| Juric 20:29 - Jan 25 with 2350 views | grumpy |
He seems to be all over the place at the moment,his team selections and subs confuse me.
Am I being too harsh?
To be honest I think I am losing the plot this season.
How our season ticket holders feel I dread to think. |  | | |  |
| Juric on 20:43 - Jan 25 with 1569 views | Southamptonfan |
Every manager is all over the place at Saints. The club is toxic. Each manager desperately scrambles to find an impossible winning formula and then starts doing stupid things in panic and desperation. Just for comparison, Selles did a fantastic job at Reading and was appointed at Hull. He is again doing a fantastic job there having won at top of the league Sheffield United last night 3 nil and is on his way to saving them. Hassenhutle is 7th in the German league with Wolfsburg, a club who regularly fight relegation. Juric was appointed by Roma, one of the biggest clubs in the world because he has been successful at other clubs. I don't know how many times we can keep blaming managers, who only seem to be exceptionally bad here, and then expecting the same people at the very top, who are making this club toxic, to turn things around, with yet another appointment that doesn't work. [Post edited 25 Jan 20:45]
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| Juric on 20:45 - Jan 25 with 1559 views | DorsetIan |
In my opinion, he's had an easy ride from the fans.
His results are worse than Martin's so that is saying something.
But he doesn't play robot football like Martin did, so he's being given a pass on how appalling his results are.
We've concended 17 goals in the 6 games he's managed. Got no points. And have thrown away a 1-0 lead in half of those games.
'All over the place' is spot on. | |
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| Juric on 20:46 - Jan 25 with 1551 views | Southamptonfan |
| Juric on 20:45 - Jan 25 by DorsetIan |
In my opinion, he's had an easy ride from the fans.
His results are worse than Martin's so that is saying something.
But he doesn't play robot football like Martin did, so he's being given a pass on how appalling his results are.
We've concended 17 goals in the 6 games he's managed. Got no points. And have thrown away a 1-0 lead in half of those games.
'All over the place' is spot on. |
So change again? We still only have 2 goals a season Armstrong up front, whether you change the manager or not.
Selles and Ralph were also described in similar terms. But they arnt all.over the place at other clubs, just at Saints. Do you not question that just possibly the problems are higher up? [Post edited 25 Jan 20:49]
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| Juric on 20:50 - Jan 25 with 1530 views | grumpy |
| Juric on 20:46 - Jan 25 by Southamptonfan |
So change again? We still only have 2 goals a season Armstrong up front, whether you change the manager or not.
Selles and Ralph were also described in similar terms. But they arnt all.over the place at other clubs, just at Saints. Do you not question that just possibly the problems are higher up? [Post edited 25 Jan 20:49]
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Would you keep Juric if he didn't win another Premiership game? | | | |
| Juric on 20:57 - Jan 25 with 1511 views | saintwizzler |
No point changing the manager for someone no better.
In hindsight we may as well of stuck with Hasenhüttl instead of Jones and saved the club millions.
The Juric appointment sums up Sport Republic.
Cheap. |  |
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| Juric on 20:59 - Jan 25 with 1508 views | Southamptonfan |
| Juric on 20:50 - Jan 25 by grumpy |
Would you keep Juric if he didn't win another Premiership game? |
I'm not sure he would be the right manager to bring us back up next season in the championship, and I expect he will go in the summer, especially if we keep losing, which we will, because we are far inferior to the opposition every week. But what will this board and ownership do? They will appoint another Russel Martin won't they, from a mid table club in the championship or some up.and coming coach from league one.
But the point remains, it doesn't matter who manages us with this team. They just arnt good enough. We won't ever win games, if we struggle to score and make mistakes every match against world class players. You get punished and then have no chance. | |
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| Juric on 21:00 - Jan 25 with 1502 views | DorsetIan |
| Juric on 20:46 - Jan 25 by Southamptonfan |
So change again? We still only have 2 goals a season Armstrong up front, whether you change the manager or not.
Selles and Ralph were also described in similar terms. But they arnt all.over the place at other clubs, just at Saints. Do you not question that just possibly the problems are higher up? [Post edited 25 Jan 20:49]
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What is the point of keeping a manager who keeps losing and who has made the results worse?
Yes, the club is a complete sh!tshow, the squad is not PL standard and those in charge are clearly idiots.
But that doesn't mean every manager is as bad as the next.
And we should keep binning them until we find one that can actually do a job in the PL.
Football is a simple game and if you keep losing as a manager you should get sacked. | |
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| Juric on 21:08 - Jan 25 with 1478 views | Southamptonfan |
| Juric on 21:00 - Jan 25 by DorsetIan |
What is the point of keeping a manager who keeps losing and who has made the results worse?
Yes, the club is a complete sh!tshow, the squad is not PL standard and those in charge are clearly idiots.
But that doesn't mean every manager is as bad as the next.
And we should keep binning them until we find one that can actually do a job in the PL.
Football is a simple game and if you keep losing as a manager you should get sacked. |
The point of keeping the manager is that it costs millions to keep sacking them. Was it worth the 10 million it cost to sack Martin, to continue losing and be relegated anyway? You can't just keep sacking managers, onto the next, it costs money!
If the club is a sh!tshow as you rightly say and the squad is not PL standard as you rightly say, do you not think every manager is being set up to fail? Why don't you want the "idiots" as you put it, out? Why just the manager? If we didn't have idiots at the very top, we wouldn't keep having to sack managers as they would make the right appointment, get the recruitment right and put PL players on the pitch? Is that not logical? | |
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| Juric on 21:13 - Jan 25 with 1445 views | saintwizzler |
We need a manager for the long run.
Not someone who can go at the end of the season if he wants.
Steve Cooper or Danny Rohl fit the bill.
Cooper who has experience of the top 2 leagues and has something to prove.
Danny Rohl again, experienced and up and coming who must want out of Sheff Wed.
But I don’t trust Sport Republic one bit.
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| Juric on 21:16 - Jan 25 with 1438 views | felly1 |
| Juric on 20:43 - Jan 25 by Southamptonfan |
Every manager is all over the place at Saints. The club is toxic. Each manager desperately scrambles to find an impossible winning formula and then starts doing stupid things in panic and desperation. Just for comparison, Selles did a fantastic job at Reading and was appointed at Hull. He is again doing a fantastic job there having won at top of the league Sheffield United last night 3 nil and is on his way to saving them. Hassenhutle is 7th in the German league with Wolfsburg, a club who regularly fight relegation. Juric was appointed by Roma, one of the biggest clubs in the world because he has been successful at other clubs. I don't know how many times we can keep blaming managers, who only seem to be exceptionally bad here, and then expecting the same people at the very top, who are making this club toxic, to turn things around, with yet another appointment that doesn't work. [Post edited 25 Jan 20:45]
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Spot on .
Can't believe anyone would think another manager could get a tune out this squad.
I actually feel sorry for both players and managers, they all look shell-shocked and are desperate.
The incompetent recruitment has royally shafted them and left them out high and dry as they flounder in a league that's way above most them ability wise. | | | |
| Juric on 21:18 - Jan 25 with 1431 views | Avior |
I don’t think he is great but I can see what he is trying to do, he just does not have players to do it. At one point today at about 75 mins I saw him look along the line at the subs who were warming up, grimace and then turn away. He obviously thought what’s the point they are all as bad as each other. | | | |
| Juric on 21:48 - Jan 25 with 1370 views | DorsetIan |
| Juric on 21:18 - Jan 25 by Avior |
I don’t think he is great but I can see what he is trying to do, he just does not have players to do it. At one point today at about 75 mins I saw him look along the line at the subs who were warming up, grimace and then turn away. He obviously thought what’s the point they are all as bad as each other. |
I think you might be projecting a bit there.
Could easily have just been a bit of trapped wind. | |
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| Juric on 21:53 - Jan 25 with 1363 views | DorsetIan |
| Juric on 21:08 - Jan 25 by Southamptonfan |
The point of keeping the manager is that it costs millions to keep sacking them. Was it worth the 10 million it cost to sack Martin, to continue losing and be relegated anyway? You can't just keep sacking managers, onto the next, it costs money!
If the club is a sh!tshow as you rightly say and the squad is not PL standard as you rightly say, do you not think every manager is being set up to fail? Why don't you want the "idiots" as you put it, out? Why just the manager? If we didn't have idiots at the very top, we wouldn't keep having to sack managers as they would make the right appointment, get the recruitment right and put PL players on the pitch? Is that not logical? |
I'd like better owners, obviously.
But for as long as these clowns are here, I want them to keep trying to find the right guy.
It's not my problem that they keep losing millions by appointing duff managers.
They keep gambling on people without the right credentials. Don't gamble if you can't afford to lose your money.
If they'd got in someone decent when Ralph left instead of gambling on a mentalist, things might not be so bleak now. | |
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| Juric on 22:38 - Jan 25 with 1272 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Juric on 21:48 - Jan 25 by DorsetIan |
I think you might be projecting a bit there.
Could easily have just been a bit of trapped wind. |
Nah, that was Smallbone  |  | | |
| Juric on 23:07 - Jan 25 with 1231 views | Gennaro_Contaldo |
It is harsh to judge Juric and his team selections as he has a load of dross to choose from.
He brought on 800 year old Lallana, Smallbone, Archer, etc - these are not game-changers in the top 2 leagues.
The squad is fkn rubbish. Mostly built by Martin, but it's been getting worse and worse for years now.
No, I don't blame Juric. I feel sorry for the guy really. |  |
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| Juric on 23:12 - Jan 25 with 1223 views | DorsetIan |
| Juric on 23:07 - Jan 25 by Gennaro_Contaldo |
It is harsh to judge Juric and his team selections as he has a load of dross to choose from.
He brought on 800 year old Lallana, Smallbone, Archer, etc - these are not game-changers in the top 2 leagues.
The squad is fkn rubbish. Mostly built by Martin, but it's been getting worse and worse for years now.
No, I don't blame Juric. I feel sorry for the guy really. |
You're getting soft.
We're not a charity for Serie A rejects. | |
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| Juric on 23:14 - Jan 25 with 1215 views | JoeEgg |
| Juric on 23:07 - Jan 25 by Gennaro_Contaldo |
It is harsh to judge Juric and his team selections as he has a load of dross to choose from.
He brought on 800 year old Lallana, Smallbone, Archer, etc - these are not game-changers in the top 2 leagues.
The squad is fkn rubbish. Mostly built by Martin, but it's been getting worse and worse for years now.
No, I don't blame Juric. I feel sorry for the guy really. |
I have to agree.
Look along the line of substitutes at the start of the game and you just cringe - they wouldn't win a game in Division 1 never mind the Championship. We are at rock bottom and a laughing stock. | | | |
| Juric on 00:35 - Jan 26 with 1132 views | dirk_doone |
Sometimes one decision that's so stupid that you lose all faith in a manager does it for me, and that happened today when he brought Smallbone on for Ugochukwu, who was full of running and our best player. Smallbone???? He can't run, he can't tackle. He just ambles around like Little Boy Lost, doing nothing. Juric has seen him play a couple of times already now and he should know that by now. I realized then that Juric really doesn't know what he's doing. [Post edited 26 Jan 0:36]
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| Juric on 10:23 - Jan 26 with 866 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Juric on 21:53 - Jan 25 by DorsetIan |
I'd like better owners, obviously.
But for as long as these clowns are here, I want them to keep trying to find the right guy.
It's not my problem that they keep losing millions by appointing duff managers.
They keep gambling on people without the right credentials. Don't gamble if you can't afford to lose your money.
If they'd got in someone decent when Ralph left instead of gambling on a mentalist, things might not be so bleak now. |
Agree, but if the money they keep losing (how bottomless is their pit?) maybe they will realise that the Premier league is not what they thought it was and sell us to the highest bidder?
But who's to say they'd be any different? | | | |
| Juric on 10:33 - Jan 26 with 842 views | PatfromPoole |
| Juric on 00:35 - Jan 26 by dirk_doone |
Sometimes one decision that's so stupid that you lose all faith in a manager does it for me, and that happened today when he brought Smallbone on for Ugochukwu, who was full of running and our best player. Smallbone???? He can't run, he can't tackle. He just ambles around like Little Boy Lost, doing nothing. Juric has seen him play a couple of times already now and he should know that by now. I realized then that Juric really doesn't know what he's doing. [Post edited 26 Jan 0:36]
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Aye, that substitution made no sense.
As with a number Juric has made.
Martin was no better when it came to substitutions.
It's a pretty key attribute for a manager, to be able to improve the way a game is going with substitutions.
Struggling to think of a manager we have had since Koeman who was any good at this. |  |
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| Juric on 10:40 - Jan 26 with 821 views | DorsetIan |
| Juric on 10:33 - Jan 26 by PatfromPoole |
Aye, that substitution made no sense.
As with a number Juric has made.
Martin was no better when it came to substitutions.
It's a pretty key attribute for a manager, to be able to improve the way a game is going with substitutions.
Struggling to think of a manager we have had since Koeman who was any good at this. |
One of the biggest criticism of Ralph. Would make them far too late and often go for the weird over the like for like swap. | |
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| Juric on 11:16 - Jan 26 with 748 views | City_boy |
Many of the issues surrounding substitutions and trying to pick the best 11, emanates from the depth of quality and consistency throughout the squad.
We bring a player on as a substitute , (and this goes for many of them), and some play well and they force their way into starting 11 for next game, they then play like a donkey. It's no wonder, Juric has issues, picking his best team, when they are so inconsistent and unreliable.
There is not a single player in this squad, that has delivered 3 good performances on the spin. (Ramsdale is probably the only exception). [Post edited 26 Jan 11:20]
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| Juric on 11:21 - Jan 26 with 733 views | dirk_doone |
| Juric on 11:16 - Jan 26 by City_boy |
Many of the issues surrounding substitutions and trying to pick the best 11, emanates from the depth of quality and consistency throughout the squad.
We bring a player on as a substitute , (and this goes for many of them), and some play well and they force their way into starting 11 for next game, they then play like a donkey. It's no wonder, Juric has issues, picking his best team, when they are so inconsistent and unreliable.
There is not a single player in this squad, that has delivered 3 good performances on the spin. (Ramsdale is probably the only exception). [Post edited 26 Jan 11:20]
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"Many of the issues surrounding substations and trying to pick the best 11, emirates from the depth of quality and consistency throughout the squad."
You're not sending this message from Arsenal tube station, by any chance, are you? | |
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| Juric on 11:32 - Jan 26 with 699 views | City_boy |
| Juric on 11:21 - Jan 26 by dirk_doone |
"Many of the issues surrounding substations and trying to pick the best 11, emirates from the depth of quality and consistency throughout the squad."
You're not sending this message from Arsenal tube station, by any chance, are you? |
You're too quick and I shouldn't trust the spell checker on my Mac.  | | | |
| Juric on 11:33 - Jan 26 with 697 views | DoctorSleep |
| Juric on 11:16 - Jan 26 by City_boy |
Many of the issues surrounding substitutions and trying to pick the best 11, emanates from the depth of quality and consistency throughout the squad.
We bring a player on as a substitute , (and this goes for many of them), and some play well and they force their way into starting 11 for next game, they then play like a donkey. It's no wonder, Juric has issues, picking his best team, when they are so inconsistent and unreliable.
There is not a single player in this squad, that has delivered 3 good performances on the spin. (Ramsdale is probably the only exception). [Post edited 26 Jan 11:20]
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Have to disagree - Fernandes puts in a good game time and time again. He is one of the few players who anyone can see is actually trying. Shame he will be gone in the summer. | | | |
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