| Match thread: Stevenage 15:09 - Mar 4 with 22673 views | Sheffdale |
What no match thread? Rodney gives Dale the lead in 7th minute. |  | | |  |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 11:18 - Mar 5 with 3934 views | frenzied |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 11:07 - Mar 5 by TalkingSutty |
It's a drum that's been banged all season though and with a couple of months left the offers of help have been ignored, not even been acknowledged in some cases. It's not the fans or the Trusts fault. Volunteering to help your fan owned and fan run club was a no brainer but the goalposts have been moved and who knows who will be running the club next season? I would rather wait now because setting up and organising a volunteer army takes time and a lot of commitment from both sides, not just the volunteers. The Chairman and Directors are committed to bringing in outside investors and it will probably be those who will be calling the shots. |
Well said....... | | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 11:28 - Mar 5 with 3881 views | 442Dale |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 11:07 - Mar 5 by TalkingSutty |
It's a drum that's been banged all season though and with a couple of months left the offers of help have been ignored, not even been acknowledged in some cases. It's not the fans or the Trusts fault. Volunteering to help your fan owned and fan run club was a no brainer but the goalposts have been moved and who knows who will be running the club next season? I would rather wait now because setting up and organising a volunteer army takes time and a lot of commitment from both sides, not just the volunteers. The Chairman and Directors are committed to bringing in outside investors and it will probably be those who will be calling the shots. |
Waiting could well be there the best route now. That can be communicated as well, giving us a better idea of what direction we are heading.
As it is, where are we, what are we?
The one constant listening to fans yesterday is uncertainty. At least try and acknowledge and deal with that by communicating on issues raised by supporters. It’s not good enough, that is something that can’t be challenged. |  |
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| Match thread: Stevenage on 11:42 - Mar 5 with 3853 views | TalkingSutty |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 11:28 - Mar 5 by 442Dale |
Waiting could well be there the best route now. That can be communicated as well, giving us a better idea of what direction we are heading.
As it is, where are we, what are we?
The one constant listening to fans yesterday is uncertainty. At least try and acknowledge and deal with that by communicating on issues raised by supporters. It’s not good enough, that is something that can’t be challenged. |
I can't disagree with any of that. You can have qualifications and business skills coming out of your ears but communication skills can often trump all of those. It's all very frustrating, unfortunately some things never change. |  | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 11:52 - Mar 5 with 3814 views | 49thseason |
The match was probably our best performance of the season, the defence did its job and we scored twice , all stiched together by a revelatory performance from Brierley who has clearly benefited from his weeks in Sheffield. So much than Evans was forced to start changing their system approaching 45 minutes bringing on a midfielder to try and negate Brierley. What the Brierley "holiday" in Sheffield does suggest is that he has room for improvement when surrounded by better quality players and coaches, usefull negotiating points you might think.
Off the field the bars seemed quieter, and the stands were noticably less full....worrying but perhaps understandable.
Whilst the debate about the VA rumbles on, one of the aspects that hasn't been debated fully is the potential to tap the knowledge, contacts and persuasive powers of 2000+ die-hards. Yes we might do some painting and weeding but its the expertise thats out in the wild at the moment that might prove significant in the longer term. We are the ones that know the town, its schools, the surrounding areas and businesses at a granular level, used appropriately that information is golden, especially if we are reclaiming the Lotto as we all have employers, neighbours, mates and pals at the pub and at work. |  | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 13:01 - Mar 5 with 3664 views | EllDale |
The lottery canvasser was busy in the Ratcliffe yesterday.
I hope they leave their database when they leave. | | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 13:23 - Mar 5 with 3592 views | D_Alien |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 10:58 - Mar 5 by DaleFan7 |
It was a great performance in the first half yesterday and a resolute one in the second.
I can only echo what other people have said.
Odoh had by far his best 45 mins in a Dale shirt
O'Donnell has proven he is lightyears ahead of Eastwood in terms of ability.
Mullarkey could be the best permanent signing we've made in defence since Dawson.
The biggest difference yesterday for me was Brierley, almost everything went through him and he very rarely gave the ball away, despite spraying it all over the park.
The two decisions that were made with O'Donnell and Brierley could very well have cost us our FL status and they really need to be looked into, especially the latter.
Is it too late for us? Probably, but if we play like we did in the first half yesterday then we'd certainly give ourselves hope, something we've not had for months. |
In terms of Odoh's best performance, i don't think that having Brierley close by in the middle of the park was a coincidence
We've seen how Odoh has a tendency to run down blind alleys, or fail to make a pass. Yesterday, Brierley constantly made himself available in space to receive the ball, and Odoh benefitted no end (or rather - there was some end to his work!)
All he needed to do if faced with players he couldn't get past was look inside and pass to Brierley, then run like hell to potentially receive a perfectly weighted return ball that he could control
Of course, Odoh's played in the same lineup as Brierley before, to lesser effect. Yesterday something was different. 49th made an interesting point a couple of posts ago about the time spent playing alongside better quality players. Despite all the angst about not having him available (and i'm not rehashing that here), he looked to me to have become a better footballer, smarter in his work, even after a short spell in a more cultured level
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| Match thread: Stevenage on 14:31 - Mar 5 with 3397 views | MikeB66 |
Steve Evans post match interview is worth a watch if only to see how the ground staff cope with the Rugby posts? | | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 16:22 - Mar 5 with 3140 views | _Stefan_Kuntz |
Stevenage were the only team in the current top 13 to lose yesterday.
Dale were the only team currently below 10th to win yesterday. | | | |
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| Match thread: Stevenage on 00:34 - Mar 6 with 2741 views | Sandyman |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 14:31 - Mar 5 by MikeB66 |
Steve Evans post match interview is worth a watch if only to see how the ground staff cope with the Rugby posts? |
Interesting to hear Evans praise "Sebastian" the referee, who favoured Stevenage. Rare you hear a manager refer to a ref by forename. They must be mates. Evans has by his own admission moaned about most refs this season. "Sebastian" is one of the worst I've seen. |  | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 08:20 - Mar 6 with 2574 views | judd |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 13:01 - Mar 5 by EllDale |
The lottery canvasser was busy in the Ratcliffe yesterday.
I hope they leave their database when they leave. |
Coincidentally, last week a couple of fans mentioned they had been phoned up and asked to join the lottery. Neither asked for the callers' name, but both thought afterwards how did they get my phone number? |  |
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| Match thread: Stevenage on 08:27 - Mar 6 with 2562 views | Dalenet |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 00:34 - Mar 6 by Sandyman |
Interesting to hear Evans praise "Sebastian" the referee, who favoured Stevenage. Rare you hear a manager refer to a ref by forename. They must be mates. Evans has by his own admission moaned about most refs this season. "Sebastian" is one of the worst I've seen. |
I thought he was pretty decent to be honest. Didn't fall for the acting from either side. And both sides did enough of it. Let the game flow generally and was far better than most refs we have seen this year.
I think Evans has had several apologies from the referees association for bad mistakes this season and the national assessor was at Spotland on Saturday as a result. Evans would have found it hard to call anything serious out from that game. If Quigley spent more time winning the ball rather than trying to wrestle he might be a better player. | | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 08:51 - Mar 6 with 2520 views | Clivert |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 08:20 - Mar 6 by judd |
Coincidentally, last week a couple of fans mentioned they had been phoned up and asked to join the lottery. Neither asked for the callers' name, but both thought afterwards how did they get my phone number? |
I had a call yesterday regarding joining the Lotto, the guy was very pleasant on the phone as we discussed Saturday's performance and he said that the got my number through me being a season ticket holder.
It's good to see the commercial department being proactive like this. |  | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 09:00 - Mar 6 with 2504 views | _Windydale |
I got a call too i didnt fancy giving details over the phone but signed up to the Dale lotto under my.own steam online a few days later. Good to see the club rolling up their sleeves and doing the graft. | | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 09:30 - Mar 6 with 2440 views | judd |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 08:51 - Mar 6 by Clivert |
I had a call yesterday regarding joining the Lotto, the guy was very pleasant on the phone as we discussed Saturday's performance and he said that the got my number through me being a season ticket holder.
It's good to see the commercial department being proactive like this. |
Is it the existing lottery or the new one? | |
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| Match thread: Stevenage on 09:49 - Mar 6 with 2376 views | Bainesy15 |
Haven't seen it mentioned yet (the defence in general has) but I thought EEL had a great game on Saturday. He has been abysmal this season but that was more like the player we thought we were signing to replace O'Connell - If that's how he plays after an interview, get him rolled out every bloody week |  | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 10:49 - Mar 6 with 2273 views | Clivert |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 09:30 - Mar 6 by judd |
Is it the existing lottery or the new one? |
I assumed 'Dale Lotto' as he used the word 'Lotto' and mentioned that it was £1 a week. | | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 12:59 - Mar 6 with 2085 views | Rodingdale |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 00:25 - Mar 5 by D_Alien |
It also depends what's meant by "help"
There's the offer of practical help around the club (the Volunteer Army (VA) not followed up) and perhaps assistance with marketing, both offered free. That'd be a start, but where does that lead?
If there was naivety about the Brierley situation, and it was certainly no worse than that, how would that change? Perhaps the reason we haven't seen the VA followed up is the BoD are concerned it'd open some kind of floodgate to their ability to direct the club, pending inward investment
Apart from the VA, how do you suggest the BoD change their way of operating? It's a valid question, because simply repeating that "they need help" or "they need to listen" becomes repetitive. Listen to whom?
And another question: what did you think about the ref wearing the exact same shade of dayglo yellow top as the Stevenage keeper? [Post edited 5 Mar 2023 0:26]
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Just driven past the ground - I see we are playing Stevenage next. Bet we win 🙄
I’ve given up suggesting ideas to help - no point nothing changes. Hopefully the new owners understand running a business. It may be worth engaging again then. | | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 14:46 - Mar 6 with 1936 views | sxdale |
Just watched the Danny Lloyd interview. I f****** love this guy. You can tell he's absolutely wired after this victory. | | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 15:10 - Mar 6 with 1884 views | DaleiLama |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 14:46 - Mar 6 by sxdale |
Just watched the Danny Lloyd interview. I f****** love this guy. You can tell he's absolutely wired after this victory. |
His attitude, work rate, ability and desire is everything we need to give us a chance in every game, especially if he can drag enough of his team-mates with him. Get Ethan spraying the ball around creating chances, EEL playing like that, SuperMax winning almost everything in the air, Ibbi clicking and finding passes and the vicar mixing it up at the front and who knows what might happen?
My head still says we've got too steep a mountain to climb, but if the players aren't going to throw in the towel, then nor should any fan after Saturday's performance. For now, the heart wins out, but the margins for error are so fine (fine margins again) that too many more slips and it really is over. There's still hope, but as often quoted "it's the hope that kills you". |  |
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| Match thread: Stevenage on 16:26 - Mar 6 with 1754 views | sxdale |
I think what will kill us us Crawley's games in hand | | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 16:29 - Mar 6 with 1738 views | EllDale |
In the final analysis conceding six points to Hartlepool thanks to home and away defeats may be seen to be critical. | | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 17:24 - Mar 6 with 1650 views | Mass_Debater |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 16:29 - Mar 6 by EllDale |
In the final analysis conceding six points to Hartlepool thanks to home and away defeats may be seen to be critical. |
Aye. | | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 17:41 - Mar 6 with 1617 views | _Stefan_Kuntz |
Dale are staying in League Two, you can rely upon it. Crawley now have a worse points-per-match ratio than Hartlepool. They will struggle to get the 3 points from 3 games that is the gap between them and Hartlepool.
The gap between Dale and Hartlepool at 3:00pm last Saturday was 6 points. Now it is 4 points. Hartlepool is the slightly less ugly of these Ugly Sisters. Dale will finish above Hartlepool and Crawley will finish below Hartlepool. | | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 17:43 - Mar 6 with 1603 views | NorthernDale |
We can only do our best, hopefully we can get another 3 points at Grimsby next week and put pressure on the other teams. The games Crawley have in-hand is Grimsby and Donny at home and Sutton away, potentially difficult games. But looking at their fans forum, they are not happy with the manager and team, a bit like us and Hartlepool come to that, crucially I do not think Crawley have not won an away game this season, which may be a factor in the run-in. | | | |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 17:50 - Mar 6 with 1572 views | Dale_4_Life |
| Match thread: Stevenage on 17:43 - Mar 6 by NorthernDale |
We can only do our best, hopefully we can get another 3 points at Grimsby next week and put pressure on the other teams. The games Crawley have in-hand is Grimsby and Donny at home and Sutton away, potentially difficult games. But looking at their fans forum, they are not happy with the manager and team, a bit like us and Hartlepool come to that, crucially I do not think Crawley have not won an away game this season, which may be a factor in the run-in. |
Exactly this..
Saturday v Grimsby is like our cup final... we have to believe and go all out for another 3 points.
Win the above and the next cup final is the following Saturday at home v Swindon.
Points in the bag (3) creates pressure for the teams around us. If we can be in touch by winning one of the next two then Crawley is the biggest lg2 relegation 6 pointer since Rushden and Diamonds away. | | | |
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