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Reply | Nickname For Bournemouth Fans
at 23:52 17 Feb 2025
As Pompadour was synonymous with Pink of all shades throughout the 18th and 19th centuries and people who wore pink were nicknamed accordingly, what shade it was really doesn't matter. Now, as this is becoming tedious for everyone on here, this is the last time I'm going to bother replying to one of your posts. |
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Reply | Does Juric want to be here next season?
at 23:23 17 Feb 2025
Recent Championship champions and their managers. Whose profile would be a good fit in to this list? That's what we should be looking for.
2023/24 Leicester Enzo Maresca
2022/23 Burnley Vincent Kompany
2021/22 Fulham Marco Silva
2020/21 Norwich Daniel Farke
2019/20 Leeds Marcelo Bielsa
2018/19 Norwich Daniel Farke
2017/18 Wolves Nuno Espirito Santo
2016/17 Newcastle Rafael Benitez |
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Reply | Nickname For Bournemouth Fans
at 21:11 17 Feb 2025
Go to the original sources: newspapers, letters etc, not hearsay about them. It's the only way you can do serious historical research. The Pompey Pinks were references to the Portsmouth team in newspaper match reports. I've read the original reports. You haven't and don't want to change your mind, so you won't and this argument with you and 130 is just getting very boring now.
From The Hampshire Post and Southsea Observer, September 1899:
"Sandy Brown cleverly headed the ball into the net, amid enthusiastic cheering. Play continued in favour of the Pompey Pinks until Brown was penalised for a foul; and the Brighton men got smartly away, McArthur finishing up with a long shot"
Newspaper reports are full of slang and nicknames and if Pompey had been used as a nickname for the city by sailors before 1899, there would have been hundreds if not thousands of references in the tens of thousands of newspapers published before then. Unfortunately, history gets changed retrospectively so unless you go to the original source material, you will believe whatever modern writers want you to believe happened. But, if you are really privy to what illiterate men were supposedly saying below decks more than 125 years ago, you're a better time traveller than I am.
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Reply | Nickname For Bournemouth Fans
at 13:04 17 Feb 2025
" the Essex regiment ie nothing to do with Portsmouth"
The 56th West Essex Regiment of Foot, which became the Essex Regiment as part of the Childers Reforms of 1881, was based in barracks in Portsmouth in the 1860s so they had quite a lot to do with it.
As for the Portsmouth trams, in the 1890s, they were green and cream, brown and cream and red and white. None of them were pink.
How old are you? Your childish posts look like they're written by a conceited teenager. [Post edited 17 Feb 14:28]
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Reply | Nickname For Bournemouth Fans
at 11:15 17 Feb 2025
All research shows there is no written record of the use of Pompey as a nickname for the city before the 20th century. Not a single book or newspaper published in the 19th century refers to it as such. You can research the British Newspaper Archives for 1800-1899, including the Portsmouth Times and Naval Gazette, the Hampshire Post and Southsea Observer, the Portsmouth Evening Post and every other newspaper and in all those thousands of newspapers there isn't a single reference to Pompey as a nickname for the city. However, it appears regularly as a nickname for the new football club in newspaper match reports from 1899 onwards, which sometimes also refer to them as "Pompey Pinks" .
I've no doubt the nickname Pompey was used for Portmouth when you were in the navy, unless you are more than 100 years old, but it came from the football club before that, and their Pompadour Pink shirts.
As for your concern that it might make Portsmouth look like 'bunch of sissies', you've no need to worry because in the nineteenth century and even the early 20th, pink was regarded as a masculine or neutral colour, which is why it featured in military uniforms. It didn't become regarded as a feminine colour until as recently as the 1940s. Again this is easily verifiable.
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Reply | Nickname For Bournemouth Fans
at 10:34 17 Feb 2025
It certainly looks like you've been swallowing nonsense and Portsmyths. There is no recorded use of Pompey to describe the city of Portsmouth until the 20th century. The first use of Pompey as a nickname for any orgnisation in Portsmouth was in the 19th century and it was for a regiment based there, the 56th West Essex Regiment of Foot, which had Pompadour Pink uniform facings and so were first nicknamed the Pompadours and then the Saucy Pompeys. The football club adopted the same colours in 1898 and so became nicknamed Pompey. The football club's nickname then transferred to also become a general nickname for the city.
The name 'Pompey' dates back more than 2000 years. It was a proper name used in the Roman Empire, but its connection to the football club's nickname is merely coincidental. [Post edited 17 Feb 18:12]
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Reply | Nickname For Bournemouth Fans
at 14:49 16 Feb 2025
You try reading it. You'll be even more upset.
Pompey refers to their traditonal colours, which were Pompadour Pink (pink with maroon trimming). It wasn't an original nickname though as a regiment based in Portsmouth during the 19th century, the 56th West Essex Regiment of Foot, had a Pompadour Pink uniform and were first nicknamed the Pompadours and then the Saucy Pompeys. The football club just copied them. Football club nicknames in that era commonly referred to team colours, like the Clarets, the Lillywhites, Sky Blues etc.
When the orginal PFC went bust in 1911, the new club that replaced them, adopted a new blue strip to show they weren't connected to the orginal club with its Pompadour Pink strip (and its debts). But, the Pompey nickname carried over. They were also known as the Shrimps but that name didn't carry over.
https://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/regtnicknames.html |
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Reply | Interesting crowd reaction to 2 substitutions
at 13:49 16 Feb 2025
Were you at the game? I didn't see anger directed at Smallbone; I saw cheering for a much-needed positive substitution from Juric at last.
Should the fans just accept poor standards? Unfortunately, that has gone on at our club for far too long, which is why we've ended up with a core of players, like McCarthy, Stephens, Bednarek and Smallbone, who are simply not good enough, hanging around for years. I don't think any other top flight club would have allowed that to happen. |
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Reply | Protest
at 13:04 16 Feb 2025
The owners don't want things to go badly, but they have got things badly wrong. They probably wanted their football club to succeed as much as we do and are just as keen as we are for things to improve. So, what is it that you want from them?
A/ To perform better?
B/ To sell the club
Would a protest make them perform better? It would certainly alienate them. It might put them under more pressure to try harder. I'm not sure they've got any more money to spend.
How do we know that new owners, if they can find any, would be any better? You could argue that they couldn't be any worse, but we really don't know that.
So, yes, an initial meeting with a cross-section of fan representatives might be the best first step. If you really believe that we will get better owners, then protests should follow.
As for fans not turning up, that reduces funds available for the club and forces them to sell more players although any player worth keeping (not that there are many of them) will probably want to leave this summer anyway. It also sends a message to any prospective new owners that we are fickle, apathetic fans.
Newcastle fans' approach was the best. They turned up to games, but had well organised protests (with placards). Just staying away is apathy, which is easy and is probably going to happen anyway. [Post edited 16 Feb 13:18]
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Reply | Interesting crowd reaction to 2 substitutions
at 00:52 16 Feb 2025
Smallbone was not jeered. There was a cheer (not a jeer) for the substitution because Juric had finally seen sense and replaced him with Dibling. Smallbone is a League One level player getting selected to start in a Premier League game in a crucial position in the centre of midfield. That's ridiculous and the fault lies with the manager for doing it. If Juric was any good as a manager he would have seen enough of him now to know that playing him in a game like this was sheer stupidity and that it would end any chance we had of getting a result. Everyone else in the stadium knew that so why didn't he? Maybe he's so slow on the uptake that he needed a crowd reaction like that to make him aware. [Post edited 16 Feb 0:58]
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Reply | Nickname For Bournemouth Fans
at 21:07 15 Feb 2025
No, it's a fact.
Pompey refers to their traditonal colours, which were Pompadour Pink (pink with maroon trimming). It wasn't an original nickname though as a regiment based in Portsmouth during the 19th century, the 56th West Essex Regiment of Foot, had a Pompadour Pink uniform and were first nicknamed the Pompadours and then the Saucy Pompeys. The football club just copied them. Football club nicknames in that era commonly referred to team colours, like the Clarets, the Lillywhites, Sky Blues etc.
When the orginal PFC went bust in 1911, the new club that replaced them, adopted a new blue strip to show they weren't connected to the orginal club with its Pompadour Pink strip (and its debts). But, the Pompey nickname carried over. They were also known as the Shrimps but that name didn't carry over.
https://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/regtnicknames.html [Post edited 15 Feb 21:17]
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Reply | Charly Alcaraz
at 20:57 15 Feb 2025
He's too good for our current team. |
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Reply | Happy Shiny People
at 20:35 15 Feb 2025
We started to become happy when Smallbone was subbed. His substitution was greeted by a huge cheer and it seemed to lift the whole team as well as the crowd. After that, for a while in the second half, the atmosphere was great, the team was having a real go at Bournemouth and when we scored, the Bournemouth fans fell silent and looked worried, and it really felt like we might get a draw. The 3rd Bournemouth goal was a killer, but the final score was not as bad as we'd anticipated. I thought if we lose by less than 3-0 today, I'll not be unhappy, and when they went 2-0 up, it looked like it might be much worse than that.
We fans make the most of the small scraps of comfort we get this season. To be honest though, I was cold and miserable walking away from the stadium.
I'll be back next week dreaming of a draw but accepting that anything other than a heavy defeat won't be too bad by our team's standards this season. It will be a huge boost to everyone, except the opposition, if Smallbone doesn't appear. He seems to drain all of the life out of our midfield as well as our fans.
Juric is proving himself to be a complete and utter idiot by picking him. Why can't he see what everyone else can? Anyway, the fact we got most of the second half without him, was a cause for some small happiness. [Post edited 15 Feb 21:03]
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Reply | Southampton V Bournemouth The Preview
at 11:25 15 Feb 2025
Well, that's good news. If only we could get Talovyerov from Plymouth, what an upgrade that would be, but I expect he'll go to Everton. |
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Reply | Nickname For Bournemouth Fans
at 11:11 15 Feb 2025
For many years Bournemouth were the second team for most Saints fans, although now that Bournemouth have become more successful and their fans more antagonistic towards us, Eastleigh seem to have taken over that role. It's still hard to build up a real dislike for Bournemouth though. |
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