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Reply | "By far the most challenging season of my career!”
at 16:38 17 Mar 2025
Ha!
I think it would be worth collating publicly the questions sent in to the "Football Panel". That way we can all compare what was answered with what we know wasn't - it would be in its own way quite revealing. Plus it gives a tiny bit of leverage back to fans. But maybe on its own thread. |
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Reply | "By far the most challenging season of my career!”
at 16:17 17 Mar 2025
The "ITK" stuff is neither here nor there. It may annoy, but objectively you either think it and the sources ring true or not. If you know the truth of something you can disprove or ignore them. We can't.
The only way to clear away conspiracies or rumours is to shine a light on everything, to be open with loyal fans as much as is practical. Whatever anyone thought of the Ferdinand, Hoos, Warburton axis, I think they got open communication pretty much spot on. They all let us in two or three times a year, sometimes together, sometimes apart. They faced up when it was tough, too. They were self-respecting adults about it.
Nourry could kill every rumour, every ITK stone dead with a proper, in-person, unfiltered Fans Forum with Cifuentes and himself. That he doesn't tells me everything. That he chooses to instead present a "Football Panel" whereby our head coach shares a platform with seven others including the Head of Methodology, Head of Performance Services and Head of Women’s Operations to answer vetted questions before an audience of just scholars and the women's team before edited answers are shared on "channels" should tell all more than any ITK rumour. It's laughably, transparently controlling. With due respect to everyone else on the panel, let's hear from the head coach and the recruitment on one panel please, the academy, methodology etc on another, and the women's on their own. It's insulting to think he believes fans really buy this nonsense. |
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Reply | "By far the most challenging season of my career!”
at 10:46 17 Mar 2025
Well, it was said by Nourry. We'd all love to ask Cifuentes about that, about the squad he wants, about all kinds of things in fact - but Nourry won't allow that to happen unless he vets the answers.
You have to be able to draw a conclusion from that. |
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Reply | "By far the most challenging season of my career!”
at 17:58 16 Mar 2025
He doesn't like a whinge though, does he? We do know that, we have the evidence of almost all his interviews I can think of. He's been largely uncomplaining throughout his time here, despite all kinds of adversity. He never really makes excuses and his mentality is always really forward-facing and supportive of his players.
Here he is simply saying this has been by far the hardest season of his career - he'd know. And he adds that it's not just about results. Anybody who's watched us regularly this season knows there's something wrong at the club, at a sporting level. At the very least, this is arguably the least well-balanced squad we've had since being relegated a decade ago. And we know who always takes the credit publicly for every signing.
Fundamentally, I disagree. I want them to air their dirty laundry. This is our club. I want to know what's happening. Because they'll be gone soon enough and we'll be left with the mess once more, wondering how it's happened under noses again. |
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Reply | "By far the most challenging season of my career!”
at 17:37 16 Mar 2025
Yeah, had missed that. Pathetic, insulting. The only person you need to hear from is Cifuentes, plus Belk and Nourry at a push - but all together, in a room, with an audience. Let's hear the choir all singing together.
Embarrassing, really. Being that controlling is just so weak and unconfident, isn't it? Some time in the future, when he's left. we'll hear the true story from Marti. Make or break six months for Nourry, I reckon. |
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Reply | "By far the most challenging season of my career!”
at 16:31 16 Mar 2025
Never did get that fans forum with him, did we? They've kept him at arm's length for a reason. I suspect we will soon enough learn who's a more valuable asset, Nourry or Cifuentes. |
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Thread | "By far the most challenging season of my career!”
at 09:21 16 Mar 2025
Saw this on the way to the game, Cifuentes describing how difficult the season's been, "not just the results", but "things the fans don't see" - particularly the last few weeks.
Interesting that he thinks this has been "by far" harder than taking over one of the worst teams I can remember last season.
Seems significant. I wonder what's been happening - and I wonder where that leaves him for next season.
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Reply | Eze back in England squad
at 12:52 14 Mar 2025
He's in brilliant form - have you seen him recently?
He'd massively improve both the Spurs and Man U current squads. (I mean, Palace are above both those teams! I wouldn't trust either manager with him, rather than other way round). He'd also improve Arsenal at the moment. If you've watched any of these teams' recent games or Palace that much is painfully obvious. Arsenal should've bought Olise last summer - same with Eze (and Mateta) this. Eze absolutely deserves a top six move. |
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Reply | No. 10
at 12:53 10 Mar 2025
Roy Wegerle
John Byrne
Adel Taraabt
Ebere Eze
All pretty worthy tens in the lineage of Marsh, Bowles and possibly more mercurial, game-changing players than Gallen in the ten role (as much as I love him).
And I reckon Chair will be viewed in the future as also a great QPR ten, not his fault it's in a fairly rubbish team. He's not playing behind Clive Allen - or anyone really - but is still responsible for the most assists this season despite being injured for half of it.
There'll be more great QPR number tens. More worried there won't be any great QPR number 9s in the lineage of Givens, Allen, Bannister, Ferdinand, Furlong, Austin... |
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Reply | Time to play our own
at 12:58 7 Mar 2025
I can think of three important debut loans for QPR players that predate that (but can't think of others):
Alan McDonald 1983 (9 games for Charlton)
Les Ferdinand 1988 (month at Brentford, season at Besiktas)
Danny Dichio 1994 (Two months at Barnet) |
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Reply | Time to play our own
at 17:34 4 Mar 2025
"And I can distinguish between players we own and loan players: very different situations."
What is the difference between a loan player whose deal runs out in June (let's call him Ronnie Edwards) and a contracted player (let's call him Steve Cook) whose deal runs out in June? Let's imagine they are on similar deals. Who is more likely to be playing next season for QPR? Be honest. You don't know. I don't know. Pick from the fit players available.
Liam Morrison, meanwhile, had surgery in September, came back in November, sustained a hip injury that kept him for six weeks a month later. He's been back training for a month. I'm not a physio or sports scientist of your pedigree, but I imagine that is in everybody's mind as they ease him back with minutes from the bench here and there.
It should also be noted that Morrison had a long spell injured at Bayern, too, and at Wigan - both muscle injuries too. So maybe just rushing him back from a second long injury at QPR in his first season when we have a fit loan player in his place may not be the best idea.
Just another weird theory for you. |
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Reply | Time to play our own
at 13:04 4 Mar 2025
"This thread is about...". Come on, it's a conversation on a messageboard about a ludricrous proposition that nobody at QPR is going to entertain anyway. Humour us!
A player on loan until June is the same as a player out of contract in June. Why make these weird rules that don't apply?
And the best care of a right footed CB who is coming back from surgery having already spent several months out injured may not be playing him at left CB with a similarly recently returned and still somewhat ginger CB.
Let's hope you're right, and in four matches time those odds remain 200/1. |
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Reply | Time to play our own
at 12:24 4 Mar 2025
Pick your eleven for Saturday from the players you *know* are here next season then and who are not out injured, ie Field or Kolli, please.
Bear in mind, too, 51 points were required to stay up last season and QPR are currently on 44, -3 goals, with eleven games left (including Leeds, Burnley home, and WBA, Sunderland, Boro away). |
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Reply | Time to play our own
at 11:40 4 Mar 2025
"off the top of my head"! I'd have to do a bit of research, just off to try and earn a living but will return.
ps. we don't know which of our current loanees are truly just loanees, nor which of our out of contract players are out the door players. Play your best team... |
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Reply | Time to play our own
at 11:27 4 Mar 2025
This is a mental thread. My season ticket is for the current season so can I watch the players in the squad now please? We might be dead before 25/26.
Play the best players you have at your disposal every week, for every match - form and fitness permitting. That's what managers should always do.
Two thirds of the squad are out of contract in three months and nobody here can know whether Steve Cook, Kenny Paal or Michi Frey are any more likely to be QPR players than Koki Saito or Ronnie Edwards in August. Should we just not play any of them? Who's playing left back against Leeds, then?
QPR have had some pretty grim March/April results in the past - do we just write these months off with the U23s and hope that we don't really still need two or three wins. (We need two or three wins).
AND there are many many many QPR loan players I have enjoyed watching and felt more affection for than most of the QPR signed squad members they played with.
Off the top of my head, here's a QPR loanee team, all of whom I enjoyed watching and who were in several cases much loveable than the QPR players they joined. Some only played a few games, some signed at the end of their loan, some saved the team from certain relegation, some helped us to glory...
Here, this team would hand our current team its arse:
Lee Camp
Kyle Walker
Danny Shittu
Darren Ward
Mark Kennedy
Stefan Johanson
Niko Krancjar
Ravel Morrison
Lee Cook
Adel Taarabt
Heidar Helguson
Subs
Nahki Wells
Inigo Idiakez
Andros Townsend
Michael Mancienne
Jerome Thomas
Geoff Cameron
Jimmy Smith |
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Reply | QPR finances released
at 12:07 23 Feb 2025
This is the biggest myth in football. Even if we had 40k in every other week and a huge nightclub filled to the brim on site five nights a week and rented out office space or whatever, we'd still need owners to pour money in. Even if we doubled the attendance at the very best it's worth another £5 million a year, ie a month off for Reuben.
The PL clubs, with all those packed grounds charging all that money, with all that TV money, lost a combined £1bn last year.
Only four league clubs across all four divisions made any profits in the last set of accounts, three of those were less that £250k and only Brentford made profits in the millions and that was just £4.5 million- probably enough to pay Carvalho's wage for less than a season. Two of the clubs in profit are two with the smallest grounds in Prem, Bournemouth and Brentford. Two of of the biggest brand names with huge grounds made some of the biggest loses, Chelsea and Man U.
Only two things can improve a club's finances:
Selling players for sums which are significantly larger than what you've spent on them.
Reducing wages (not happening while nations states buy clubs and Saudi are growing their league).
Hold on to the ground at all costs. It's the only tangible thing QPR has, and the iceberg is coming towards English football. |
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Reply | Just when it all seemed to be gong.so well
at 07:37 11 Feb 2025
WTF has Miriam Margolis comparing Jews to Nazis got to do with QPR?!
Please, someone lock this thread. I beg you. My family were various murdered or made refugees in the Holocaust. I come here to read about QPR. I accidentally, sleepily clicked on this this morning and whatever your opinion made from your armchair in the West is, it is too nuanced for anonymous debate made up of old clips of cranky 80-something actresses sitting in their Australian living rooms and then repurposed for whatever reason you have here.
If you wanna go debate about the Middle East and/or Israel's right to exist, if you wanna compare Jews to Nazis (which is AS) then there are many other places to do so on the Internet I am sure other than QPR messageboards.
I come here to argue about Michi Frey and Christian Nourry. This is all revolting nonsense. |
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Reply | Frey
at 17:08 7 Feb 2025
Without getting all "Lassel" on the thread.
Players salaries are widely known in football. There are no secrets. Wages are declared to everyone from agents to letting agents, leaked from many sources. They are absolutely in circulation if you know who to ask (I don't: football websites might). Christian Nourry can no more control that than Gianni Paladini.
I saw Frey's through a totally different (and completely flukey) source, one that is 100% authenticated and I have absolutely no business knowing what he earns! I'm about 100 people removed from the source. He's on more than that website suggests. |
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Reply | Frey
at 15:58 7 Feb 2025
Let's imagine that those sums are correct (Frey's is conservative)...
Let's also assume that these do not include the new contracts for Chair, Morgan, Lloyd.
I don't think, if you look at everyone's wages on that list, that there is a remote possibility that Nourry and co will renew Cook, Fox and Frey unless they come down in half at least. Fox and Frey are on twice as much as Field, Dunne, Smyth etc according to this. And Cook is on twice as much as either Frey or Fox. And they're all over 30 and they've all had injuries this season and last.
I'm not sure Marcus Rashford is a necessarily a realistic benchmark either. I think Dembele being on 178k and Nardi being on 780k is closer to the range we will shop in. |
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