| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 11:56 - May 1 with 693 views | cocklebreath |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 11:40 - May 1 by Saint_Beaker |
When the dust settles and the truth comes out, you will find a great many of these would have died anyway. No, that is not being cold. It is a fact. As someone said on here the other day, Eddie Large dies of heart disease but was listed as a covid victim. Doctors have orders to list deaths as Covid as much as possible, so even if they are suspected to have had it, the death is listed as died with it. You will also find normal Influenza deaths are down this year on year. This is because a ot of people who have had flu and dies have been assumed to have died of Covid.
Before you ask for evidence of this, the answer is no. I will not go searching again for stuff I have read daily from news sources all over the world. If you look outside your anti Boris Johnson bubble, you will find there are other ways to learn about what is actually going on in the world. |
FFS are you that obnoxious c@nt Hypocondraic from saints web? |  |
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| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 11:57 - May 1 with 691 views | 1885_SFC |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 11:49 - May 1 by Sadoldgit |
We are all going to die someday. The Coronavirus has just sped up the when for some unfortunate people. If you listen to medical experts this is a serious disease. Unlike flu it can be spread by people who aren’t displaying any symptoms which makes it much harder to contain. There is also no evidence yet to show that, if you get it once, you build up immunity. Huge swaths of the planet would not be in lockdown if it wasn’t serious. This has nothing to do with an anti Johnson bubble. This is scientific fact. Just the other day a 14 year old died with no underlying health issues. It really isn’t a good idea to play this down. |
As I mentioned the other day - perhaps you seriously need to seek medical help for your current mental state mate. It's a serious subject and living every single day under a cloud of depression, anxiety and fear will bring nothing but ill health. You don't have to live like this. There is help out there. |  |
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| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 12:00 - May 1 with 679 views | Sadoldgit |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 11:54 - May 1 by Saint_Beaker |
You say "There is also no evidence yet to show that, if you get it once, you build up immunity."
Then you say "This is scientific fact."
Which is it please? Are we certain of any facts yet? To help you out, the answer is no. You can speculate and worry (as they want you to) as much as you like. The facts that are known are that flu deaths are hugely down. Why? People have had their death recorded as Covid, when in fact it was not. Why?
A you say yourself, if indeed people can have it but show no symptons and not show on tests, why is it that you think the government is doing such a bad job in such impossible circumstances?
By the way, can you tell me, did you blame Gordon Brown for the GFC of 2008? [Post edited 1 May 2020 11:54]
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Are you TCM in disguise.
Scientist are still trying to work out the issue about long term immunity.
If people have died of covid and not flu then covid killed them.
The reason I think the government has done a poor job to date is very well documented. and is to do with the slowness to respond and the debacle over testing and PPE. Nothing to do with the virus.
No I didn’t blame Gordon Brown and no one here, including me, has blamed Johnson for covid. |  | | |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 12:00 - May 1 with 684 views | Saint_Beaker |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 11:56 - May 1 by cocklebreath |
FFS are you that obnoxious c@nt Hypocondraic from saints web? |
In your own words, please explain what I have said is in anyway obnoxious? |  | | |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 12:05 - May 1 with 668 views | Sadoldgit |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 11:57 - May 1 by 1885_SFC |
As I mentioned the other day - perhaps you seriously need to seek medical help for your current mental state mate. It's a serious subject and living every single day under a cloud of depression, anxiety and fear will bring nothing but ill health. You don't have to live like this. There is help out there. |
I’m fine but thanks for your concern. | | | |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 12:40 - May 1 with 651 views | cocklebreath |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 12:00 - May 1 by Saint_Beaker |
In your own words, please explain what I have said is in anyway obnoxious? |
It is you ffs this forum is ruined, you and soggy arguing all day | |
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| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 13:11 - May 1 with 629 views | this_charming_man |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 12:40 - May 1 by cocklebreath |
It is you ffs this forum is ruined, you and soggy arguing all day |
Soggy is doing a good job of that by himself. | |
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| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 13:16 - May 1 with 616 views | Saint_Beaker |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 12:40 - May 1 by cocklebreath |
It is you ffs this forum is ruined, you and soggy arguing all day |
Excuse me, I have posted for the first time ever today so how have I ruined this thread? And again, how was anything I said obnoxious? Simple question. | | | |
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| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 13:40 - May 1 with 600 views | grumpy |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 11:36 - May 1 by Occasional_Showers |
In the 14th century the Black Death killed 50 million people or 60 per cent of Europe's entire population.
We lost almost as many on the first day (that’s just one day Grumpy) of the battle of the Somme.
This current pandemic, although devastating if you directly lost a loved one, has been very mild.
Don’t be so melodramatic you silly old fool. |
‘Silly Old Fool’ that’s very brave coming from someone sat behind a keyboard. |  | | |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 13:44 - May 1 with 595 views | this_charming_man |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 12:00 - May 1 by Sadoldgit |
Are you TCM in disguise.
Scientist are still trying to work out the issue about long term immunity.
If people have died of covid and not flu then covid killed them.
The reason I think the government has done a poor job to date is very well documented. and is to do with the slowness to respond and the debacle over testing and PPE. Nothing to do with the virus.
No I didn’t blame Gordon Brown and no one here, including me, has blamed Johnson for covid. |
It's funny how anytime some one posts something that challenges you it's either me in disguise or one of my friends. Sorry i rattle you so much. | |
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| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 13:47 - May 1 with 587 views | Sadoldgit |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 13:44 - May 1 by this_charming_man |
It's funny how anytime some one posts something that challenges you it's either me in disguise or one of my friends. Sorry i rattle you so much. |
You don’t. It’s just odd that someone appears just now who posts like you. | | | |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 13:48 - May 1 with 588 views | DorsetIan |
I am reserving judgement on the identity of Saint_Beaker for the moment but in his first day he has already hit some buttons that others have pushed many times before...
A good dose of whataboutery (Gordon Brown and 2008)
Classic Dune lines...
'left are without question total hypocrites…do as they say, not as they do'
'some of the views here are just mental'
An unhealthy respect for the objectivity of TCM...
'I have noticed that you are one of those who looks at things very objectively while standing up against those who refuse to see things as they are and or answer any questions posed of them at all.'
And the good old 'answer the question, you're not answering the question' routine...
'In your own words, please explain what I have said is in anyway obnoxious?'
'And again, how was anything I said obnoxious? Simple question.'
It would be nice to welcome a new voice and perspective to TUI (or even some new ideas) but a bit of spot the mystery guest is always fun too. | |
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| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 13:53 - May 1 with 589 views | this_charming_man |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 13:48 - May 1 by DorsetIan |
I am reserving judgement on the identity of Saint_Beaker for the moment but in his first day he has already hit some buttons that others have pushed many times before...
A good dose of whataboutery (Gordon Brown and 2008)
Classic Dune lines...
'left are without question total hypocrites…do as they say, not as they do'
'some of the views here are just mental'
An unhealthy respect for the objectivity of TCM...
'I have noticed that you are one of those who looks at things very objectively while standing up against those who refuse to see things as they are and or answer any questions posed of them at all.'
And the good old 'answer the question, you're not answering the question' routine...
'In your own words, please explain what I have said is in anyway obnoxious?'
'And again, how was anything I said obnoxious? Simple question.'
It would be nice to welcome a new voice and perspective to TUI (or even some new ideas) but a bit of spot the mystery guest is always fun too. |
It may surprise you "Ian" but not everyone agrees with you and Soggy. | |
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| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 13:54 - May 1 with 589 views | Saint_Beaker |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 13:48 - May 1 by DorsetIan |
I am reserving judgement on the identity of Saint_Beaker for the moment but in his first day he has already hit some buttons that others have pushed many times before...
A good dose of whataboutery (Gordon Brown and 2008)
Classic Dune lines...
'left are without question total hypocrites…do as they say, not as they do'
'some of the views here are just mental'
An unhealthy respect for the objectivity of TCM...
'I have noticed that you are one of those who looks at things very objectively while standing up against those who refuse to see things as they are and or answer any questions posed of them at all.'
And the good old 'answer the question, you're not answering the question' routine...
'In your own words, please explain what I have said is in anyway obnoxious?'
'And again, how was anything I said obnoxious? Simple question.'
It would be nice to welcome a new voice and perspective to TUI (or even some new ideas) but a bit of spot the mystery guest is always fun too. |
Is it not possible for more than person to hold the same personality traits, and to agree with the same people? Because people differ to you, your paranoia automatically defaults to them having to be one and the same person. Do you really believe in your own superiority of opinion to that degree, that not more than one or two people ould possibly disagree with you? | | | |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 13:57 - May 1 with 586 views | Bicester_North |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 13:48 - May 1 by DorsetIan |
I am reserving judgement on the identity of Saint_Beaker for the moment but in his first day he has already hit some buttons that others have pushed many times before...
A good dose of whataboutery (Gordon Brown and 2008)
Classic Dune lines...
'left are without question total hypocrites…do as they say, not as they do'
'some of the views here are just mental'
An unhealthy respect for the objectivity of TCM...
'I have noticed that you are one of those who looks at things very objectively while standing up against those who refuse to see things as they are and or answer any questions posed of them at all.'
And the good old 'answer the question, you're not answering the question' routine...
'In your own words, please explain what I have said is in anyway obnoxious?'
'And again, how was anything I said obnoxious? Simple question.'
It would be nice to welcome a new voice and perspective to TUI (or even some new ideas) but a bit of spot the mystery guest is always fun too. |
Daily use of the word “whataboutery” ✅ | |
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| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:01 - May 1 with 573 views | DorsetIan |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 13:57 - May 1 by Bicester_North |
Daily use of the word “whataboutery” ✅ |
Do you have a better word? Very happy to use a different one. | |
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| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:08 - May 1 with 570 views | grumpy |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 13:54 - May 1 by Saint_Beaker |
Is it not possible for more than person to hold the same personality traits, and to agree with the same people? Because people differ to you, your paranoia automatically defaults to them having to be one and the same person. Do you really believe in your own superiority of opinion to that degree, that not more than one or two people ould possibly disagree with you? |
You forgot to say Pal at the end.😂 | | | |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:17 - May 1 with 563 views | Saint_Beaker |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:01 - May 1 by DorsetIan |
Do you have a better word? Very happy to use a different one. |
Whataboutery is used by those who have been found wanting in debates. As soon as some one shows you to be of double standards by mentioning other incidents and examples, you revert to calling it whataboutery, as if that placates it and makes it irrelevant. NEWS FLASH. It doesn't. It proves the person to indeed be a hypocrite. | | | |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:24 - May 1 with 556 views | Sadoldgit |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 10:04 - May 1 by Saint_Beaker |
At least a year. To be honest it is not the sort of forum I would normally join as there are far to many argumentitive types on here. But over the last week, some of the comments have just been so clearly illogical and clearly simplistic anti-government rants I thought it might be good to enter the dragon.
Thanks for the welcome sir. I have noticed that you are one of those who looks at things very objectively while standing up against those who refuse to see things as they are and or answer any questions posed of them at all. Like you, I am neither Right or Left leaning, politically. I have in my lifetime voted both Labour and Conservative. I will continue to take each election as it comes. But some on here vote not vote anything but Labour even if Hitler was reborn and in charge of them. |
You mention “argumentative types” and launch straight into an argument. You suck up to TCM. You pretend not to be aligned to any party and give us the whole “balance” guff that TCM expects us to follow, then like him, you spend all your time supporting the government and denigrating those who are critical. Hmmmmmm. If you aren’t TCM then you were separated at birth. [Post edited 1 May 2020 14:38]
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| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:33 - May 1 with 553 views | Occasional_Showers |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:24 - May 1 by Sadoldgit |
You mention “argumentative types” and launch straight into an argument. You suck up to TCM. You pretend not to be aligned to any party and give us the whole “balance” guff that TCM expects us to follow, then like him, you spend all your time supporting the government and denigrating those who are critical. Hmmmmmm. If you aren’t TCM then you were separated at birth. [Post edited 1 May 2020 14:38]
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Don’t you ever get it a rest? |  |
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| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:35 - May 1 with 545 views | Sadoldgit |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:33 - May 1 by Occasional_Showers |
Don’t you ever get it a rest? |
Do you? | | | |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:37 - May 1 with 545 views | Saint_Beaker |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:24 - May 1 by Sadoldgit |
You mention “argumentative types” and launch straight into an argument. You suck up to TCM. You pretend not to be aligned to any party and give us the whole “balance” guff that TCM expects us to follow, then like him, you spend all your time supporting the government and denigrating those who are critical. Hmmmmmm. If you aren’t TCM then you were separated at birth. [Post edited 1 May 2020 14:38]
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So, because I agree with someone, it means I am sucking up to them? You come across as a very childish and insecure sort. | | | |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:40 - May 1 with 539 views | Paninaro83 |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:24 - May 1 by Sadoldgit |
You mention “argumentative types” and launch straight into an argument. You suck up to TCM. You pretend not to be aligned to any party and give us the whole “balance” guff that TCM expects us to follow, then like him, you spend all your time supporting the government and denigrating those who are critical. Hmmmmmm. If you aren’t TCM then you were separated at birth. [Post edited 1 May 2020 14:38]
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We are the most difficult period in many of our lives. There is far too much infighting on this board and society in general, this is why i stopped posting. What we need is unity, We must show compassion, empathy, tolerance, humanity and love. | |
| What a catalyst you turned out to be! |
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| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:41 - May 1 with 533 views | Sadoldgit |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:37 - May 1 by Saint_Beaker |
So, because I agree with someone, it means I am sucking up to them? You come across as a very childish and insecure sort. |
Come on, you are him him aren’t you? That is something else he does. If he is called childish then you can be sure that he will slip that in when he tries to think of a retort. | | | |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:42 - May 1 with 534 views | Occasional_Showers |
| We will turn the tide in 12 weeks on 14:35 - May 1 by Sadoldgit |
Do you? |
How childish. | |
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