the South by the 'moderate' Baghdad leadership, tribes are close to genocide by the threat of Sunni militia in the North.
It didn't need a genius to work out that our disastrous foreign policy was going to create a vacuum for backward extremists to thrive. When we should probably now intervene to stop the advance of an Islamic caliphate we are hamstrung.
The most incredible aspect of this is that the likes of Blair still believe it was right. Astonishing doesn't begin to describe it. | | | |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 20:25 - Aug 13 with 1116 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 20:20 - Aug 13 by keeponrockin |
This is a catastrophe and its roots are a direct result of the neo-con invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan.
This is quite possibly the most disastrous foreign policy in 100 years, truly beyond belief in its stupidity.
Iraq was a Country that was relatively calm had a secular leadership that as long as you kept in line would leave you alone and in relative affluence.
Christians used to be able to drink freely in Baghdad, women could wear make up - it was a place ruled by an iron fist but there was stability.
Now Christians have fled the Country or been killed, Sunni Muslims have been persecuted in the South by the 'moderate' Baghdad leadership, tribes are close to genocide by the threat of Sunni militia in the North.
It didn't need a genius to work out that our disastrous foreign policy was going to create a vacuum for backward extremists to thrive. When we should probably now intervene to stop the advance of an Islamic caliphate we are hamstrung.
The most incredible aspect of this is that the likes of Blair still believe it was right. Astonishing doesn't begin to describe it. |
That's very well written indeed.
Of course we all know they didn't go in for Sadam & his nuclear weapons .
They went in for for one thing only . | |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 20:27 - Aug 13 with 1112 views | reddythered |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 20:20 - Aug 13 by keeponrockin |
This is a catastrophe and its roots are a direct result of the neo-con invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan.
This is quite possibly the most disastrous foreign policy in 100 years, truly beyond belief in its stupidity.
Iraq was a Country that was relatively calm had a secular leadership that as long as you kept in line would leave you alone and in relative affluence.
Christians used to be able to drink freely in Baghdad, women could wear make up - it was a place ruled by an iron fist but there was stability.
Now Christians have fled the Country or been killed, Sunni Muslims have been persecuted in the South by the 'moderate' Baghdad leadership, tribes are close to genocide by the threat of Sunni militia in the North.
It didn't need a genius to work out that our disastrous foreign policy was going to create a vacuum for backward extremists to thrive. When we should probably now intervene to stop the advance of an Islamic caliphate we are hamstrung.
The most incredible aspect of this is that the likes of Blair still believe it was right. Astonishing doesn't begin to describe it. |
To be honest it just shows how f***ed up the world is and how western sensibilities can never be applied to that region given Iraq was relatively peaceful under the brutal regime of a dicatator responsible for slaughtering Kurds.
The left wanted action when the genocide against Kurds was occuring. IMO, action should have been taken but even so that power vacuum would still have happened.
You say it's a disastrous foreign policy, there's no "winning" foreign policy in the region. None whatsoever. Hussein gassing Kurds? Depose him or arm rebels? Either way many forces then claim any replacement to be a western puppet gaining support from brainwashed residents; brainwashed because the media is fully controlled. Some would claim the media in Iraq was controlled by Jews probably.
Sometimes it seems the only "winning" strategy is to say "f*** it, sort it out yourselves". | |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 20:28 - Aug 13 with 1110 views | exiledclaseboy |
| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 20:20 - Aug 13 by keeponrockin |
This is a catastrophe and its roots are a direct result of the neo-con invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan.
This is quite possibly the most disastrous foreign policy in 100 years, truly beyond belief in its stupidity.
Iraq was a Country that was relatively calm had a secular leadership that as long as you kept in line would leave you alone and in relative affluence.
Christians used to be able to drink freely in Baghdad, women could wear make up - it was a place ruled by an iron fist but there was stability.
Now Christians have fled the Country or been killed, Sunni Muslims have been persecuted in the South by the 'moderate' Baghdad leadership, tribes are close to genocide by the threat of Sunni militia in the North.
It didn't need a genius to work out that our disastrous foreign policy was going to create a vacuum for backward extremists to thrive. When we should probably now intervene to stop the advance of an Islamic caliphate we are hamstrung.
The most incredible aspect of this is that the likes of Blair still believe it was right. Astonishing doesn't begin to describe it. |
I completely agree. It's a shame those of us who opposed this folly from the beginning weren't shouted down by everyone else who fully supported it at the time. Lots of blood on lots of hands and it won't end for a generation, if ever. | |
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| ISIS. .....or IS as they now are..... on 20:32 - Aug 13 with 1099 views | perchrockjack |
Perch is right. I can now did happy. In all seriousness there's been some fair comments on here, wrong IMO but fair, and in have no favourite posters as you're all a showe ofshit   | |
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