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The Story Is Astori
The Story Is Astori
Thursday, 28th Mar 2013 09:51

Saints are once again being linked with Italian international defender Davide Astori who is expected to leave Cagliari at the end of the season.

The speculation linking Saints with the 26 year old is nothing new, Astori was linked in the January transfer window, but the players agents are again working overtime to get their man into the transfer market and perhaps start a dutch auction that will of course result in the potential earning power of their charge increasing and naturally the earnings of his agents as well.

If rumour is to be believed the agents have been talking to the club as well as Napoli and his first club AC MIlan who they say are keen to re sign him if they can.

Astori would undoubtably be an asset to Saints, but if they have to pay a fee in the region of £10 million pounds the question would be whether Saints could get better value at home, our problem this year has been in the centre of defence and already the signing of Vegard Forren looks to be a white elephant, with the player obviously now being fit for the best part of six weeks yet unable to force his way even into a centre of defence that could be described as amongst the weakest in the division, this highlights the need to get in players who are tried and trusted in the Premiership.   

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LennyJam added 10:56 - Mar 28
would be an immense addition and add SIGNIFICANT quality at the back
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ExiledSupporter added 11:10 - Mar 28
Not a very likely signing if Milan are a serious contender and anyway, as per Forren, who is deciding at Saints which players should be transfer targets - not Pochettino I suspect/ Like the majority of signings while Adkins was in charge, I think he will be given players to work with rather than allowed to select his preferences
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chalks82 added 12:38 - Mar 28
In respect of Forren the question has to be when is the right time to put him in. I think if we were mid table with no relegation worries we would have seen him thrown in, but with every game meaning so much is it a gamble to put him in with no Premier League experience? Imagine if we picked him against Chelsea and lost 2-3, everyone would be on here saying it was a gamble that didn't pay off and why change it when we kept a clean sheet last time out. I think we will see a lot of him once we are mathematically safe.
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simmo400 added 12:57 - Mar 28
Will only matter if we stay up. If he wanted to get here hes had chances. Sounds like a mecenary to me. Also a bad temperment read somewhere sent off twice this season. RISKY.
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Scummer added 14:12 - Mar 28
Chalks, a few of the posters on here said the same kind of things when advocating Fox in the team in preference to the untested but promising Shaw. Hopefully Forren will add some quality and competition to those positions, but I guess we'll need to trust in the manager and coaches to get the timing right.
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tiptop added 16:35 - Mar 28
exiledsupporter
your suggestion/the suggestion that MoPo doesnt target his own players may be true. But it looks like Coutinho was his target and we were prepared to pay good money for him.
Nic
I dont know how fit Forren is but to say he is a white elephant and has been ready for the best part of six weeks is off the mark. In the U21's match v Liv he ran out of steam. Has been on the bench. He's getting close i think
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REEDYREEDOREEDZ added 16:41 - Mar 28
Forren isn't a write-off. He hasn't played reguarly since mid November when the Norwegian league finished. Its taken a long time to get him near match fit and Poche hasn't risked bedding him in because we need the points. Our defence has improved a bit too recently.
Chalks82 is right, we'll prob see Forren play this season when we are pretty much safe. Then he can be given games to get used to the Premiership.

Next season I reckon our CB pairing will be Forren and a new signing; Astori would be superb.
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Jesus_02 added 16:53 - Mar 28
I am not sure why people like to blame Cortese for the errors in purchases and credit the manager for the good ones. I reckon the only manager that has the old style freedom of seeing a player he like and buying him is 'Arry.

What is the point of employing a professional scouting network if the manager is the only one that has a say...seems like creating a business with a single point of failure to me.

RE Forren I echo the sentiments of those that say its a question of timing. Same as Tadanari Lee. Its not that Lee wasnt ever good enough its more that Jay Rod has worked hard for his spot in contention with him.

Yoshida, has improved so has Jos and Jose. I expect Forren to get an operunity towards the end of the season if we are safe.

If Astori comes in one of the 4 current CBs will be likely to move out on loan.
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ExiledSupporter added 18:04 - Mar 28
Tiptop, It's a fair point you make about Coutinho on the grounds that MP is clearly an admirer and has had previously positive experience of playing him at Espanyol.

But if what you say is true it raises some questions like why consider spending big sums of money on another forward in the transfer window when bolstering the defence was widely regarded as the most pressing priority. Another point is recruiting him would have meant dropping two from Puncheon, Ramirez, Lallana, Rodrigues or, even, Lambert which I think is difficult to imagine at least at this stage of the season.

Ok, in January we might have expected Forren to appear after some exposure to our training regime, but here we are two months later and still not a minute of first team football. Either a) not remotely fit enough for us but good enough to play at international level or b) not good enough to be selected to start by MP which sort of implies that the head coach doesn't think he has the necessary quality when compared to the rather flawed central defenders that he was supposed to replace or c)that the head coach knew nothing about his impending arrival (I doubt he had even heard of him before!) or c) both in the case of Forren and Coutinho we were gazing at the horizon before we had secured our immediate future.

If the latter is true then the 'running before you can walk' cliche comes to mind.
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Whatsforpud added 20:05 - Mar 28
If it is a question of fitness with Forren, he has to be fit and match fit. He can get fit in training, but can only get match fit by actually playing. While it is tight near the bottom, he probably wont be risked. Not much of a confidence boost for the player. If it is not a question of fitness, it shows bad judgement on those who have signed him.
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aceofthebase added 21:14 - Mar 28
So is Forren getting fit or not? Is he on a top quality diet or feeding on hot cross buns? Is he running til he drops or sat in front of a computer with a pack of stellas and hamlets?

Just how long does it take a top club to get a player fit or is the answer he is not good enough?

ah well I always said we should beware of buying too many Forren players.
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