| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 09:34 - Jul 15 with 7948 views | HAYESBOY |
If Adel & Granero want off then the teams who want them have to buy them.
Keep loaning players until there contracts run out means we get no fee. |  |
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| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 09:57 - Jul 15 with 7813 views | ingeminate |
i would prefer it if Harry kept his counsel a bit more on what players wanted.
if either of Granero/Adel ends up staying then it makes it that bit more difficult to become part of the team, don't think it does anything to stem the them and us culture that caused the problems first time around.
Surely he could answer by saying,
"you never know what will happen, obviously they have gone away on loan spells and seem highly regarded over there, but if they do stay then great news as they are quality players".
Seems to me Harry is more inclined to push them out the door rather than reintegrate - I'm generally a HR fan, think he's done a pretty exceptional job overall, but do think he has a bit of a blind spot when it comes to how good a firing Adel in a half decent team could be in the prem - i still think you could build a team around him which would make mid-table. |  |
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| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 10:11 - Jul 15 with 7702 views | simmo |
Why doesn't he shut his fckin mouth for a change. |  |
| ask Beavis I get nothing Butthead |
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| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 10:15 - Jul 15 with 7676 views | barabajagal |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 09:57 - Jul 15 by ingeminate |
i would prefer it if Harry kept his counsel a bit more on what players wanted.
if either of Granero/Adel ends up staying then it makes it that bit more difficult to become part of the team, don't think it does anything to stem the them and us culture that caused the problems first time around.
Surely he could answer by saying,
"you never know what will happen, obviously they have gone away on loan spells and seem highly regarded over there, but if they do stay then great news as they are quality players".
Seems to me Harry is more inclined to push them out the door rather than reintegrate - I'm generally a HR fan, think he's done a pretty exceptional job overall, but do think he has a bit of a blind spot when it comes to how good a firing Adel in a half decent team could be in the prem - i still think you could build a team around him which would make mid-table. |
The closest metaphor I can think of is a classroom of kids, it only takes one or two disruptive children to completely change the ethos and atmosphere, others follow and the teacher has lost the class, no-one learns. Maybe it is the same thing in the dressing room, one or two agitators can wreck a team, so to have him back is too much of a risk. Additionally, he didn't last long at Fulham, maybe he isn't so good in the Premiership. I loved him four years ago, but perhaps it's time to move on. |  | | |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 10:17 - Jul 15 with 7665 views | daveB |
rather than looking to get rid of Adel and Granero I think he is just pointing out how few players we have and that he wants more. I think everyone knows those two are going to leave this summer. Both very good players imo but Granero just doesn't suit English football and Adel needs to be playing abroad now imo |  | | |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 10:47 - Jul 15 with 7503 views | TheChef |
Bare bones innit. |  |
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| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 10:57 - Jul 15 with 7434 views | 00calben |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 10:11 - Jul 15 by simmo |
Why doesn't he shut his fckin mouth for a change. |
^ this. |  | | |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 11:05 - Jul 15 with 7377 views | rosseeles |
He does need to put a lid on it for a change. hopefully not mentioning caulker may be harry keeping his cards close to his chest (unlikely!) |  | | |
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| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 11:09 - Jul 15 with 7356 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Anyone else sick of the media / supporter speculation? I used to enjoy it, and now it either depresses me or gets my hopes up for nothing.
Won't believe anything till I see a player in a QPR shirt, and even that doesn't mean anything certain (Stefan Moore). |  | | |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 11:13 - Jul 15 with 7336 views | 08olesen |
Im sure he was exaggerating a bit, but if we are seriously down to little over '11 players' then we need to move quickly. He sounded a bit stressed over the whole thing, i hope the deals are close because regardless of who the signings are, we need some before the tour starts IMO in order for the whole team to be up to the same fitness levels.
Personally i think there is more to be done than many on here think. Yun has hardly been tested for us and needs a solid back up, likewise with Danny Simpson. Clint needs to be replaced as a starter by Ferdinand and Caulker.
The Midfield needs at least 2 in once Grannie has gone. Fer would do nicely, but im stuck from there onwards.
Upfront we actually look ok now if Remy stays, Bobby signs and Sigthorsson arrives. Although Harry needs to get on his bike and sort it all out. |  |
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| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 11:16 - Jul 15 with 7313 views | facto |
like him or not wenger shows how to deal with media....feed em snippets n red herrings! | | | |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 11:27 - Jul 15 with 7229 views | paulparker |
pretty obvious from day one that HR has no time for Adel and after a few games he has no time for granero either, all part of Arrys plan to make them leave the club IMHO
why some on this MB got excited about both coming back and playing a part is a mystery , as much as I love Adel he wont be a part of things next year
Infact will eat my Underpants if either one of them lasts the season |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 11:34 - Jul 15 with 7195 views | RangersAreBack |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 09:57 - Jul 15 by ingeminate |
i would prefer it if Harry kept his counsel a bit more on what players wanted.
if either of Granero/Adel ends up staying then it makes it that bit more difficult to become part of the team, don't think it does anything to stem the them and us culture that caused the problems first time around.
Surely he could answer by saying,
"you never know what will happen, obviously they have gone away on loan spells and seem highly regarded over there, but if they do stay then great news as they are quality players".
Seems to me Harry is more inclined to push them out the door rather than reintegrate - I'm generally a HR fan, think he's done a pretty exceptional job overall, but do think he has a bit of a blind spot when it comes to how good a firing Adel in a half decent team could be in the prem - i still think you could build a team around him which would make mid-table. |
I agree that Harry should keep his transfer cards close to his chest until deals are done. It will alert other clubs to the availability of our targets and create issues with those unwanted players QPR fail to sell.
I disagree about Taraabt, who comes with baggage and clearly wants out. Building a team around 1 player (especially one as temperamental as Adel) is not the direction I want to see QPR go. As the Germans showed team ethic is more important than individuals. |  | | |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 11:37 - Jul 15 with 7178 views | PinnerPaul |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 10:11 - Jul 15 by simmo |
Why doesn't he shut his fckin mouth for a change. |
Maybe he's trying to manage expectations of fans who see them as our dream midfield partnership next season, despite it not working previously! 
As posted a week or two ago, can't see Harry going with too many players who were around when we got relegated last time | | | |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 12:23 - Jul 15 with 7003 views | HAYESBOY |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 10:11 - Jul 15 by simmo |
Why doesn't he shut his fckin mouth for a change. |
A bit hard really when trying to do a radio interview. Sort of defeats the object.  | |
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| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 12:25 - Jul 15 with 6986 views | facto |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 11:27 - Jul 15 by paulparker |
pretty obvious from day one that HR has no time for Adel and after a few games he has no time for granero either, all part of Arrys plan to make them leave the club IMHO
why some on this MB got excited about both coming back and playing a part is a mystery , as much as I love Adel he wont be a part of things next year
Infact will eat my Underpants if either one of them lasts the season |
you aware of the amount of cholesteral in underpants man?? | | | |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 12:26 - Jul 15 with 6974 views | essextaxiboy |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 10:11 - Jul 15 by simmo |
Why doesn't he shut his fckin mouth for a change. |
Because he is using the media to get things moving . |  | | |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 12:33 - Jul 15 with 6931 views | A40Bosh |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 12:23 - Jul 15 by HAYESBOY |
A bit hard really when trying to do a radio interview. Sort of defeats the object. |
And in fairness to him he has only mentioned Rio as a "target" and no one else, playing down any approaches for Dawson.
It is no surprise to any of us that Adel wants out, he still thinks he is too good for us and wants to go back to Milan, so why even pretend he is going to be part of the set up and the same the Granero.
70% of the interview was nothing to do with QPR anyway. |  |
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| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 12:33 - Jul 15 with 6931 views | PinnerPaul |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 11:13 - Jul 15 by 08olesen |
Im sure he was exaggerating a bit, but if we are seriously down to little over '11 players' then we need to move quickly. He sounded a bit stressed over the whole thing, i hope the deals are close because regardless of who the signings are, we need some before the tour starts IMO in order for the whole team to be up to the same fitness levels.
Personally i think there is more to be done than many on here think. Yun has hardly been tested for us and needs a solid back up, likewise with Danny Simpson. Clint needs to be replaced as a starter by Ferdinand and Caulker.
The Midfield needs at least 2 in once Grannie has gone. Fer would do nicely, but im stuck from there onwards.
Upfront we actually look ok now if Remy stays, Bobby signs and Sigthorsson arrives. Although Harry needs to get on his bike and sort it all out. |
But not just us is it?
Daily Fail published a club by club "Who your team is after" feature this week.
Yes I know its 90% guesswork but they didn't print "Transfers all sorted" against ANY team! | | | |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 12:34 - Jul 15 with 6928 views | DANRANGER |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 09:57 - Jul 15 by ingeminate |
i would prefer it if Harry kept his counsel a bit more on what players wanted.
if either of Granero/Adel ends up staying then it makes it that bit more difficult to become part of the team, don't think it does anything to stem the them and us culture that caused the problems first time around.
Surely he could answer by saying,
"you never know what will happen, obviously they have gone away on loan spells and seem highly regarded over there, but if they do stay then great news as they are quality players".
Seems to me Harry is more inclined to push them out the door rather than reintegrate - I'm generally a HR fan, think he's done a pretty exceptional job overall, but do think he has a bit of a blind spot when it comes to how good a firing Adel in a half decent team could be in the prem - i still think you could build a team around him which would make mid-table. |
I agree with this. He should be stating they are back with the squad and until offers agreed are QPR players who need to show what they can offer to fight for a place in the team even if he has no intention of playing them. When building for a new season we don't want to isolate anyone as they may as well be put on the transfer list (does that still exist?).
There are no guarantees we will sign the players he wants, far from it so these are quality players and it's his job to get the best out of them and they would be excellent options who you'd hope want to prove him wrong and earn a shirt. Can't make it too easy for them, they signed the contracts, honour them. The way we are going SWP might get a game...... |  | | |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 12:39 - Jul 15 with 6886 views | nadera78 |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 12:26 - Jul 15 by essextaxiboy |
Because he is using the media to get things moving . |
No, he is using the media to put pressure on TF and, ultimately, get his own way. | | | |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 12:45 - Jul 15 with 6845 views | RangersAreBack |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 12:34 - Jul 15 by DANRANGER |
I agree with this. He should be stating they are back with the squad and until offers agreed are QPR players who need to show what they can offer to fight for a place in the team even if he has no intention of playing them. When building for a new season we don't want to isolate anyone as they may as well be put on the transfer list (does that still exist?).
There are no guarantees we will sign the players he wants, far from it so these are quality players and it's his job to get the best out of them and they would be excellent options who you'd hope want to prove him wrong and earn a shirt. Can't make it too easy for them, they signed the contracts, honour them. The way we are going SWP might get a game...... |
Re-integrating outcasts back into the squad is one thing, building the team around them is quite another. Besides Harry must consider the entire squad before considering re-integration. Does he risk damaging team spirit that he worked so hard to rebuild last season just to reintroduce 1 or 2 players? Judging by Hill's comment to Adel there appears to be a lack of respect and who can blame him after he and Derry had to put up with Adel wearing the armband and pretending to be captain just to satisfy his ego. | | | |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 12:48 - Jul 15 with 6829 views | TheBlob |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 12:25 - Jul 15 by facto |
you aware of the amount of cholesteral in underpants man?? |
I wish some people on here would shaddap for a change. |  |
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| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 12:59 - Jul 15 with 6767 views | facto |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 12:48 - Jul 15 by TheBlob |
I wish some people on here would shaddap for a change. |
tad harsh old bean!! | | | |
| Harry on Talksport - Adel/Granero/Rio on 13:01 - Jul 15 with 6753 views | adhoc_qpr |
I hope one of the 'lessons' that we have learned is to stop giving players away and funding their wages!
Granero, Adel etc can all be useful squad members, so unless someone is willing to put up some serious cash i.e. permanent transfer or loan fee and 100% of wages - then we keep them!
Rio, Fer, Sigthorsson, keeping Remy and a left back would be a reasonable summers work. | | | |
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