| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread 16:30 - Feb 9 with 35741 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Back to our better selves against Blackburn last week. We've had a week off, Coventry haven't. They are doing well, so are we.
We just look like a good team. 2-0 QPR. [Post edited 9 Feb 19:13]
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| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 07:05 - Feb 12 with 1865 views | Hoopstar |
The most annoying thing about our delivery is we're actually joint 3rd in the table for goals from set pieces - as we know we're a huge threat when the ball actually gets in there. Not sure how many of our 10 set piece goals are free kicks (where both Paal and Chair tend to have decent delivery weirdly) to corners.
I personally think Chair looks a lot improved playing in the 10 role and bringing both wings into play effectively - but might be a set up better suited to home games.
Bringing Lloyd on for Frey can be problematic at times as they want different things and we don't seem to adapt - Frey wants it into him or on the air so he can battle for it, while Lloyd wants it knocked behind to chase and hassle defenders into a mistake. They are not like for like replacements but we don't seem able to adjust our tactics to suit the relative strengths of the one coming on from my limited understanding of footy tactics |  | | |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 07:07 - Feb 12 with 1844 views | HammersmithR |
Didn’t deserve to lose that but that’s the Championship. Now lost against Coventry, Millwall and Sheff Wed in our last 4 games. Chair does not look at the races. He looks painfully slow. There was a moment last night where if he had pace he would have had a one on one with the keeper, but he stopped and waited for the Coventry team to get back. I like the guy and he has credit in the bank but he needs to be a hell of a lot better to play in that number 10 role.
Can we please take him and Paal off corners? Literally every single one cannot beat the first post. There are others who can surely take them. We also need to see more goals from the likes of Smyth, Saito, Chair etc. They’re our attacking players and barely score. | | | |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 07:35 - Feb 12 with 1751 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
It's that central midfield area again causing problems. With Colback or Morgan in there we do OK, but Field and Varane just cannot keep it.
Watch Field in the last 20 min and see how many times he just aimlessly boots it away. I lost count last night. My son says he reverts to 'factory setting' when he is pressed.
Summer signing priority is a central midfielder. Oh, and a striker, and an entire new back line due to contracts running out. Doh!
Should have got a point. Annoying. | | | |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 07:46 - Feb 12 with 1666 views | Juzzie |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 00:04 - Feb 12 by stainrods_elbow |
Why can't it be both-and rather than either-or? He could tell the dressing room (and give them a dressing-down) and tell us some truth while he's at it. |
Maybe coaches don’t want to publicly acknowledge their team may be weak in certain situations to other team’s Managers
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| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 07:58 - Feb 12 with 1597 views | QPROslo |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 22:29 - Feb 11 by davman |
I'm all for other opinions, but this one is certifiable.
Terrible take.
Paal shite. Chair far from shite.
This board, eh!? |
Paal ain't sh*te, just inconsistent. Eg. His interplay up the left wing and ball in for Frey which he should of scored from, was superb++. So was a double goal saving clearance 1st half. But then he seems to switch off sometimes. | | | |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 08:06 - Feb 12 with 1546 views | QPROslo |
It was a real joy to watch Saito skills, tricking his way past defenders last night. The one where he got through 3 of them on the touchline made it worth staying up to 5am by itself. He also made one huge tackle. Nardi or Saito MOM for me, I'd go Nardi. | | | |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 08:17 - Feb 12 with 1458 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 08:06 - Feb 12 by QPROslo |
It was a real joy to watch Saito skills, tricking his way past defenders last night. The one where he got through 3 of them on the touchline made it worth staying up to 5am by itself. He also made one huge tackle. Nardi or Saito MOM for me, I'd go Nardi. |
I thought Nardi was at fault for their goal, Oslo
The first save of the double save was pushed out into traffic, though his second save was excellent.
And his other flashy save was standard enough, but even that came after a weak clearing punch.
In short, I thought he was poor last night. |  |
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| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 08:18 - Feb 12 with 1441 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 08:06 - Feb 12 by QPROslo |
It was a real joy to watch Saito skills, tricking his way past defenders last night. The one where he got through 3 of them on the touchline made it worth staying up to 5am by itself. He also made one huge tackle. Nardi or Saito MOM for me, I'd go Nardi. |
Saito edges it as Nardi was hopeless for the losing goal.
Colback had a good game as well: we were noticeably poorer when he went off. |  | | |
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| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 09:11 - Feb 12 with 1315 views | silverbirch |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 08:18 - Feb 12 by Ned_Kennedys |
Saito edges it as Nardi was hopeless for the losing goal.
Colback had a good game as well: we were noticeably poorer when he went off. |
Yes, I was very pleasantly surprised by how sharp Colback was, so soon after injury. | | | |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 09:13 - Feb 12 with 1298 views | QPunkR |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 08:17 - Feb 12 by BrianMcCarthy |
I thought Nardi was at fault for their goal, Oslo
The first save of the double save was pushed out into traffic, though his second save was excellent.
And his other flashy save was standard enough, but even that came after a weak clearing punch.
In short, I thought he was poor last night. |
I really can’t agree with you there Brian. Up until one minute full time Nardi was immense and kept us in the game. Two double saves plus the one on one towards the end of the game. Ultimately, however, we lost because of two moments - Nardi choosing a pushing battle over staying on his line with eyes on the ball and Frey yet again missing an easy chance. No idea why he can’t put away that one kind of chance but he’s done it a couple of times now.
Just goes to show how football is a game of moments. That said, we really REALLY need to take Nardi off all training apart from how to deal with corners. Coventry obviously identified this as a weakness and exploited it |  |
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| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 09:20 - Feb 12 with 1280 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 09:13 - Feb 12 by QPunkR |
I really can’t agree with you there Brian. Up until one minute full time Nardi was immense and kept us in the game. Two double saves plus the one on one towards the end of the game. Ultimately, however, we lost because of two moments - Nardi choosing a pushing battle over staying on his line with eyes on the ball and Frey yet again missing an easy chance. No idea why he can’t put away that one kind of chance but he’s done it a couple of times now.
Just goes to show how football is a game of moments. That said, we really REALLY need to take Nardi off all training apart from how to deal with corners. Coventry obviously identified this as a weakness and exploited it |
Fair enough. Differing opinions.
The one-on-one save was sharp alright. | |
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| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 09:26 - Feb 12 with 1253 views | gazza1 |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 08:17 - Feb 12 by BrianMcCarthy |
I thought Nardi was at fault for their goal, Oslo
The first save of the double save was pushed out into traffic, though his second save was excellent.
And his other flashy save was standard enough, but even that came after a weak clearing punch.
In short, I thought he was poor last night. |
Harsh.....very harsh. | | | |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 10:24 - Feb 12 with 1118 views | dm97 |
Contrary to most on here, I thought they were comfortably the better team and deserved to edge it. Thought their midfield was far superior off the ball - by FotMob not a single one of our starting midfielders made a tackle - and on it. Rudoni and Sakamoto bossed much of the game, and it always felt like if someone was going to win it it’d be them.
Baffled at the opinion Nardi was poor. Handling from crosses aside, bit of a theme for him, was excellent.
We’ve got two games coming up now against much worse opposition, and should be able to get more points on the board to trickle up towards 50 |  | | |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 10:31 - Feb 12 with 1082 views | Watford_Ranger |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 10:24 - Feb 12 by dm97 |
Contrary to most on here, I thought they were comfortably the better team and deserved to edge it. Thought their midfield was far superior off the ball - by FotMob not a single one of our starting midfielders made a tackle - and on it. Rudoni and Sakamoto bossed much of the game, and it always felt like if someone was going to win it it’d be them.
Baffled at the opinion Nardi was poor. Handling from crosses aside, bit of a theme for him, was excellent.
We’ve got two games coming up now against much worse opposition, and should be able to get more points on the board to trickle up towards 50 |
I think Field made one according to FM. Had a look earlier as the hipster kids were on their weekly tirade about dropping him. Won all but one of his seven ‘duels’ too. | | | |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 11:09 - Feb 12 with 965 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 10:24 - Feb 12 by dm97 |
Contrary to most on here, I thought they were comfortably the better team and deserved to edge it. Thought their midfield was far superior off the ball - by FotMob not a single one of our starting midfielders made a tackle - and on it. Rudoni and Sakamoto bossed much of the game, and it always felt like if someone was going to win it it’d be them.
Baffled at the opinion Nardi was poor. Handling from crosses aside, bit of a theme for him, was excellent.
We’ve got two games coming up now against much worse opposition, and should be able to get more points on the board to trickle up towards 50 |
Yes, that is contrary to most on here and most neutrals I have spoken to this morning as well. I think a win would have been harsh on the other team and a draw was about right. Both teams had good spells. We looked far more comfortable playing out from the back than they did I thought. But then they had good chances and the fact some make Nardi MOM supports that.
Good to see different opinions though. [Post edited 12 Feb 11:12]
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| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 11:19 - Feb 12 with 931 views | TheChef |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 22:24 - Feb 11 by Ned_Kennedys |
Certainly didn’t deserve to win as we played 95 mins without scoring.
Nardi was weak as hell for that corner: had a very good game up until then but Coventry were clearly targeting his weakness at dominating his box for their set pieces and annoyingly the last one of many paid off for them.
Thought Saito was MOTM again: rest of the attacking players were not at it tonight. |
I know you're singling out Nardi for that last corner but clearly he was MOTM - without all his saves in the game we'd already have been dead and buried by the 90th minute! |  |
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| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 11:22 - Feb 12 with 915 views | loftboy |
Nardi is a brilliant shot stopper but a good as Dracula when it comes to crosses,but if he excelled at everything he probably wouldn’t be playing for us. |  |
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| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 11:23 - Feb 12 with 906 views | TheChef |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 01:18 - Feb 12 by Northernr |
That was incredibly frustrating, because it was a game we could, should, have won. I'd have been disappointed with a 0-0 had it ended that way.
I looked at the team to start with and thought not enough mobility and legs in the midfield, but if we stodge it up for an hour we can bring that on from the bench on 60 when they're tired.
In the end, it was the opposite. We were the better team for the first hour. The midfield stepped on. Loved Colback's performance. Saito tremendous. Frey, same chance he missed at Plymouth, has to score. I don't care about the keeper doing well. Got to score.
We've had good impact from the bench recently, but after the subs we were crap. The midfield became deep and passive.
Nardi had a great game, but why on earth are we doing the PRETEND THE GOALKEEPER IS INJURED thing, 8 minutes from time, in a 0-0 away at Coventry, 12th v 13th, to run the clock on a draw? What are we doing here guys?
It set the tone. We were lucky to get away with the disallowed goal. We then had 3 corners in 5 mins of stoppage time and fcked them all up, would have been 4 but Paal decided to shepherd the ball out for a throw instead of just banging it back in. If you o that you can't then complain about this foul or that if they get one corner and deliver the fcking thing properly.
A huge missed opp. We beat ourselves.
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Fair point on the Nardi sit down/ time wasting in the last ten minutes, I didn't see what the point was. Don't think Cov were applying great pressure at that point in the match? | |
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| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 11:29 - Feb 12 with 881 views | TheChef |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 07:58 - Feb 12 by QPROslo |
Paal ain't sh*te, just inconsistent. Eg. His interplay up the left wing and ball in for Frey which he should of scored from, was superb++. So was a double goal saving clearance 1st half. But then he seems to switch off sometimes. |
I thought Paal's cross could have been better, needed a bit more pace on it which made it a bit more tricky for Frey. Still think the keeper did very well too. | |
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| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match threads on 11:37 - Feb 12 with 856 views | dm97 |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 10:31 - Feb 12 by Watford_Ranger |
I think Field made one according to FM. Had a look earlier as the hipster kids were on their weekly tirade about dropping him. Won all but one of his seven ‘duels’ too. |
Ah apologies - I’ll blame it on my priors thinking we looked a bit weak on the eye!
Personally feel that away from home Varane is needed as we can look a bit fragile/slow in middle of park, though I get the resting given his outlay over winter. | | | |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 11:42 - Feb 12 with 842 views | dm97 |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 11:09 - Feb 12 by CroydonCaptJack |
Yes, that is contrary to most on here and most neutrals I have spoken to this morning as well. I think a win would have been harsh on the other team and a draw was about right. Both teams had good spells. We looked far more comfortable playing out from the back than they did I thought. But then they had good chances and the fact some make Nardi MOM supports that.
Good to see different opinions though. [Post edited 12 Feb 11:12]
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Yeah that’s fair, and maybe I’m being overly harsh on our lot / see Cov with some rose tinted glasses (as player for player I think they’re up there with Boro for best of the rest). Ultimately it was a game of fine margins to quote Warbs Warburton, and all three results can be argued - but personally just felt they looked slightly better than us across the pitch (except for Nardi).
Amazing to think last time we played both teams were in and around bottom 3, based on yesterday [Post edited 12 Feb 11:43]
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| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 11:49 - Feb 12 with 805 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 10:31 - Feb 12 by Watford_Ranger |
I think Field made one according to FM. Had a look earlier as the hipster kids were on their weekly tirade about dropping him. Won all but one of his seven ‘duels’ too. |
Field is a massive problem in our midfield. He cannot pass, and with about 20 minutes to go he starts hoofing the ball away. Those 20 minutes is when we need to keep the ball. He does every game.
He does need to be replaced, but it won't happen until the summer.
I keep saying that Field, Smyth and Dunne are not players who will get a team promoted. And we should be aiming for that within 18 months.
Rumour amongst the hipster kids is that he is already being lined up to be sold. He should be, as should anyone else that can't pass a ball 10 fckin yards. | | | |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 12:01 - Feb 12 with 761 views | corse |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 11:49 - Feb 12 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Field is a massive problem in our midfield. He cannot pass, and with about 20 minutes to go he starts hoofing the ball away. Those 20 minutes is when we need to keep the ball. He does every game.
He does need to be replaced, but it won't happen until the summer.
I keep saying that Field, Smyth and Dunne are not players who will get a team promoted. And we should be aiming for that within 18 months.
Rumour amongst the hipster kids is that he is already being lined up to be sold. He should be, as should anyone else that can't pass a ball 10 fckin yards. |
Very true | | | |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 12:39 - Feb 12 with 638 views | mart_Goblin |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 11:49 - Feb 12 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Field is a massive problem in our midfield. He cannot pass, and with about 20 minutes to go he starts hoofing the ball away. Those 20 minutes is when we need to keep the ball. He does every game.
He does need to be replaced, but it won't happen until the summer.
I keep saying that Field, Smyth and Dunne are not players who will get a team promoted. And we should be aiming for that within 18 months.
Rumour amongst the hipster kids is that he is already being lined up to be sold. He should be, as should anyone else that can't pass a ball 10 fckin yards. |
A lot to agree with with here .
I like Sam Field a lot and at times he is very important to what we do so I’m not suggesting dropping him in the immediate future but he is painfully poor on the ball, looking like a fish out of water at times and hoping for someone , anyone to make contact so he can go over to get a free kick .
If we have any ambition then we do need to slowly start finding replacements who can do Fields job and receive the ball on the turn and make crisp passes instead of panicking which is what Field does a lot of the time .
Varane does one side of Fields game very well and Morgan does the other but neither are the finished article yet . Both a small step in the right direction though .
If we continue moving in the right direction I do think Cifuentes will have to make a decision in the near future.
None of the 3 you have mentioned have been what you would call ‘poor’ . Far from it actually but I understand your point .
For me Jimmy is good enough to be in a team pushing for promotion . I thought he’s last few games at right centre back were pretty good too .
Developed a weird twitch last though . That was a bit strange .
Anyone else notice that ? 😄
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| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 12:45 - Feb 12 with 601 views | Watford_Ranger |
| QPR v Fat Frank's Lady Godìva first eleven match thread on 11:49 - Feb 12 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Field is a massive problem in our midfield. He cannot pass, and with about 20 minutes to go he starts hoofing the ball away. Those 20 minutes is when we need to keep the ball. He does every game.
He does need to be replaced, but it won't happen until the summer.
I keep saying that Field, Smyth and Dunne are not players who will get a team promoted. And we should be aiming for that within 18 months.
Rumour amongst the hipster kids is that he is already being lined up to be sold. He should be, as should anyone else that can't pass a ball 10 fckin yards. |
I guess people could have (and probably did) made the same arguments about Hill/Derry/Tommy Smith and other regulars from that squad. I get what you’re saying but I think a team like ours bringing in supposed better players comes with its own risks and challenges, amply demonstrated by the carnage early in the season with Dembele showing flashes of very good play but overall not a lot, Madsen doing Madsen things etc. | | | |
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