| Just when you thought the world couldn’t get any more mad… 10:04 - Jun 15 with 2235 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
I’m not sure what the most surprising aspect of this story is… The fact it made it to court at all? The fact it even made it to the highest court in New York? The fact that 2 people on the court seemingly used their years of legal training and experience in nuanced law to find it within themselves to rule that an elephant is human?
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/14/elephant-person-human-animal-rig
How did we get to this point? Where will it all end? |  | | |  |
| Just when you thought the world couldn’t get any more mad… on 12:01 - Jun 15 with 2177 views | Lorax |
On the day that Happy can walk into court and give his own evidence verbally to the judge, in English (even if it's American English) is the day I will think again.
No one surely can disagree that we need to treat animals better but this court case was ridiculous. | | | |
| Just when you thought the world couldn’t get any more mad… on 12:42 - Jun 15 with 2160 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Just when you thought the world couldn’t get any more mad… on 12:01 - Jun 15 by Lorax |
On the day that Happy can walk into court and give his own evidence verbally to the judge, in English (even if it's American English) is the day I will think again.
No one surely can disagree that we need to treat animals better but this court case was ridiculous. |
It’s obviously a bit of a publicity stunt by the animal activists and good luck to them. But it’s all just a bit silly really isn’t it? And it’s quite worrying that two judges found in favour of the elephant being human. | | | |
| Just when you thought the world couldn’t get any more mad… on 21:56 - Jun 15 with 2074 views | Flashberryjack |
How did we get to this point ? Where will it end.
Animal welfare (sentience) bill
The legislation acknowledges that all vertebrates — animals with a spinal column including mammals, reptiles, amphibians, fish, and birds — are sentient beings. The bill also includes decapod crustaceans and cephalopods, such as octopuses and lobsters.13 Apr 2022. |  |
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| Just when you thought the world couldn’t get any more mad… on 09:30 - Jun 16 with 2016 views | Lorax |
| Just when you thought the world couldn’t get any more mad… on 21:56 - Jun 15 by Flashberryjack |
How did we get to this point ? Where will it end.
Animal welfare (sentience) bill
The legislation acknowledges that all vertebrates — animals with a spinal column including mammals, reptiles, amphibians, fish, and birds — are sentient beings. The bill also includes decapod crustaceans and cephalopods, such as octopuses and lobsters.13 Apr 2022. |
Sentient - able to perceive or feel things, yes animals are sentient and should be treated better. Even those we kill for food should be given a good, pain free (as much as is possible) death.
To be very honest, human rights go to far sometimes, there are points at which people should forfeit some of their human rights. Some crimes are so bad, in my opinion, to justify that. | | | |
| Just when you thought the world couldn’t get any more mad… on 09:37 - Jun 16 with 2009 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Don't mind this one.
I hate zoo's and animals have just as much right to live a free life as we do, we are animals too.
Harming animals for pleasure or profit is something I find hard to stomach. |  |
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| Just when you thought the world couldn’t get any more mad… on 13:52 - Jun 16 with 1946 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Just when you thought the world couldn’t get any more mad… on 09:30 - Jun 16 by Lorax |
Sentient - able to perceive or feel things, yes animals are sentient and should be treated better. Even those we kill for food should be given a good, pain free (as much as is possible) death.
To be very honest, human rights go to far sometimes, there are points at which people should forfeit some of their human rights. Some crimes are so bad, in my opinion, to justify that. |
One of the purposes behind this was to be able to make animal cruelty an either way offence meaning it could go to the crown court for more serious offences and also to try to create a separate offence when police dogs are attacked as they were classed as property and therefore criminal damage,
It’s also to protect other animals other than the normal cats and dogs. |  | | |
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