| Say Nothing 17:17 - Jan 2 with 1173 views | trampie |
Anyone seen 'Say Nothing' it's on Disney plus, I'm not into films, tv etc but I thought it was well made, well acted and that they made a good effort at portraying some of the characters in a 'sensitive' light, whether that was the correct thing to do or not.
I thought it was quite brave of the person who wrote it and the people who made it to put it out there, talk of people going to sue. |  |
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| Say Nothing on 18:19 - Jan 2 with 1116 views | trampie |
Just seen the reviews on IMDb whatever that is, lots of 10/10 ratings, also seen newspaper reviews and the like praising it, but do many people have/watch Disney plus, I only had the channel free due to some banking switch and previously have only watched 'Welcome to Wrexham' on it. | |
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| Say Nothing on 19:39 - Jan 2 with 1062 views | pencoedjack |
Not often I agree or respond to you but an excellent series.
Shows Gerry Adam’s up for what he is. |  | | |
| Say Nothing on 20:28 - Jan 2 with 1030 views | trampie |
| Say Nothing on 19:39 - Jan 2 by pencoedjack |
Not often I agree or respond to you but an excellent series.
Shows Gerry Adam’s up for what he is. |
Lots of people think that Adams and McGuinness were traitors to the Republican cause, did the British turn them i wonder ? | |
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| Say Nothing on 20:34 - Jan 2 with 1018 views | trampie |
I hope that the British never gave the woman that was killed money to spy, that would be absolutely awful if that was the case. | |
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| Say Nothing on 15:43 - Jan 3 with 857 views | trampie |
Will Marian take Disney on ?, she did not take the Murdochs on who apparently owned the publishers or something after threatening to do so.
The justice system is not about innocence or guilt but getting a verdict either for or against, can Disney and their multimillion pound lawyers get away with naming somebody like that, would Marion want it all raked back up by taking it on.
If the author/Disney push her she might get her wig or nuns outfit back out, the might of the British Army had their hands full with her so watch out Disney. [Post edited 3 Jan 15:51]
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| Say Nothing on 10:31 - Jan 4 with 778 views | trampie |
Watched 'I Dolours' on the back of watching 'Say Nothing ', I was surprised that Dolours herself when interviewed said the disappearing of the woman with 10 children was a war crime, some people would say that but I was surprised she said it. | |
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| Say Nothing on 08:21 - Jan 5 with 652 views | Boundy |
| Say Nothing on 10:31 - Jan 4 by trampie |
Watched 'I Dolours' on the back of watching 'Say Nothing ', I was surprised that Dolours herself when interviewed said the disappearing of the woman with 10 children was a war crime, some people would say that but I was surprised she said it. |
"some would say it was a war crime" and the rest? |  |
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| Say Nothing on 08:36 - Jan 5 with 630 views | trampie |
| Say Nothing on 08:21 - Jan 5 by Boundy |
"some would say it was a war crime" and the rest? |
Some would not, the UK for instance still had the death penalty for a certain crime at that time even after they had done away with the death penalty for murder etc. | |
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| Say Nothing on 21:43 - Jan 5 with 504 views | Boundy |
| Say Nothing on 08:36 - Jan 5 by trampie |
Some would not, the UK for instance still had the death penalty for a certain crime at that time even after they had done away with the death penalty for murder etc. |
It wasn't a war crime as the the rest of the UK were not at war with NI, it was murder , murder of an innocent women . | |
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| Say Nothing on 22:48 - Jan 5 with 470 views | trampie |
| Say Nothing on 21:43 - Jan 5 by Boundy |
It wasn't a war crime as the the rest of the UK were not at war with NI, it was murder , murder of an innocent women . |
A lot of people on one side of the divide regarded it as a war but the English led UK state did not want to legitimise it as a war as that would have given the Republican fighters certain rights they did not want them to have.
The whole crux of the matter for a lot of people was was the woman that was killed 'innocent' or not ?, the IRA clearly thought she wasn't innocent and that left them with a problem hence the warning in the first instance. [Post edited 5 Jan 23:21]
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| Say Nothing on 01:32 - Jan 6 with 411 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Say Nothing on 21:43 - Jan 5 by Boundy |
It wasn't a war crime as the the rest of the UK were not at war with NI, it was murder , murder of an innocent women . |
Great to have built peace for most over the last 20 years.
Well done Blair and Clinton and others.
But you cant have it both ways.
If it is a war then the IRA members and others have the right not to be treated as common criminals.
If it is not a war then the shooting of unarmed civilians by British Crown Forces must result in a murder charge if appropriate. Even decades later.
Nobody has the right to take another life whatever side of the struggle you sit on. |  |
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| Say Nothing on 09:28 - Jan 6 with 352 views | Boundy |
| Say Nothing on 22:48 - Jan 5 by trampie |
A lot of people on one side of the divide regarded it as a war but the English led UK state did not want to legitimise it as a war as that would have given the Republican fighters certain rights they did not want them to have.
The whole crux of the matter for a lot of people was was the woman that was killed 'innocent' or not ?, the IRA clearly thought she wasn't innocent and that left them with a problem hence the warning in the first instance. [Post edited 5 Jan 23:21]
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How could any Government have declared war , against who , the vast Catholic population , and if so would any sane person be happy to have an area say the Lenadon bombed by the RAF.
Should the UK Government have declared war on the Protestant population because of the UDA UVF and the many other breakaway terrorist murdering just to maintain the status quo . how about declaring war against the Muslim population in London , how would that work? ISIS aims remains the same a caliphate state created against the will of the majority.
Just to be clear, which woman are you referring to ? if its Jean McConville then say her name and again if so do you condemn her murder for what it was ? | |
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| Say Nothing on 09:50 - Jan 6 with 339 views | trampie |
| Say Nothing on 09:28 - Jan 6 by Boundy |
How could any Government have declared war , against who , the vast Catholic population , and if so would any sane person be happy to have an area say the Lenadon bombed by the RAF.
Should the UK Government have declared war on the Protestant population because of the UDA UVF and the many other breakaway terrorist murdering just to maintain the status quo . how about declaring war against the Muslim population in London , how would that work? ISIS aims remains the same a caliphate state created against the will of the majority.
Just to be clear, which woman are you referring to ? if its Jean McConville then say her name and again if so do you condemn her murder for what it was ? |
They didn't outlaw loyalist paramilitaries until towards the end probably because some of the police and the army were also members of those gangs.
One informant is worth a 100 soldiers or 50 tanks to a military leader, the lives of the insurgents are put at risk by an informant, if they the insurgents are not killed their liberty is put at risk and obviously their cause is put at risk.
Assuming guilt they should have come up with some other plan for her and not death, but as regards the other side yet again assuming guilt if they were paying her knowing what would happen if she got caught and knowing she had been warned then they have blood on their hands also. [Post edited 6 Jan 9:58]
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| Say Nothing on 10:29 - Jan 6 with 319 views | Boundy |
| Say Nothing on 09:50 - Jan 6 by trampie |
They didn't outlaw loyalist paramilitaries until towards the end probably because some of the police and the army were also members of those gangs.
One informant is worth a 100 soldiers or 50 tanks to a military leader, the lives of the insurgents are put at risk by an informant, if they the insurgents are not killed their liberty is put at risk and obviously their cause is put at risk.
Assuming guilt they should have come up with some other plan for her and not death, but as regards the other side yet again assuming guilt if they were paying her knowing what would happen if she got caught and knowing she had been warned then they have blood on their hands also. [Post edited 6 Jan 9:58]
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| Say Nothing on 11:22 - Jan 6 with 278 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Say Nothing on 09:28 - Jan 6 by Boundy |
How could any Government have declared war , against who , the vast Catholic population , and if so would any sane person be happy to have an area say the Lenadon bombed by the RAF.
Should the UK Government have declared war on the Protestant population because of the UDA UVF and the many other breakaway terrorist murdering just to maintain the status quo . how about declaring war against the Muslim population in London , how would that work? ISIS aims remains the same a caliphate state created against the will of the majority.
Just to be clear, which woman are you referring to ? if its Jean McConville then say her name and again if so do you condemn her murder for what it was ? |
If it cannot be a war (a rather strange position perhaps given an uprising is the way many nations escaped the British Empire ?), then you must therefore have a situation where the law of the land applies and the soldiers of the British Crown Forces are held to the same standards as anyone else if they decide to take a life - yes ?
That would be the only logic position for you to take. | |
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| Say Nothing on 11:40 - Jan 6 with 256 views | trampie |
| Say Nothing on 10:29 - Jan 6 by Boundy |
You never answered my questions |
One side called it a war the otherside didn't, the otherside fought a war they called the 'war on terror' that was not against states per se, as Kilkenny says they can't have it both ways if it's a war a lot of the Republican prisoners should have been treated as prisoners of war but if it was not a war then British soldiers (or those giving the orders) in certain circumstances should be up for murder. [Post edited 6 Jan 11:55]
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| Say Nothing on 13:09 - Jan 6 with 201 views | Boundy |
| Say Nothing on 11:40 - Jan 6 by trampie |
One side called it a war the otherside didn't, the otherside fought a war they called the 'war on terror' that was not against states per se, as Kilkenny says they can't have it both ways if it's a war a lot of the Republican prisoners should have been treated as prisoners of war but if it was not a war then British soldiers (or those giving the orders) in certain circumstances should be up for murder. [Post edited 6 Jan 11:55]
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Still not answered so I'm out on, I really can't be bothered to play silly games today | |
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| Say Nothing on 13:11 - Jan 6 with 187 views | trampie |
| Say Nothing on 13:09 - Jan 6 by Boundy |
Still not answered so I'm out on, I really can't be bothered to play silly games today |
What do you want to know ?, I thought I did answer everything. | |
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| Say Nothing on 13:35 - Jan 6 with 168 views | trampie |
And there he is gone, each to their own as they say. | |
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| Say Nothing on 17:11 - Jan 6 with 107 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Say Nothing on 13:35 - Jan 6 by trampie |
And there he is gone, each to their own as they say. |
Cant process the logic mate.
It turns his very simplistic world view upside down.
(Uk = good, everyone else = not so good).
He is much happier watching the Charles Coronation on loop, loves all the union jacks waved by elderly women and , frankly, half wits. 🇬🇧 | |
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| Say Nothing on 17:16 - Jan 6 with 90 views | trampie |
| Say Nothing on 17:11 - Jan 6 by Kilkennyjack |
Cant process the logic mate.
It turns his very simplistic world view upside down.
(Uk = good, everyone else = not so good).
He is much happier watching the Charles Coronation on loop, loves all the union jacks waved by elderly women and , frankly, half wits. 🇬🇧 |
Yes I know buttie.
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