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Too Ott to handle
at 22:45 25 Jun 2024

Coleman is the man in the ground ...If as you hint Jase and Steve are still calling the final shot them I suspect Andy will walk.....I speak from experience
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More shares issued
at 22:39 25 Jun 2024

Who has owned the club since 2018?
So the great owners aren't getting the most from the academy
Shoot yourself in the foot again....or is is the Trusts fault no players are coming through
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England
at 22:36 25 Jun 2024

What about Russle Martin fir Wales. ..apparently he is a top manager
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Too Ott to handle
at 22:33 25 Jun 2024

I for once agree with you..but isn't Coleman an investor unlike the likes of Pearlman Birch and Winter?
Surely this gives him some sway?
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Too Ott to handle
at 22:28 25 Jun 2024

Why is it our fans always blame the owners?
Agents are not angels and they may be pushing the envelope.
The deal couldn't have been done .....
Or the news is Colemannis being overridden?
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Slovenia 🇸🇮 v England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
at 22:25 25 Jun 2024

We had a manager like that...he managed a another gig and apparently has done better there
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Slovenia 🇸🇮 v England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
at 21:32 25 Jun 2024

Two past Swans players on the pitch how many current or ex players are there in the competition from that big club Cardifff?
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Slovenia 🇸🇮 v England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
at 21:31 25 Jun 2024

Southgate has just read play football the Martin way
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Huw Jenkins
at 19:38 25 Jun 2024

Hi Garry

Didn't realise you were living in the Neath Valley these days
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Huw Jenkins
at 10:29 25 Jun 2024

Absolutely....sacking him and replacing him with Monk was Jenkins "best" move.
Imagine where could be had Monk et al not intervened.
First Welsh club to reach the Premier league ,and a European competition....but no others saw best
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at 09:56 25 Jun 2024

In fairness since HJ left Duff is the only manager to he sacked.
I agree they have made mistakes but no more tha n other clubs....Birmingham for example...
I m no great fan of this ownership group....but as we enter our seventh season in the Championship after falling from the top table we are still "competing " and midtable and debt free unlike the last time we fell from the top table.
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Huw Jenkins
at 09:37 25 Jun 2024

And I'm sure he would have won 2 in 2seasons here.
The sellouts andncertain players were worried we would fall from the PL as Laudrups focus was on the Europa league.
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at 09:34 25 Jun 2024

Kieran Maguire on Swansea City by KeithHaynes 24 Jun 20:37
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Swansea City confirmed losses of £17.9m in their latest set of accounts (Image: Getty Images)
It's perhaps gone under the radar a little, but Swansea City's owners have ploughed more money into the club's coffers.

Confirming yet another move that would see the issuing of new shares, the Swansea City Supporters' Trust said in a statement: "The Swans Trust can confirm today that a further 110,549 new shares have been issued at a total value of just over £2.5m following fresh investment into the club.

"As per our earlier statements earlier this year this is the latest of a series of cash injections which has been made by Swansea Football LLC, the investment vehicle of the majority owners, which includes Chairman Andy Coleman, Jason Levien, Steve Kaplan, and Jake Silverstein.

"We understand this is the final investment into the club from the majority owners in this financial year."

This is now the fifth time in as many months that the American ownership has decided to make such a move. Over the last 12 months, the issuing of new shares has injected nearly £28m into the club.

It's become an occurrence so regular that this latest announcement was made with next to no fanfare by the club, or indeed the media.

But ahead of what promises to be a very important summer, it has nevertheless piqued the interest of supporters, many of whom might well be wondering what it all means.

Some may take it as an indication that Swansea's American owners are getting serious about the upcoming campaign, others are pondering whether it's perhaps a cause for concern, particularly when placed against the backdrop of a slightly uneasy set of financial results.

The reality is a little more menial. Indeed, Swansea are by no means the only club in this position, particularly in the glorified casino that is the Championship.

"It's not unusual," says football finance guru Kieran Maguire. "There's other clubs, including those in the Championship, that do similar. Preston's owners have effectively given the club £1m a month via a share issue.

"It's an acknowledgement that if you want to go and play in the Championship playground it's a very expensive exercise to go through. The average losses are £400k a week. How do you circumvent that? One of the ways to do that is to issue shares. That's what we've seen here, with Swansea.

"It's better than borrowing money because if you issue shares, you don't have to pay them back. It's the owners putting money into the club to effectively keep the lights on. That sounds very dramatic. But it's not. Every club in the Championship is in a very similar position.

"Swansea were actually mid-table in terms of losses last season. Their losses were half that of Burnley and Sheffield United. Norwich lost close to £30m. Birmingham lost more, so did Bristol City, Blackburn and QPR. So Swansea are about eighth or ninth in the list of losses."

Financial losses will always carry the weight needed to generate a concerning headline, and many will argue that just because other clubs in the division are facing similar challenges doesn't mean the reality of Swansea's balance sheet can just be brushed off.

But for now, Maguire argues, there's little reason to worry.

"Unless the owners decide to do a Mel Morris at Derby and they get bored, or maybe realise that sticking £400k a week into the football club isn't a particularly good use of the children's inheritance.

"If the owners walk away, it then means the club doesn't have the resources to pay the bills on a month-by-month basis. That increases the risk of administration.

"Football clubs are trophy assets and provided the owner is getting some enjoyment out of it, in exactly the same way as they might a helicopter or a private island or a yacht, and we are talking about high-net worth individuals, then it's fine.

"But the owners are the biggest assets because they fund the losses, but they're the biggest risks because if their circumstances or attitudes change. Then the club is in a precarious position."

Given the club has seemingly ruled out any further issuing of new shares for the rest of the year, it appears there's some confidence that there will be enough cash to see them through for the first half of the season, although there's nothing stopping them from ploughing more in should they so wish.

"Issuing new shares is limitless," Maguire says. "Roman Abramovich brought in £1.5bn of financial support for Chelsea. Brighton's owners put in half a billion.

"There's nothing from a legal point of view to stop clubs taking such an approach. It could be that the owners might choose to put in some of the money in the form of interest-free loans as opposed to shares. But that's effectively the same thing - money to keep the lights on."

As with the Swans' latest accounts, the main takeaway that emerges from all this is that the reliance on the American ownership has never been stronger.

"It is very much a dependency relationship as opposed to the owner happening to be very good at what they do," Maguire adds.

That's all very well. But the obvious next question becomes what Swansea's owners actually get out of all this.

"They get the excitement," Maguire says. "There's the potential in 12 months' time to be hosting Liverpool, or Man United or Man City at your stadium. There's that incentive that if they do get to the Premier League and keep it there, then the value of the club does shoot up and you could potentially make a big financial return.

"But it doesn't tend to be a motivation. It's like any other trophy purchase. You might buy a piece of art just to say that you now own that piece of art.

"At any one point in time there's only 20 people on the planet that can say they own a Premier League football club."

A top-flight return still feels a little way off, but the ownership have made no secret of their desire to take the club back to the promised land one day.

Whether they're in a position to give Luke Williams, or indeed any manager, the adequate tools to get there any time soon is perhaps another question.



Maybe this might answer a few questions
I'm not the greatest fan of our owners but the grief they get sometimes.
Running a Championship club is not cheap
I think people forget that even back in the PL our previous owners borrowed money every close season.
Back in the sellouts hay day... the club didn't have the expense of the Landore and Gairwood facilities. I am talking about our last time in the Championship.
Costs have increased. The introduction of the mininum wage in 2016 will have impacted...on stewarding and catering costs ...we have spent monies on compensation and payoffs to managers.Players wages and fees have increased whilst our income is in decline .
The crazy change to payment at the stadium along with those who will not put monies into the Yanks pockets don't help.in the meanwhile have
we seen the price of season tickets increase greatly?
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Huw Jenkins
at 16:00 21 Jun 2024

Luadrup would have taken us to the Europa league final and possibly won it.
The decision to force Monk onto Luadrup as a coach was a huge error ....we were lucky Luadrup didn't take us for constructive dismissal he would certainly have had a case. Issue was the board and certain players were worried of pur PL status whilst ML was focused on Europe.....imagine had we won it...
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Robert Page
at 10:35 21 Jun 2024

The expected fans choice though I'd be surprised if that we're to happen.
So what other names will be thrown into the ring?
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Huw Jenkins
at 09:54 21 Jun 2024

Yes someone sugested that over on one-of the other sites yesterday
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Steve Cooper to Leicester???
at 09:52 21 Jun 2024

What did Martin achieve? Unlike his predecessor he failed to get us in the top 6.

That end of season run that got us to within 6 points of the top six showed we had the squad to do better than we had due to the managers stubbornness...had he adopted the same tactics and style of play from the seasons start we may have even got promoted.

But yes we have deeper problems which hopefully are being corrected time will tell but Martin cannot be classed in the same league as Cooper for his time here
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Huw Jenkins
at 09:45 21 Jun 2024

Yes another of Sir Huwberks great decisions to first force Garry Monk onto Laudrup as coach and then replace Laudrup with Monk!!!!
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Lee Nicholls Interest
at 15:40 16 Jun 2024

Di we really want yet another MK Dons keeper....didnt we learn from the last time?
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Jerry Yates interest
at 11:23 3 Jun 2024

Martin thought the same about Whitaker
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