| Ilias Chair 12:55 - Jan 19 with 31989 views | aston_hoop |
What the hell is this all about? stick it on google translate
https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20240119_93571823
Antwerp prosecutor demands two years in prison for star footballer Ilias Chair after fight: “Small man's skull with a large stone”
Ilias Chair, midfielder for the English club Queens Park Rangers, risks two years in prison
Ilias Chair, midfielder of the English club Queens Park Rangers, risks two years in prison — © Offside via Getty Images
ANTWERP -The Antwerp prosecutor has demanded a two-year prison sentence against football international Ilias Chair (26), midfielder for the English club Queens Park Rangers, for involvement in a serious fight in the summer of 2020. “He smashed his victim in the skull with a large stone. ”
Joris van der Aa
Today at 10:54
The facts took place in the summer of 2020, after a kayaking trip that started in the Ardennes and ended in Bazeilles, France. After a long journey, a family from East Flanders arrived at the end of the journey. There were buses ready to take the tired and hungry tourists back to the starting point of the tour.
“While waiting to board the bus, the victims were suddenly passed by a lady in a green bikini and her family. They passed the group and, as it were, demanded to be the first to get on the bus because they had just missed another bus," the prosecutor said. “This led to a discussion with other people who were waiting, including the later victims, Niels T., his sister Eline T. and Dries D. The woman in the green bikini behaved very aggressively and things quickly escalated. the hand. The woman lashed out at the victims and their children. There was hitting, scratching and biting.”
Massive brawl
The organization of the kayak trips failed to calm the mood. A massive brawl broke out, which suddenly escalated when a man grabbed a large stone. That man was later identified by the French police as Ilias Chair (26) from Edegem, midfielder of the English football club Queens Park Rangers and one of the stars of the Moroccan national football team.
“According to several people involved, Ilias Chair lashed out with the stone at Niels T., who immediately lost consciousness,” said the public prosecutor. “The consequences for Niels T. were dramatic. He suffered a serious skull fracture of two centimeters. He was admitted to Reims hospital in critical condition. He would then have to recover in a Belgian hospital for a long time. He was unable to work as a truck driver for a long time and to this day he still experiences the consequences of that blow, which almost killed him.” [Post edited 19 Jan 12:57]
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| Ilias Chair on 12:59 - Jan 19 with 16286 views | Stainrod |
Jeez. Hope this is untrue |  | | |
| Ilias Chair on 13:06 - Jan 19 with 16186 views | E15Hoop |
F*ck me sideways! Why does this kind of thing always happen to us AND it usually involves our star player??  | | | |
| Ilias Chair on 13:09 - Jan 19 with 16140 views | TheChef |
Back in 2020?
Never a dull moment eh. |  |
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| Ilias Chair on 13:13 - Jan 19 with 16105 views | Juzzie |
Summer of 2020? Wasn't the world in the middle of Covid, lockdowns, no holidays, etc etc |  | | |
| Ilias Chair on 13:17 - Jan 19 with 16034 views | baz_qpr |
Missing a bit
'Lack of guilt insight'
The investigation was carried out by the prosecutor's office in Oudenaarde, because the French police had done nothing more than record the identities of those involved in the fight. After a difficult investigation, Ilias Chair, Nora H. and Jaber C. were identified as the main perpetrators of the facts. “Ilias Chair has been invited for questioning several times, but his lawyers have always said he was not the opportunity to come to Belgium. His activities as a professional football player would make it impossible to be interrogated. A year after the facts, he sent a written statement. This shows a total lack of debt insight,” the prosecutor said.
Master Alen Cilic, of the Souidi & Souidi office, disputed that Ilias Chair was the man who had knocked out the stone. He asked for his client to be acquitted, as the file would not contain sufficient objective evidence. According to Cilic, it was the East-Flemish family that had sought out the confrontation. The defense also suggested that the victims were out for the footballer's money.
'Nonsense,' responded the lawyer of victim Niels T. “We are asking for compensation of 16,000 euros. That's about Mr. Chair's weekly wage. My client almost lost his life. His life has been saved by the surgeons. He has not been able to work for a long time and he rather always experiences adverse consequences from that stroke with that stone.”
The prosecutor found it proven that Chair was the man who had knocked out the stone. Against the football player, the prosecutor claimed two years in prison, two years in prison and a fine of 1600 euros. Against Nora H., who is described as the great stor of the facts, the prosecutor claimed 15 months in prison and a fine of 800 euros. Against Jaber C., who played a limited role, the prosecutor claimed 8 months in prison and a fine of 800 euros. |  | | |
| Ilias Chair on 13:23 - Jan 19 with 15926 views | TomS |
On the bright side, this may deter some clubs from putting in a cheeky bid for him in this transfer window. |  | | |
| Ilias Chair on 13:24 - Jan 19 with 15893 views | Bakes |
If I was chair I’d be paying that €16k compo pretty sharpish |  |
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| Ilias Chair on 13:38 - Jan 19 with 15739 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Ilias Chair on 13:23 - Jan 19 by TomS |
On the bright side, this may deter some clubs from putting in a cheeky bid for him in this transfer window. |
Well this story has taken the fun we were having about Dozzell and changed to a more sinister tone if accurate .
If Chair hit the guy with a rock then its attempted murder as assault with deadly weapon so there is no way he would have been allowed to leave the country IMO
How was it kept out of the limelight until now and what did QPR do about it if anything or were they waiting until the verdict to make statements .
I hope on every level its false but that report is pretty damming |  | | |
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| Ilias Chair on 13:43 - Jan 19 with 15681 views | slmrstid |
If its known in football circles it makes you wonder if that's why no-one has come in for him on a transfer. |  | | |
| Ilias Chair on 13:47 - Jan 19 with 15605 views | BexleyHoop |
| Ilias Chair on 13:38 - Jan 19 by CLAREMAN1995 |
Well this story has taken the fun we were having about Dozzell and changed to a more sinister tone if accurate .
If Chair hit the guy with a rock then its attempted murder as assault with deadly weapon so there is no way he would have been allowed to leave the country IMO
How was it kept out of the limelight until now and what did QPR do about it if anything or were they waiting until the verdict to make statements .
I hope on every level its false but that report is pretty damming |
Might also be the reason why he was omitted from the Morocco squad for AFCON, but suspect more likely his inconsistent form and struggles of our team |  | | |
| Ilias Chair on 13:51 - Jan 19 with 15542 views | LazyFan |
| Ilias Chair on 13:38 - Jan 19 by CLAREMAN1995 |
Well this story has taken the fun we were having about Dozzell and changed to a more sinister tone if accurate .
If Chair hit the guy with a rock then its attempted murder as assault with deadly weapon so there is no way he would have been allowed to leave the country IMO
How was it kept out of the limelight until now and what did QPR do about it if anything or were they waiting until the verdict to make statements .
I hope on every level its false but that report is pretty damming |
It seems they took time to identify him as it was some sort of coach trip, which is often paid for with cash. So, it could have been hard to track down as there were no digital records.
Also, there seems to have been an argument that occurred and got out of hand, which also means proving who did what whilst various lies fly around from all sides will be hard. It will be tough for them to get a conviction, but possible. I suspect this will drag on.
In the meantime, if it continues and is not settled, then yep, no one will come in for Chair as it's too risky and the bad PR. He will stay ours for now, but it also means our asset will depreciate as no one will sign him.
It could also be a shakedown by chancers as it seems the lawyers are claiming.
Time will tell. |  |
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| Ilias Chair on 14:00 - Jan 19 with 15449 views | BrianMcCarthy |
It could also be bullshít. |  |
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| Ilias Chair on 14:00 - Jan 19 with 15431 views | bosh67 |
Well this is terrific news. Could Ilias even reach someone else's skull? |  |
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| Ilias Chair on 14:07 - Jan 19 with 15384 views | Hunterhoop |
| Ilias Chair on 14:00 - Jan 19 by BrianMcCarthy |
It could also be bullshít. |
It could. But it’s quite weird bullsh*t to make up, contains lots of detail, and was put out in a foreign language. So, on balance, I’d say the “news” is genuine. Hopefully the allegations themselves are bullsh*t or hugely exaggerated by some chancers trying it on. The prosecutors don’t seem to think that though. |  | | |
| Ilias Chair on 14:16 - Jan 19 with 15285 views | QPRSteve |
I would have thought that some Brit journo working in the country would have picked it up and ran it in one of the tabloids over here. Not sure I give this much credit. | | | |
| Ilias Chair on 14:20 - Jan 19 with 15239 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Ilias Chair on 14:07 - Jan 19 by Hunterhoop |
It could. But it’s quite weird bullsh*t to make up, contains lots of detail, and was put out in a foreign language. So, on balance, I’d say the “news” is genuine. Hopefully the allegations themselves are bullsh*t or hugely exaggerated by some chancers trying it on. The prosecutors don’t seem to think that though. |
Very odd that he wants just £16k in damages for such allegedly horrific injuries? That stinks for a start doesn't it? |  |
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| Ilias Chair on 14:21 - Jan 19 with 15222 views | NW5Hoop |
It's being reported in *a lot* of Belgian papers. It's plainly a real story. | | | |
| Ilias Chair on 14:30 - Jan 19 with 15121 views | baz_qpr |
| Ilias Chair on 14:20 - Jan 19 by Antti_Heinola |
Very odd that he wants just £16k in damages for such allegedly horrific injuries? That stinks for a start doesn't it? |
And that the French Police did not bother to take it on or arrest anyone
and that its 3/12 years later that they are requesting a charge
and that its not been picked up by any of the tabloids | | | |
| Ilias Chair on 14:35 - Jan 19 with 15062 views | golborne |
| Ilias Chair on 14:21 - Jan 19 by NW5Hoop |
It's being reported in *a lot* of Belgian papers. It's plainly a real story. |
surprised they've heard of him there. b football as a youngster and been here for 5+ years and a low figuring moroccan international.
they have shite press who like to build a mountain out of gravel, too, so they could be trying to fill columns
the 16k damages stinks a bit | | | |
| Ilias Chair on 14:37 - Jan 19 with 15036 views | kensalriser |
How is a Belgian prosecutor claiming jurisdiction over an event that appears to have taken place in France? |  |
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| Ilias Chair on 14:38 - Jan 19 with 15013 views | PhilmyRs |
I mean, if it is legit and seems to be given the story is being published overseas, it would sum up our club. The one, player I would say that could be premier league quality, the one player that would probably command a big transfer fee, is suddenly up for criminal charges which could include a custodial sentence. I really hope its rubbish but that would be so QPR. | | | |
| Ilias Chair on 14:43 - Jan 19 with 14930 views | lassel |
| Ilias Chair on 14:20 - Jan 19 by Antti_Heinola |
Very odd that he wants just £16k in damages for such allegedly horrific injuries? That stinks for a start doesn't it? |
It’s a dodgy translation in fairness - the prosecutor wants 2 years jail and the victim wants 16k compensation on top of the jail term. | | | |
| Ilias Chair on 14:45 - Jan 19 with 14911 views | CateLeBonR |
Are we sure that we’ve got the translation of this correct and he wasn’t standing on the rock to hit the bloke in the face? [Post edited 19 Jan 14:47]
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| Ilias Chair on 14:48 - Jan 19 with 14864 views | Landshark |
| Ilias Chair on 14:16 - Jan 19 by QPRSteve |
I would have thought that some Brit journo working in the country would have picked it up and ran it in one of the tabloids over here. Not sure I give this much credit. |
I wouldn't be surprised if this is going to happen soon. Expect it in a red top any day now. | | | |
| Ilias Chair on 14:53 - Jan 19 with 14791 views | Boston |
Any pics of the green bikini lady? | |
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